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It's obvious these articles were coming after MD's dismal loss to BC.
Ouch!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...e-gone-worse/2011/10/30/gIQAO7a2VM_story.html
Ouch! again
Randy Edsall now has a rebuilding project at Maryland
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...-at-maryland/2011/10/28/gIQAAUTgPM_story.html

While trying to recruit the types of players he wants, Edsall also must attempt to improve his image with fans, who haven’t seen much to like yet.
Ouch! Ouch!
'Maryland falls to BC: ‘Ultimately, I am the guy who is responsible for this,’ Randy Edsall says
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...y-edsall-says/2011/10/29/gIQAqB7cTM_blog.html
 
Schaudenfreude is fun.

“The frustration I have is what button, what word can I say to make some of these things turn around.”

Execution!
 
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/te...ryland-preps-for-uva-20111031,0,3419975.story

Honeymoon for Edsall long over as Maryland preps for Virginia


"Labor Day seems a lifetime ago for Maryland football. The Terps opened Randy Edsall’s coaching tenure that evening with a 32-24 victory over Miami. Byrd Stadium was a near sellout, ESPN’s cameras were on hand, and Twitter overloaded with buzz about the team’s unique (charitable description) uniforms.

Maryland hasn’t beaten a Division I-A team since. Fans are staying away in droves, and Washington-area media are riding Edsall for everything from his quarterback choice to grooming code."
 
Call me crazy, but I would be perfectly happy seeing Edsall getting fired, realizing how good he had it at UConn, and coming back to our program. I don't see Coach PP here very long, and Edsall obviously was doing something right at UConn. Maryland hates him, cause they want instant success. We know that Edsall can build a program and we have no choice but to be patient given our lack of football history, and I'm pretty sure most people would be happy to have him back. UConn is his dream job, he just didn't know it. With a new AD, and new Prez, Edsall might think about it. Never say never.
 
No. As a huge apologista, I'll say never. He left voluntarily. You can't assume he'll have any success here and not leave voluntarily again. The bridge has been burned.
 
businesslawyer said:
No. As a huge apologista, I'll say never. He left voluntarily. You can't assume he'll have any success here and not leave voluntarily again. The bridge has been burned.
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I was a big Edsall supporter, and agree with this.

This realignment nonsense, coupled with a lousy start, had people saying some pretty silly things.
 
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Edsall couldn't have picked a worse place for the next step in his career. Media unfriendly approach can work in college FB, but not smack dab between two major media markets where he can't control the message. Much more interest in Terps in Balt-Wash metroplex than BC has in Boston area.
Think RE deserves kudos for program building and he wouldn' t have gone 0-3 vs. Vandy, Iowa State and W. Mich, but it was time for a change here. Just like Md., it was screwed up. Need an President/AD w/contacts who can find the next James Franklin.
 
UConnJRod said:
Call me crazy, but I would be perfectly happy seeing Edsall getting fired, realizing how good he had it at UConn, and coming back to our program. I don't see Coach PP here very long, and Edsall obviously was doing something right at UConn. Maryland hates him, cause they want instant success. We know that Edsall can build a program and we have no choice but to be patient given our lack of football history, and I'm pretty sure most people would be happy to have him back. UConn is his dream job, he just didn't know it. With a new AD, and new Prez, Edsall might think about it. Never say never.
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You are SURE MOST people would be happy to have him back? Wow, so what he's doing at Maryland is just some big out of body experience and he is really Knute Bryant, just hasn't had a chance at ND or Alabama yet to show his real stuff! Boy, let me sign up for the "bring Randy back" band wagon.
 
A big NEVER to Randy. But let's get someone who will breath some excitement into this program.
 
ruskin said:
Think RE deserves kudos for program building and he wouldn' t have gone 0-3 vs. Vandy, Iowa State and W. Mich.
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Yeah, he woulda. Why do you think he left like thief in the night?
 
Waquoit said:
Yeah, he woulda. Why do you think he left like thief in the night?
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Point taken. But one thing RE would NOT have done is pass on 3rd-and-9 at midfield with a 1-TD lead in middle of 4th quarter on road.
 
