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Offhegoes said:
IMO Dan Hurley is NOT on the hot seat. Not close either. You guys remember where this program was when he started? You remember our record the year he took over? I do - we were 14-18. We are now trying to figure out if we are a 3 or 4 seed going into the NCAA Tournament and also have a great class coming in with good pieces already on roster. Yeah we lost, but it was by 2 to the number 6 team in the country and our best pure scorer going 2-11. We lost a toss up game, it happens. We have the pieces to make a nice run. We are capable.
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We were also capable the last two years. Potential doesn’t mean squat if it’s not fulfilled.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Okay, who recruits the players, creates and instills the philosophy, picks the coaching staff, calls the plays, picks the subbing pattern, calls the timeouts, and gets paid the big bucks?

It’s year 5. He’s gotten every player he wanted.
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And he has the team back to being a top ten team nationally, who just lost to another top ten team by 2 points. I don't see the problem right now. I swear some of ya'll make it seem like we just had a Syracuse or Georgetown type year.

Hurley needs to keep at it and keep improving but he's pretty much where he should be in year 5.

I have no problem with the philosophy, coaching staff, play calls, or sub patterns.

Recruiting is a toss up. He basically has gotten every player we could hope for as freshmen and transfers, except a good freshman PG. Not sure why that is, but we shall see next year, Castle and Ball are the first two I have high hopes for at that position as freshmen. The ones before were career backups at best.

There are maybe a handful of coaches better right now than Hurley and I'm not sure any are available or a better fit for UConn.
 
AD Dave Benedict would be my hero if he announced we were leaving the BE for another conference. It's a 2 way street and UCONN has been hamstung the entire season. I'm talking even the MAC, that's how tired I am of the BE. Good riddance.
 
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CardiacAndre7 said:
I’m going to preface this with saying I fully expect this team to at least make the S16.

But 3 years of BE semis exits and 2 first round exits isn’t the improvement that you’re referring to. The regular season has been great and it gets you to the dance, but you have to perform there. And we haven’t yet. If we are a 3/4 seed and get knocked out in round 1, we can’t really say there has been substantial improvement.
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A 3 seed is improvement. That’s not really debatable that’s a fact.

If we were in a situation that this was expected to be our best case team and next year a rebuilding year you could argue it’s not improving fast enough. But that’s not the situation. This was expected to be a pretty good team with next year being a year to get really excited about.

I would be massively disappointed with another first round exit. But changing coaches isn’t about “I’m mad so let’s blame someone.” Changing coaches is about the program not being capable of getting to where it needs to be. And there’s no way to argue that’s where we’re at when the team keeps getting better and we keep bringing in better recruits
 
SportsFan88 said:
I just feel like the way they got up into him and how physical they were with him threw off his game entirely, Hawk is an elite jump shooter and all his shots tonight were way off, even the banked in 3 in the beginning of the game, they got to him physically and I hate to admit it but mentally
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He's hyped as a great shooter and even hyped by some as the best shooter in the country yet he's 37% from three on the season and 35% from three on the Big East season. He has a super quick release, his form is beautiful, he's high volume and he makes some tough shots but it's starting to feel like he may be a bit overrated as a shooter and his offensive game is so dependent on that one skill.
 
Didn’t read all of this. Ultimately Hawkins was 2-11 and that’s the game. Hopefully he will bounce back.
 
superjohn said:
He's hyped as a great shooter and even hyped by some as the best shooter in the country yet he's 37% from three on the season and 35% from three on the Big East season. He has a super quick release, his form is beautiful, he's high volume and he makes some tough shots but it's starting to feel like he may be a bit overrated as a shooter and his offensive game is so dependent on that one skill.
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I’d argue Karaban is actually our best most consistent shooter. Hawkins is definitely more of a rhythm shooter than a consistent shooter.
 
superjohn said:
He's hyped as a great shooter and even hyped by some as the best shooter in the country yet he's 37% from three on the season and 35% from three on the Big East this season. He has a super quick release, his form is beautiful, he's high volume and he makes some tough shots but it's starting to feel like he may be a bit overrated as a shooter and his offensive game is so dependent on that one skill.
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I agree with this, he’s more of a great shooting prospect than a great college shooter.

