Maryland to Big10 Getting Some Legs

[nelsonmuntz]

No quite the opposite. If Georgia Tech leaves the ACC could stay at 12 leaving us in the Big East.

You think Georgia Tech is going to the Big 10?

 

[ZooCougar]

You think Georgia Tech is going to the Big 10?

They are pushing for it.

 

[specialisthusky]

They are pushing for it.

best case scenario b1g jumps at possibility of 16 they like and ru gtech uconn umd all join b1g. highly doubtful though

 

[whaler11]

Dan when you say things like BYU to the PAC 12 do you realize that schools like BYU and California are complete polar opposites? It's like asking Limbaugh and Maddow to start a radio show together. BYU will have to decide at what level they want to play football. If they decide they want to join a conference and have access it won't be the Pac-12.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Dan when you say things like BYU to the PAC 12 do you realize that schools like BYU and California are complete polar opposites? It's like asking Limbaugh and Maddow to start a radio show together. BYU will have to decide at what level they want to play football. If they decide they want to join a conference and have access it won't be the Pac-12.

There is a huge Mormon population in southern California. BYU's problems reside with its administration. It is their call how relevant they want their athletic program to be. In speaking with Alums, they will tolerate two years like this before they will start getting pretty upset. I don't see how BYU recruits as an independent.

 

[Dann]

Dan when you say things like BYU to the PAC 12 do you realize that schools like BYU and California are complete polar opposites? It's like asking Limbaugh and Maddow to start a radio show together. BYU will have to decide at what level they want to play football. If they decide they want to join a conference and have access it won't be the Pac-12.

its not a great marriage i know, but its whats best for both. they will figure it out eventually. do vandy and mis st make sense together? how about tcu and iowa st?

 

[whaler11]

its not a great marriage i know, but its whats best for both. they will figure it out eventually. do vandy and mis st make sense together? how about tcu and iowa st?

Ignore it if you like - it's not happening ever.

 

[whaler11]

There is a huge Mormon population in southern California. BYU's problems reside with its administration. It is their call how relevant they want their athletic program to be. In speaking with Alums, they will tolerate two years like this before they will start getting pretty upset. I don't see how BYU recruits as an independent.

For someone who gets into drag out brawls in the cesspool this should seem obvious to you. You are talking about schools like California and Stanford bringing BYU to their table allowing them a huge financial windfall. Cats and dogs have more in common than Berkeley and BYU.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

For someone who gets into drag out brawls in the cesspool this should seem obvious to you. You are talking about schools like California and Stanford bringing BYU to their table allowing them a huge financial windfall. Cats and dogs have more in common than Berkeley and BYU.

I have a good friend who is a BYU booster. You can imagine his politics, and you just have to look at the cesspool to know mine. Sports are sports. Utah and BYU are very similar demographically. Utah is just a stupider, less needy, version of BYU. The state does not have a lot of diversity.

 

[upstater]

UConn is going to get the call.

The ACC would be crazy not to do it ASAP.

They risk way too much with potential threats from the SEC, Big12 and Big10. Although the chances are pretty low than anyone other than FSU is leaving, does the ACC risk losing say VT and FSU? Does it risk the Big10 (for some crazy reason) taking UConn?

If FSU and VT go, bringing them to 11 football schools, and UConn is gone, then the ACC is hurting. They are almost forced to take UConn now.

 

[upstater]

I have a good friend who is a BYU booster. You can imagine his politics, and you just have to look at the cesspool to know mine. Sports are sports. Utah and BYU are very similar demographically. Utah is just a stupider, less needy, version of BYU. The state does not have a lot of diversity.

That's hard to believe, what you say about Utah. I don't believe it.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I find it difficult to believe he has a good friend.

 

[whaler11]

I have a good friend who is a BYU booster. You can imagine his politics, and you just have to look at the cesspool to know mine. Sports are sports. Utah and BYU are very similar demographically. Utah is just a stupider, less needy, version of BYU. The state does not have a lot of diversity.

Right but Utah doesn't wear it on their sleeve like BYU does. If I'm wrong in the end that's fine. BYU will end up in the Big 12. Why would the Pac 12 double down on Utah and deal with those politics at same time.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

GT is a southern school, the B1G is not and does not want to be a southern league. MD or VA would be pushing the limits, GA would be too far.

 

[whaler11]

UConn is going to get the call.

The ACC would be crazy not to do it ASAP.

They risk way too much with potential threats from the SEC, Big12 and Big10. Although the chances are pretty low than anyone other than FSU is leaving, does the ACC risk losing say VT and FSU? Does it risk the Big10 (for some crazy reason) taking UConn?

If FSU and VT go, bringing them to 11 football schools, and UConn is gone, then the ACC is hurting. They are almost forced to take UConn now.

UConn doesn't protect the ACC from anything. It's not like VPI and FSU stay because UConn joined and it's not like UConn wouldn't join if they left.

 

[Adios]

GT is a southern school, the B1G is not and does not want to be a southern league. MD or VA would be pushing the limits, GA would be too far.

If what you are saying is true, we should have a good shot at ending up in the B1G. Texas has been mentioned before as a B1G expansion candidate.

 

[upstater]

UConn doesn't protect the ACC from anything. It's not like VPI and FSU stay because UConn joined and it's not like UConn wouldn't join if they left.

I never said FSU would stay. I said if and when another couple teams leave, the ACC is under the magic number of 12. If the Big 10 has any other intentions on the East Coast and goes after UConn, this would effectively checkmate the ACC completely.