Husky68 said:
You are SURE MOST people would be happy to have him back? Wow, so what he's doing at Maryland is just some big out of body experience and he is really Knute Bryant, just hasn't had a chance at ND or Alabama yet to show his real stuff! Boy, let me sign up for the "bring Randy back" band wagon.
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Well, enjoy watching our ancient, outdated coach play the QB guessing game and losing to teams we should be beating. And good luck bringing in anyone remotely up and coming to a team in a league that is crumbling. Given the circumstances, find me a different coach (who would WANT to come to UConn at this point), that could jump in right away and have contacts in place already to start recruiting. I agree with others when they said he burned his bridge, but I think given the right situation, and assuming he turned this thing around fairly quickly, the majority of fans would welcome him back. That being said, I know it wont happen, so I don't need 50 post telling me I'm dreaming. In any case, I wouldn't mind seeing Hank get a shot. He knows the team more than anyone and you are NOT going to find anybody with a name to take the job. Give him a shot, we have nothing to lose. I'm already over the PP era and no, I'm not being short minded and reactionary. I can 100% guarantee you, Coach PP is NOT the right coach for UConn.
 
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Looks like some of those in MD are on to him. Check out this comment discussing a classic Edsall technique:

"Using "ultimately" as a modifier is a cop-out. It's as if he saying that it's not really his fault, but since he is the coach he will take ultimate responsibility. It's like he doesn't want the actual blame laid at his feet, but he wants credit for taking responsibility. Cowardly garbage. "
 
UConn's next FB coach will not be Randy Edsall.
 
Edsall thought the grass was greener.

He is a fool. And he is proving that he wasn't really a very good coach.
 
Also I think Edsall needs to practice better eye discipline. That and he should dial back his 1950s beaver cleaver eagle scout act.
 
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UConnJRod said:
...Given the circumstances, find me a different coach (who would WANT to come to UConn at this point), ...I'm already over the PP era and no, I'm not being short minded and reactionary. I can 100% guarantee you, Coach PP is NOT the right coach for UConn.
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You're arguing a point not raised. Did not say coach P the guy, that's you arguing with yourself. I'm saying Edsall is NOT the guy. Didn't want to be here for several years, got his dream job, why would we want him if he failed at a middling ACC school.

I would suspect that coach P who hadn't coached in college for 6 or 7 years has better recruitng contacts than Edsall had after 11 years as a college coach at the same school the whole time.

So to ask your question to you, are you giving me Edsall as "...coach(who would WANT to come to Uconn at this point)." He couldn't get out of town fast enough, what would make him want to come back - (I'll give you a hint - failure at Maryland, no other job offers); so the best you think Uconn can do is getting back a coach who couldn't wait to get out of town, failed at his dream school and then wants back in at Uconn - WOW. Saying Edsall has recruiting contacts is like saying you're the tallest midget, he got out recruited by Temple.

I'm not a coach P guy, but hearing you agree with that and somewhere in the same bunch of brain cells you come up with "the taking Edsall back idea" as a good thing and that most fans would agree, makes me think I should reconsider my coach P evaluation.
 
The funny thing about Edsall is how themes built up over 10 years could be funneled into a stretch of 8 crappy games. How many times did he pull this crap at UConn (see quote below)?

"He should just stop talking about what could be better at Maryland, and utilize the available talent in the final five games."
 
Palatine said:
Edsall thought the grass was greener.

He is a fool. And he is proving that he wasn't really a very good coach.
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How is that, exactly?

Because he is not doing well at Maryland means he wasn't a good coach at UCONN? Care to explain that one? Oof.
 
It will be interesting to see how many defect after the season at Maryland. I also expect a greater number than usual to leave UCONN.
 
Our league and UConn's on life support and we are discussing RE?

He was a perfect fit for us. MD not so much. He made his bed and then sharted in it. Sucks to be him.

Unless he's gonna pay my hotel bill for the next week I could give a rats ass about him.
 
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huskysupporter said:
How is that, exactly?

Because he is not doing well at Maryland means he wasn't a good coach at UCONN? Care to explain that one? Oof.
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Wasn't a VERY good coach. You fire a conference coach of the year winner who wasn't boinking the AD's wife and you better bring in a VERY good coach. If Edsall flames out at Maryland, not VERY good coach. As he said, "I didn't get stupid all of a sudden"; so I'll take him at his word, he's as good at Maryland as he was at Uconn. Maybe at Uconn the 50% league win record was good enough, don't think will be at Maryland. A VERY good coach would pull a Beamer of VT at Uconn or Maryland.
 