Very good player for us but I don’t think hes ready to be “the guy” for us.
 
gsmooth said:
High ceiling but low floor. I guess that’s why us fans are unsettled because there is so much variation
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What constitutes a low floor?

UConn has lost to a top 5 or 6 team by 2 points.

If anything, UConn has a high floor but a fluctuating ceiling. A low floor is like saying you expect them to struggle in the first round. This UConn team shouldn't be upset in the first round and should make it to the sweet sixteen. After that, it's a toss up. That's a high floor. There is also enough of a possibility of UConn winning it all to say the ceiling is high, but they could also be bounced in the sweet sixteen.

Last year's team had a low floor and a mid-tier ceiling once Hawkins got injured, because that killed their depth and they were too flawed in terms of personnel.

I will be upset if and only if they don't at least make the sweet sixteen (unless the seeding is much worse than expected).


upstater said:
Are you really impressed by them? I liked Xavier this year. Not seeing it with Marquette.
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I said after the first Marquette game they were the most impressive BE team I had seen UConn play, I stand by that. They beat UConn twice without getting some absurd foul disparity. No other team can say that. They have flaws but there are no great teams this year in college ball. Lots of pundits are underrating Marquette, even now.

They play good enough defense, and play great offense. They have some center issues but make up for that by attacking the paint with Kolek.

UConn is also the only team that beat them by more than 5 points all year.
 
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CardiacAndre7 said:
I’m going to preface this with saying I fully expect this team to at least make the S16.

But 3 years of BE semis exits and 2 first round exits isn’t the improvement that you’re referring to. The regular season has been great and it gets you to the dance, but you have to perform there. And we haven’t yet. If we are a 3/4 seed and get knocked out in round 1, we can’t really say there has been substantial improvement.
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True
Lots of Hurley apologists
A program like UConn is measured by what happens in March. Unless mediocrity and just being middle of the pack is now the acceptable standard at UConn. 5 yrs and no big wins in March . It's time for a visit to the 2nd weekend and sweet 16 in NCAA tourney or his belongs firmly on the hot seat for next season
 
kemba said:
I agree with this, he’s more of a great shooting prospect than a great college shooter.

Very good player for us but I don’t think hes ready to be “the guy” for us.
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Yup. It’s interesting what kind of pro prospect a guy is, but I’m much more concerned about how good a college player a guy is or will be. Hawk is a big time NBA player. But let’s be honest — he’s a good college player, but not a great one. The improvement by having him in the lineup as opposed to Martin is, frankly, marginal.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Yup. It’s interesting what kind of pro prospect a guy is, but I’m much more concerned about how good a college player a guy is or will be. Hawk is a big time NBA player. But let’s be honest — he’s a good college player, but not a great one. The improvement by having him in the lineup as opposed to Martin is, frankly, marginal.
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He doesn't look like he'll be a big time NBA player to me. He could possibly become one if he develops but he has some serious flaws with his physical profile and game right now. NBA can be an unforgiving place when you have a lot of things to figure out.
 
Viet Vet said:
Have you ever, EVER, seen a double screen by UConn? Let alone a properly set single screen? I double down on the one-on-one, playground description of our offense.

“Playground” offense works if you have a distributing, penetrating point guard: Shabazz, Kemba.

We don’t.
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Is that the wine talking?
 
That Guy said:
Our ceiling in the tournament will be S16. Can't have F4 ambitions when Hawkins always has the chance to completely no show against some team. All our star championship guards balled out when it mattered most including Rip, BG, Kemba, Shabazz, Boat.
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Lack of a go to scorer will be our undoing
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Guy it was a 2 point margin and UConn had the ball with a chance to win on the last possession. Implying that it was some kind of comfortable Marquette win is just more Boneyard silliness.
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Where on earth was that implied in my post? We’re a very good team and Marquette is too. They beat us and I am impressed with how they played. I never said it was one sided or a comfortable win lmao.
 
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The play of AJax and Newton left A LOT to be desired... Clingan did his best imitation of Wilt by not being able to sink an FT... And on, and on...we all know the rest...make those missed FTs and they win the game...
 
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