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KingAG said:
Yea we turn the ball over anyway, so a team like SJ makes it worse.

I just don’t think it’s a physicality thing. I think it’s we just don’t make good decisions. We have to at least make good decisions. Then I can live with the physical limitations
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This. The stat that we have the most unforced turnovers in the Big East is alarming.
 
I was curious and looked back at the turn over stats against the big out of conference games early in the season, and for the most part turn overs were under control:

BYU: 15
Zona: 5
Illinois: 9
Kansas: 10
Florida: 8
Texas: 12

Does seem to be a key for us.
 
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CTBasketball said:
Our problems are exasperated by St John’s and teams like St John’s. Anyone who presses us will turn us over. Anyone who brings the double on Reed and he doesn’t pass out will turn us over or generate bad shots.

St John’s got away with some grabbing which likely led to less open 3’s. Turnovers were caused by ball pressure.
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Would say the ball pressure was on inbounding, not full court press. If we got the ball in and not in the danger zone (Archer reference intentional), they mostly slacked off.
 
Lafayette said:
Would say the ball pressure was on inbounding, not full court press. If we got the ball in and not in the danger zone (Archer reference intentional), they mostly slacked off.
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I will say from my seat (St John’s basket in 2H), I had a clear view of Dylan Darling bear hugging Silas multiple times to deny the inbound pass.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Now that we know our seed, our first round opponent, and our location, we can look at matchups. One last thing on St. Johns. They are really the type of team you would design to be able to beat this UConn team. Their strengths really play into our weaknesses. They press. They cause live ball turnovers. They are much bigger at the wing position than us. They are a good rebounding team. They have one of the few guys in the country who can match Tarris on both ends. We were able to handle them with ease when we didn't turn the ball over, and limited them to one and done. But we are not a consistent team, especially when it comes to shooting and taking care of the ball.

It appears that Furman is not the kind of team that plays an aggressive style of defense that looks to cause turnovers. If we get to the 2nd Round, the same looks to be true with UCF. UCLA is better at it, but we need to see how healthy they truly are.
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St John's is Rick Pitino's design. We have seen his teams before and I recall a horrific beating against us with the same aggressive style. Louisville was 11-5 against us when he was there. The style reminds me of early JC teams. We need stronger front line rebounding and some speed. Big East will not change refereeing just for us. He took complete blame after the shellacking we gave him in Hartford.
 
CTBasketball said:
Our problems are exasperated by St John’s and teams like St John’s. Anyone who presses us will turn us over. Anyone who brings the double on Reed and he doesn’t pass out will turn us over or generate bad shots.

St John’s got away with some grabbing which likely led to less open 3’s. Turnovers were caused by ball pressure.
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Tarris puts the ball on the floor in the paint and defenders double him to strip the ball. That’s his post move and there is no way to avoid that I guess. What bothers me more are guards and forwards telegraphing their passes and throwing it away unforced.
 
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Dan Hurley has also publicly mentioned how UConn has historically had more success outside the Big East, when the Huskies are facing teams that are more unfamiliar with them. One coach agreed with Hurley, pointing out how difficult it is to prepare for their offensive system.

"It's a huge factor," the coach said. "Their offense is so hard to go against. It's sets on top of sets. You can't walk through their stuff because of how fast they run it. You need four days of good prep, so not only can you see what they're going to run, you see how they're going to run it, with speed and precision."

"Their style, their movement, their physicality, can they get back to being who they are and really double down on their identity?" another coach said of the Huskies' ceiling. "Their best is certainly good enough to be playing deep in the tournament."

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BFieldHusky said:
Wasn't sure where to put this. Duke very likely will not have Ngongba for this weekend according to Scheyer. Without him, TCU or Ohio St. may give them a game.
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They very well could lose second round without him. They really snuck it out against FSU.
 
Do we root for St Johns to keep winning rounds 1, 2, 3 ? Its really 50-50 for me.
 
Marat said:
Do we root for St Johns to keep winning rounds 1, 2, 3 ? Its really 50-50 for me.
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I’ve said this so many times before. How many of you Yankee and Red Sox fans root for the other team? Ever? It does not happen.
As a Yankee fan in Connecticut there are tons of Red Sox fans. In the past 40 years if the Red Sox was eliminated from playoffs I have yet to have one say they will root for the Yankees who made it. Same Division.
It’s basketball so it’s different?
I root for St. John’s, Pitino and their rotten fans to lose.
 
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jibsey said:
I’ve said this so many times before. How many of you Yankee and Red Sox fans root for the other team? Ever? It does not happen.
As a Yankee fan in Connecticut there are tons of Red Sox fans. In the past 40 years if the Red Sox was eliminated from playoffs I have yet to have one say they will root for the Yankees who made it. Same Division.
It’s basketball so it’s different?
I root for St. John’s, Pitino and their rotten fans to lose.
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I’m with you, I can’t imagine rooting for the teams I despise most just cuz they’re in my league. I want them to crash and burn.
 
jibsey said:
I’ve said this so many times before. How many of you Yankee and Red Sox fans root for the other team? Ever? It does not happen.
As a Yankee fan in Connecticut there are tons of Red Sox fans. In the past 40 years if the Red Sox was eliminated from playoffs I have yet to have one say they will root for the Yankees who made it. Same Division.
It’s basketball so it’s different?
I root for St. John’s, Pitino and their rotten fans to lose.
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I've always rooted for the Big East, even when UConn was in the AAC and I always will root for the other Big East teams.

