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Marisa Moseley heading to Wisconsin

oldude said:
Some BY’ers consider Marisa’s move to WI a risk. I don’t. Jumping to a moribund program at a P5 conference has enormous upside. WI is a school that has had significant success in men’s sports and is looking to kickstart women’s sports as well. As some have suggested, the low bar for WBB at WI will allow Marisa the time to slowly build the program back to respectability.

I have to imagine that Marisa talked to Geno about the opportunity at WI. Who better to talk to about reviving a mediocre WBB program and turning it into a successful one. Assuming that Marisa gets the job done at WI she can either remain in Madison as the HC for a very long time, or perhaps have the opportunity to move on to a former powerhouse program looking to restore their program.

Off the top of my head, I can think of 2 programs in Knoxville and South Bend that just might be looking for a new coach in 3-4 years.......
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Vowelguy said:
I disagree that expectations are low. Last 2 coaches got 5 years and then were dumped. And again Lisa Stone got fired after going to the postseason 5 straight years and two straight years finishing third in conference.

AD (and former FB coach) Barry Alvarez don’t play around.
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Old Dude: Friday greetings from northern NJ. Please note the red highlights. Barry Alvarez, as Vowelguy pointed out, does not mess around with his sports programs. And he's not kickstarting his women's programs:
  • They just won their 6th National Championship in Hockey (beating Northeastern)
  • Their vollyeball team is 11-0, playing in the B1G, perhaps the toughest V-ball league going (sorry Pac-12)
  • Women's Soccer is always tough and produced one of the U.S. National Team's superstars, Rose LaVelle.
  • Their Cross Country teams are always excellent, having won 15 B1G titles.

Alvarez hired Tsipsis to coach women's b-ball and Steve Granato to coach the men's hockey team. Granato's team is one of the favorites in this year's NCAA team. And Alvarez pulled the trigger a year earlier than most thought he would on JT. And Alvarez had ties to JT's former HD, one Muffet McGraw (Alvarez was defensive coordinator for Lou Holtz before taking the UW job).

Also, I'm a tad suprised to see the crack at the end of your comment. I actually like the signs of life that Kellie Harper is showing in Knoxville. I think that program is going to look more like a P5 Missouri State than Holly's Volunteers soon. We'll see it works. Niele wants to change the kind of players that come to ND, from those suited to the Princeton offense to those who can play multiple positions and attack (think Westbeld, Sonia Citron), orchestrated by a strong PG (think Ivey, think Miles). Let's give it another year before slotting Marisa into the role. Besides, you don't think AD Jack Swarbrick doesn't know where Megan Duffy is? Wiscosnin.
 
victor64 said:
Losing does effect the resume. Correct me if I am wrong but the previous coaches that lost have not gotten better jobs. I am happy for her because she is terrific but the hill is steep in front of her.
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I believe Bobbi Kelsey is an assistant coach for the WNBA Sparks, you tell me if that is a better job than coaching Wisconsin and Tsipis was relieved of his duties at Wisconsin on March 9th. As I mentioned in a previous post, IMO this is a win-win for Marisa, Wisconsin are already dead last in the BIG 10.
 
stamfordhusky said:
That is a much worse job.
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Kelsey is a joke. Another reason to hate the Sparks.
Recently there was a news tweet with a Geno quote about something. She picked out that he said "guys", as in "our guys did a good job with ...", and actually responded "I thought they were women."
And when someone called her out on the stupidity of that, she responded with something like "was I talking to you" (even though she was on a PUBLIC forum).

If a regular fan wants to get into a semantic battle, fine. But for a failed coach to take on Geno over the use of "guys"?!? If that's her judgment, I'm not surprised she was a HC disaster.

I wonder if she calls it 'woman to woman" defense too.
 
Charliebball said:
the new transfer rules make any school that can sell itself to good transfers quickly respectable........
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the only "new" transfer rules of which I am aware apply only to this year. However with the flood of available graduate transfers created by 5th year eligibility, Marissa could immediately improve WI prospects. However Wisconsin carried 15 players on this year's roster, one was a graduate transfer and rest were Fr, So, or Jr. They also have signed 3 recruits for next year.
 
CajunHusky said:
the only "new" transfer rules of which I am aware apply only to this year. However with the flood of available graduate transfers created by 5th year eligibility, Marissa could immediately improve WI prospects. However Wisconsin carried 15 players on this year's roster, one was a graduate transfer and rest were Fr, So, or Jr. They also have signed 3 recruits for next year.
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They have a projected roster of 17?! I assume there are some walk-ons?
 