Edsall did a good job a UConn, but Edsall only brought one coach with him to Maryland which is a huge red flag. In college football, and even pro football, this does not happen. One of his greatest assets at UConn was coaching continuity as all of the coaches were on the same page.
 
sportsart said:
Our league and UConn's on life support and we are discussing RE?

He was a perfect fit for us. MD not so much. He made his bed and then sharted in it. Sucks to be him.

Unless he's gonna pay my hotel bill for the next week I could give a rats ass about him.
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Let's say your girlfriend dumps you. You're single and lonely and nobody really seems to have much interest you.

But that girl who dumped you? Turns out her new boyfriend gave her herpes.

You tellin' me you don't get a little joy outta that? ;)
 
Irish Loop said:
Let's say your girlfriend dumps you. You're single and lonely and nobody really seems to have much interest you.

But that girl who dumped you? Turns out her new boyfriend gave her herpes.

You tellin' me you don't get a little joy outta that? ;)
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A man after my own heart!
 
huskysupporter said:
It will be interesting to see how many defect after the season at Maryland. I also expect a greater number than usual to leave UCONN.
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If only Danny O'Brien knew someone we had on staff as a coach with connections to UMd .....
 
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Edsall served his purpose here and brought us as far as he was going to, but it was time for a change. PP unfortunately was not the right choice. Randy to come back? God no!
 
i think people are a little too quick to dump on P. so far let's look at what we know about him. his recruiting in unquestionably better than what we previously had. obviously we won't know if the kids are good for 3 years, but he's winning head to head battles against other BCS schools, including a lot of big name ones. he's also gotten kids from some really good programs that Edsall was never able to crack. not bad considering he's been here less than a year. Edsall brought in the occasional kid with another late BCS offer, but for the most part we were losing head to head battles against schools like Temple, and always Rutgers (did he ever get a common target to choose us?).

on the field his results have been mediocre, but i wouldn't say horrible. WVU and Pitt aside, all of the games we lost were close, and in reality the WVU game was very close for the most part. when you consider that Bonislawski would probably be the hands down starter at QB this year, i really don't know what else people expected. obviously we hoped for better, but it's unrealistic to expect a team with no QB to win the conference, especially considering Edsall left our RB cupboard pretty bare (i still don't understand how he never did better attracting RBs). having no QB is one thing when you have 2000 yards of RBs on the team, but we don't this year. that being said i like McCombs a lot, but he's not Todman last year, or Brown 3 years ago, or Dixon/Todman 2 years ago.
 
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anyone that's ready to bail on him already either has ridiculous expectations or is incredibly impatient IMO. the idea that we should fire any coach after one year is downright moronic. besides having to pay his contract, we'll never attract a decent coach if they have to worry about being fired after one year of not having total, instant success.

the 1800 character limit is ridiculous. could someone either change this or at least explain to me why it's necessary?
 
mattp said:
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anyone that's ready to bail on him already either has ridiculous expectations or is incredibly impatient IMO. the idea that we should fire any coach after one year is downright moronic. besides having to pay his contract, we'll never attract a decent coach if they have to worry about being fired after one year of not having total, instant success.

the 1800 character limit is ridiculous. could someone either change this or at least explain to me why it's necessary?
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You don't find any indication of bad coaching for someone who has coached for 40 years? Disorganized substitutions, defense not set against hurry up, LB's covering wide receivers, no one covering TE's/RB on pass patterns, sticking with JMc at QB, only using one RB. This team has played very poorly, answer is it it "addressable" by further practice. No reason to give up over 400 yards passing to so many teams, just bad coaching. After the 1st time Pitt receiver ran underneath open should have addressed.

There is no way this offense can play against pressure, especially as the field gets smaller into the red zone. Defenders can sell out to cover short passes and WR's 1st move and rushers have no need to protect against a moving QB; only screens and draws will keep them honest and harder to do on shorter field. I put this on coach selecting a QB that can't actually do it (which is initially ok, Cassell at USC couldn't beat out Leinart but the latter actually played ok) but more importantly, then in spite of all the proof to the contrary, sticks with him.
 
not all of those mistakes lay at P's feet. some lay at Don Brown's or DeLeone's. we knew going into this season that there would be a lot of changes defensively and we were warned repeatedly by MD fans that there was a rough transition year, but then by year 2 they were in love with him. i think a lot of the coverage mistakes could be attributed to that.

i would like to see McCummings more, but we've been told repeatedly that he doesn't know the full playbook, and if that's the case he shouldn't play more. you say playing JMac is a fault of P's, but we've seen nothing to lead us to believe we have a better option, other than the limited plays of McCummings, and if he really only knows those plays, what else can you do with him? and say what you can about McEntee, he's done about as well as any of our other QBs since DanO
 
something else to consider is because of being hired so late PP kept all of RE staff that he could in order to retain the recruiting class. so this year not only does he have someone elses players he has someone elses coaches teaching his system.