My dad was a division guy. Yankees fan but would root for the Red Sox or whoever else was in the division if the Yankees were knocked out.
 
jibsey said:
I’ve said this so many times before. How many of you Yankee and Red Sox fans root for the other team? Ever? It does not happen.
As a Yankee fan in Connecticut there are tons of Red Sox fans. In the past 40 years if the Red Sox was eliminated from playoffs I have yet to have one say they will root for the Yankees who made it. Same Division.
It’s basketball so it’s different?
I root for St. John’s, Pitino and their rotten fans to lose.
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I think it’s a little different. Other Big East teams doing well is a benefit to UConn. The Red Sox doing well doesn’t benefit the Yankees.
 
jibsey said:
I’ve said this so many times before. How many of you Yankee and Red Sox fans root for the other team? Ever? It does not happen.
As a Yankee fan in Connecticut there are tons of Red Sox fans. In the past 40 years if the Red Sox was eliminated from playoffs I have yet to have one say they will root for the Yankees who made it. Same Division.
It’s basketball so it’s different?
I root for St. John’s, Pitino and their rotten fans to lose.
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I feel like you'd see a lot more Yankees fans rooting for the Red Sox if they had a financial gain coming from them winning more games. Imagine if the Red Sox making the ALCS gave the Yankees money so Cashman and Hal made real additions to the team this offseason instead of running back the same team
 
Marat said:
I was curious and looked back at the turn over stats against the big out of conference games early in the season, and for the most part turn overs were under control:

BYU: 15
Zona: 5
Illinois: 9
Kansas: 10
Florida: 8
Texas: 12

Does seem to be a key for us.
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I say this tongue in cheek but based on this stat it appears the key to winning OOC games is maximizing turnovers since the only loss was Arizona
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
A Yankee fan rooting for the Sox in the playoffs is the craziest thing I think I've ever read on the Internet.
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There are different perspectives based on which side of the rivalry you're on and on age (I've followed the Yankees since Mickey Mantle's last season).

I've only rooted against the Red Sox when they were playing the Yankees or if was late in the season and the Yanks needed a Red Sox loss.

As far as this tournament goes (this applies to any tournament we're in) I intentionally do not root for any specific outcome in a game where our paths may cross. I reject the mentality that someone needs to help us out and I've seen too many cases (in many sports) over the decades where an alleged easier matchup turned into a loss.

We will play whoever is in front of us and win or lose, it will ve entirely on us.

Finally, for decades I wanted Big East schools to only lose tournament games to other Big East schools (the only time I ever won a bracket was 1985 as I had 3/4 of the final four). A dozen years ago, when the original BE officially ended and the schools that kept the conference name made it clear how they felt about us (watch Requiem for the Big East).

Since we returned, we have a business relationship with them, nothing else. We need to worry about ourselves, let the other conference schools do the same.
 
I think comparing the Sox/Yankees rooting in playoffs doesn't hold up as well with UConn/SJU in NCAAs. Maybe its more appropriate for Duke/UNC comparison - a rivalry that's been ongoing for a long time and those fans really hate each other.
 
Besides the tournament credits, which are pretty immaterial once split 11 ways, the incentive for pulling for conference mates is to increase the prestige of the league, which gives you a shot at more bids or better seeds.

It's not like a Yankee fan rooting for the Sox in the world series is going to give the AL east an additional playoff spot the following season.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
There are different perspectives based on which side of the rivalry you're on and on age (I've followed the Yankees since Mickey Mantle's last season).

I've only rooted against the Red Sox when they were playing the Yankees or if was late in the season and the Yanks needed a Red Sox loss.

As far as this tournament goes (this applies to any tournament we're in) I intentionally do not root for any specific outcome in a game where our paths may cross. I reject the mentality that someone needs to help us out and I've seen too many cases (in many sports) over the decades where an alleged easier matchup turned into a loss.

We will play whoever is in front of us and win or lose, it will ve entirely on us.

Finally, for decades I wanted Big East schools to only lose tournament games to other Big East schools (the only time I ever won a bracket was 1985 as I had 3/4 of the final four). A dozen years ago, when the original BE officially ended and the schools that kept the conference name made it clear how they felt about us (watch Requiem for the Big East).

Since we returned, we have a business relationship with them, nothing else. We need to worry about ourselves, let the other conference schools do the same.
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That's what happened in the Elite 8 in 2006 for that game that never existed. UConn in 2006 only had 1 ball handler so a team that could pressure them some and force turnovers like Washington was tough match up. UConn had 26 turnovers that game and honestly was very lucky to have beaten Washington. Everyone thought after that the Elite 8 opponent would be easier because they didn't force turnovers and that UConn's size would be too much. Instead that other team scored inside at will and had a PPP of 1.20 (that's high). What am I talking about? That Elite 8 game never happened.
 
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