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As to what will happen, the Magic 8 Ball says "time will tell."
 
Big transfer pool + Ability to sell playing time + B1G tv exposure + Winning Coach with multiple rings = Perfect storm for Marisa!

Go Marisa! Go!

It's my opinion that many seniors and juniors who are not yet on the WNBA radar but quite good players will be looking for a place where they can get exposure and develop their talents. Especially those players who think they are in the wrong situation for a myriad of reasons. I think some pretty good players will gravitate towards Marisa in hopes of a hoop future. I don't know what her scholarship situation is but if she has 3 or four it could be a Coach of the Year scenario.
 
Dillon77 said:
Old Dude: Friday greetings from northern NJ. Please note the red highlights. Barry Alvarez, as Vowelguy pointed out, does not mess around with his sports programs. And he's not kickstarting his women's programs:
  • They just won their 6th National Championship in Hockey (beating Northeastern)
  • Their vollyeball team is 11-0, playing in the B1G, perhaps the toughest V-ball league going (sorry Pac-12)
  • Women's Soccer is always tough and produced one of the U.S. National Team's superstars, Rose LaVelle.
  • Their Cross Country teams are always excellent, having won 15 B1G titles.

Alvarez hired Tsipsis to coach women's b-ball and Steve Granato to coach the men's hockey team. Granato's team is one of the favorites in this year's NCAA team. And Alvarez pulled the trigger a year earlier than most thought he would on JT. And Alvarez had ties to JT's former HD, one Muffet McGraw (Alvarez was defensive coordinator for Lou Holtz before taking the UW job).

Also, I'm a tad suprised to see the crack at the end of your comment. I actually like the signs of life that Kellie Harper is showing in Knoxville. I think that program is going to look more like a P5 Missouri State than Holly's Volunteers soon. We'll see it works. Niele wants to change the kind of players that come to ND, from those suited to the Princeton offense to those who can play multiple positions and attack (think Westbeld, Sonia Citron), orchestrated by a strong PG (think Ivey, think Miles). Let's give it another year before slotting Marisa into the role. Besides, you don't think AD Jack Swarbrick doesn't know where Megan Duffy is? Wiscosnin.
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I had known that WI Women’s hockey is a powerhouse and appreciate you educating me on the other successful women’s programs in Madison. I probably should have confined my “kickstart” reference to WBB.

As for my snarky comment about coaching changes in Knoxville or South Bend, all I can say is that old habits die hard. I actually believe both Harper & Ivey are good coaches. The challenge for both is recruiting.

As I’ve said in other posts, it only takes losing 1 or 2 top recruits each year to relegate a program to mediocrity. Right now there are worrisome recruiting trends for both the LV’s as well as the Irish.
 
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CDBadgerfan said:
When Bobbi was here I asked her about Stanford. She basically laughed at me. Like she said you have to build up the confidence of players and get a beat down is not how it is done. Having said that, going up against cupcake schools in non-conference just to build up the record is not the way to do it either. Have recruits come in with UConn playing here will turn recruits off in my opinion. If I was a recruit at a school and had a visit when that school would be getting beat by 50 or 60 points would not impress me at all and would turn me off.
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When UConn plays somewhere new it usually sets an attendance record where they're playing at. What Wisconsin has done for one is not filled up the arena
 
oldude said:
I had known that WI Women’s hockey is a powerhouse and appreciate you educating me on the other successful women’s programs in Madison. I probably should have confined my “kickstart” reference to WBB.

As for my snarky comment about coaching changes in Knoxville or South Bend, all I can say is that old habits die hard. I actually believe both Harper & Ivey are good coaches. The challenge for both is recruiting.

As I’ve said in other posts, it only takes losing 1 or 2 top recruits each year to relegate a program to mediocrity. Right now there are worrisome recruiting trends for both the LV’s as well as the Irish.
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My hometown -- Montclair, NJ -- sends a lot of kids to Wisconsin (Michigan, too), so I'm always hearing about their programs from parents.
And a few of my Domer friends have children there, as well. Alvarez is highly thought of; in part, because he takes no prisoners.

Recruiting wise on the ND front, Niele got who she wanted in 2021 but 2022 has been a washout so far. Let's hope things pick up. Tennessee's Harper picked up a nice 6'2" wing from the Jersey coast -- Justine Pissot -- who, as mentioned, is more of a Missouri State-type get, with mid- and long-range jumpers. Plus, Jersey kid in Knoxville?