 

[businesslawyer]

Dan when you say things like BYU to the PAC 12 do you realize that schools like BYU and California are complete polar opposites? It's like asking Limbaugh and Maddow to start a radio show together. BYU will have to decide at what level they want to play football. If they decide they want to join a conference and have access it won't be the Pac-12.

Limbaugh and Maddow would happily do a radio show together. If the money is good enough.

Unfortunately, whether the money is good enough seems to be the only question being asked in realignment.

 

[ctchamps]

I never said FSU would stay. I said if and when another couple teams leave, the ACC is under the magic number of 12. If the Big 10 has any other intentions on the East Coast and goes after UConn, this would effectively checkmate the ACC completely.

And if I were the B10 I would consider this option.

 

[whaler11]

Limbaugh and Maddow would happily do a radio show together. If the money is good enough.

Unfortunately, whether the money is good enough seems to be the only question being asked in realignment.

True, the difference here being that Maddow already has the show and the money and would have to allow Limbaugh to come share.

 

[gars44]

UConn doesn't protect the ACC from anything. It's not like VPI and FSU stay because UConn joined and it's not like UConn wouldn't join if they left.

Whaler, I love you man, I love your energy. To even try to explain this to anyone that doesn't get this, I love your energy. I mean it.

 

[whaler11]

Whaler, I love you man, I love your energy. To even try to explain this to anyone that doesn't get this, I love your energy. I mean it.

Thanks? I guess I may have somewhat missed his point but still I still don't see any potential situation where the Big 10 checkmates the ACC using UConn as a pawn. The Big 10 is not worried about the ACC... they are better off if the ACC survives and the SEC doesn't further consolidate their power.

 

[BlueMAB]

True, the difference here being that Maddow already has the show and the money and would have to allow Limbaugh to come share.

You're kidding right?

 

[upstater]

Thanks? I guess I may have somewhat missed his point but still I still don't see any potential situation where the Big 10 checkmates the ACC using UConn as a pawn. The Big 10 is not worried about the ACC... they are better off if the ACC survives and the SEC doesn't further consolidate their power.

I never said the Big10 would use UConn as a pawn. The only way the Big10 takes UConn is if they want them. And as I said in my original post, that's unlikely. But if it happens, the ACC is up shit'screek. That's precisely why the ACC invites them.

 

[whaler11]

You're kidding right?

Not really. The liberal schools have a huge television contract and don't really need the conservative school. The Pac-12 already has Utah and based on BYU's contract they aren't worth nearly what the average Pac-12 school is getting paid. Why would Berkeley and Stanford let BYU into their sandbox?

 

[whaler11]

I never said the Big10 would use UConn as a pawn. The only way the Big10 takes UConn is if they want them. And as I said in my original post, that's unlikely. But if it happens, the ACC is up ****'screek. That's precisely why the ACC invites them.

So you think the ACC will invite UConn because if the Big 10 gets UConn the ACC is screwed? I'm pretty sure based on the fact the ACC has ignored UConn to this point they aren't worried. I'm also pretty sure that the Big 10 has zero interest in UConn, so the sentiment seems pointless.

 

[BlueMAB]

Not really. The liberal schools have a huge television contract and don't really need the conservative school. The Pac-12 already has Utah and based on BYU's contract they aren't worth nearly what the average Pac-12 school is getting paid. Why would Berkeley and Stanford let BYU into their sandbox?

I meant kidding about Maddow and Limbaugh. Rush has a much larger audience and is worth a shyteload more money.

I agree about BYU, but your analogy is backwards

 

[whaler11]

I meant kidding about Maddow and Limbaugh. Rush has a much larger audience and is worth a shyteload more money.

I agree about BYU, but your analogy is backwards

Im just calling Cal Maddow and BYU Rush based on their political views. Yes, in the media in this case Rush has the bigger dollars.

 

[HuskyHawk]

There is a 0% chance Louisville gets an ACC invite - it's Big 12 or bust for them, just like it's ACC or bust for UConn.

This is from Wetzel's recent column (I hate the , but he's pretty connected):


Either the ACC stays at 14 for basketball and 13 for football for the time being, or they invite UConn to even out the number of football schools (in which case, they might invite a bball only like Georgetown as well).

It is absolutely obvious. We will have an ACC invite in 5 minutes or less from the announcement. First there are no other viable ACC programs. Second, the core ACC schools wanted us all along to help reclaim their basketball dominance. Third, UConn becomes more critical territorially with RU in the B1G. Cuse, plus UConn plus ND makes the ACC tops in NY. RU, plus PSU plus UConn tips the balance to the B1G.

Once the Big East collapses, GTown might get an invite as well, due to DC market lost from UMD. If this happens the western schools won't joint. It will dissolve.

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[upstater]

Not really. The liberal schools have a huge television contract and don't really need the conservative school. The Pac-12 already has Utah and based on BYU's contract they aren't worth nearly what the average Pac-12 school is getting paid. Why would Berkeley and Stanford let BYU into their sandbox?

So you think the ACC will invite UConn because if the Big 10 gets UConn the ACC is screwed? I'm pretty sure based on the fact the ACC has ignored UConn to this point they aren't worried. I'm also pretty sure that the Big 10 has zero interest in UConn, so the sentiment seems pointless.

The ACC wasn't worried until Maryland left. Now it's worried. It should be.