-We dont have a BCS qb and for the most part we dont have BCS caliber WRs how can you expect to have a BCS caliber offense when we cant threat to pass? He is only playing 1 rb because that is all he has. If you didnt follow UCONN this offseason we Jordan Todman and Robbie Frey left. DJ is too hurt to play JJL hasnt looked good and if you saw Foxx on kickoff return he cant follow his blocking. I played a little rb in high school maybe I should play, I might be our next best option.

-On defense its plain and simple our Lbs arent athletic enough they cant cover the pass and actually neither can our safeties. Ive said this before but the coaches have to run their own system despite having someone elses players. You need to find out which players can play your system so the ones that cant can hit the road and you can bring in someone that can. I know this isnt popular with many posters here but this is what it is going to take to be successful as a program down the road.
 
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Husky68 said:
You don't find any indication of bad coaching for someone who has coached for 40 years? Disorganized substitutions, defense not set against hurry up, LB's covering wide receivers, no one covering TE's/RB on pass patterns, sticking with JMc at QB, only using one RB. This team has played very poorly, answer is it it "addressable" by further practice. No reason to give up over 400 yards passing to so many teams, just bad coaching. After the 1st time Pitt receiver ran underneath open should have addressed.

There is no way this offense can play against pressure, especially as the field gets smaller into the red zone. Defenders can sell out to cover short passes and WR's 1st move and rushers have no need to protect against a moving QB; only screens and draws will keep them honest and harder to do on shorter field. I put this on coach selecting a QB that can't actually do it (which is initially ok, Cassell at USC couldn't beat out Leinart but the latter actually played ok) but more importantly, then in spite of all the proof to the contrary, sticks with him.
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Gee - this guy must fit into that unrealistic expecations group. Installing a completely 100% different defensive system and philosophy as well as not one, not two, but THREE different offenses - in 8 months, with a bunch of college age guys taht can only practice a certain number of hours a week with their coaches, and you know - at UCONN at least, actually have to honor the STUDENT part of pbeing a student athlete as well as being a football player?

I bet this character writing this critique has a trophy case full of championships - NOT.
 
sportsart said:
Our league and UConn's on life support and we are discussing RE?
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Some of us can handle more than one topic at a time, art. Don't be jealous. The brain is a muscle, you can develop it with practice.
 
Seems like Maryland fans don't understand the difference between criticizing and coach and wanting fired either. That's something 99% of the Apologistas could never grasp either.
 
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ZooCougar said:
Seems like Maryland fans don't understand the difference between criticizing and coach and wanting fired either. That's something 99% of the Apologistas could never grasp either.
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i don't remember any "apologists" ever saying you can't criticize the coach, in fact most of us had plenty of gripes with Edsall. personally i wish he blitzed more on 3rd down and wish he had more success recruiting head to head against BCS (and even non-BCS) schools. the difference was we realized he did a good job overall, and were realistic about what we expected him to accomplish. the bashers thought we should fire him so we could hire Urban Meyer or some other ridiculous candidate
 
I predict 4 years from now Coach P will be a successful head coach at UConn and UConn will be in the top 25. Edsall, if he is still at Maryland, will be coaching a team that is about as good as UConn was last year - not in the top 25. Edsall will never coach UConn again.

UConnJRod said:
Call me crazy, but I would be perfectly happy seeing Edsall getting fired, realizing how good he had it at UConn, and coming back to our program. I don't see Coach PP here very long, and Edsall obviously was doing something right at UConn. Maryland hates him, cause they want instant success. We know that Edsall can build a program and we have no choice but to be patient given our lack of football history, and I'm pretty sure most people would be happy to have him back. UConn is his dream job, he just didn't know it. With a new AD, and new Prez, Edsall might think about it. Never say never.
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