Ousted Badger Coach Jonathan Tsipsis did very well at George Washington, in part because he got one superstar (Jonquel Jones) and a good supporting cast. A lot of that recruiting and development was done by now head coaches Megan Duffy (Marquette) and Diane Richardson (Towson State). When he was in Wisconsin, JT knew he had to reach local and regional high school and local AAU coaches and even hired Wisc. natives to help him with the task. Just seemed to be a slow haul hard get. I sensed he was in trouble when guard Niya Beverly transferred out to Penn State.

She'll have the support of Alvarez to do what she needs to do. He wants to win. But this won't be easy...look over at Minnesota.
 
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Dillon77 said:
Old Dude: Friday greetings from northern NJ. Please note the red highlights. Barry Alvarez, as Vowelguy pointed out, does not mess around with his sports programs. And he's not kickstarting his women's programs:
  • They just won their 6th National Championship in Hockey (beating Northeastern)
  • Their vollyeball team is 11-0, playing in the B1G, perhaps the toughest V-ball league going (sorry Pac-12)
  • Women's Soccer is always tough and produced one of the U.S. National Team's superstars, Rose LaVelle.
  • Their Cross Country teams are always excellent, having won 15 B1G titles.

Alvarez hired Tsipsis to coach women's b-ball and Steve Granato to coach the men's hockey team. Granato's team is one of the favorites in this year's NCAA team. And Alvarez pulled the trigger a year earlier than most thought he would on JT. And Alvarez had ties to JT's former HD, one Muffet McGraw (Alvarez was defensive coordinator for Lou Holtz before taking the UW job).

Also, I'm a tad suprised to see the crack at the end of your comment. I actually like the signs of life that Kellie Harper is showing in Knoxville. I think that program is going to look more like a P5 Missouri State than Holly's Volunteers soon. We'll see it works. Niele wants to change the kind of players that come to ND, from those suited to the Princeton offense to those who can play multiple positions and attack (think Westbeld, Sonia Citron), orchestrated by a strong PG (think Ivey, think Miles). Let's give it another year before slotting Marisa into the role. Besides,
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Dillon77 said:
Old Dude: Friday greetings from northern NJ. Please note the red highlights. Barry Alvarez, as Vowelguy pointed out, does not mess around with his sports programs. And he's not kickstarting his women's programs:
  • They just won their 6th National Championship in Hockey (beating Northeastern)
  • Their vollyeball team is 11-0, playing in the B1G, perhaps the toughest V-ball league going (sorry Pac-12)
  • Women's Soccer is always tough and produced one of the U.S. National Team's superstars, Rose LaVelle.
  • Their Cross Country teams are always excellent, having won 15 B1G titles.

Alvarez hired Tsipsis to coach women's b-ball and Steve Granato to coach the men's hockey team. Granato's team is one of the favorites in this year's NCAA team. And Alvarez pulled the trigger a year earlier than most thought he would on JT. And Alvarez had ties to JT's former HD, one Muffet McGraw (Alvarez was defensive coordinator for Lou Holtz before taking the UW job).

Also, I'm a tad suprised to see the crack at the end of your comment. I actually like the signs of life that Kellie Harper is showing in Knoxville. I think that program is going to look more like a P5 Missouri State than Holly's Volunteers soon. We'll see it works. Niele wants to change the kind of players that come to ND, from those suited to the Princeton offense to those who can play multiple positions and attack (think Westbeld, Sonia Citron), orchestrated by a strong PG (think Ivey, think Miles). Let's give it another year before slotting Marisa into the role. Besides, you don't think AD Jack Swarbrick doesn't know where Megan Duffy is? Wiscosnin.
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Not knowing the political side of things at ND, I'm surprised if she wasn't considered seriously for the job. IMO, if Duffy ever gets hold of some elite talent-look out. I think that girl can coach.
 
Dillon77 said:
My hometown -- Montclair, NJ -- sends a lot of kids to Wisconsin (Michigan, too), so I'm always hearing about their programs from parents.
And a few of my Domer friends have children there, as well. Alvarez is highly thought out; in part, because he takes no prisoners.

Recruiting wise, Niele got who she wanted in 2021 but 2022 has been a washout so far. Let's hope things pick up. Harper picked up a nice wing from the Jersey coast -- Justine Pissot -- who, as mentioned, is more of a Missouri State-type get, with mid- and long-range jumpers. Plus, Jersey kid in Knoxville?

Jonathan Tsipsis did very well at George Washington, in part because he got one superstar (Jonquel Jones). A lot of that recruiting and development was done by now head coaches Megan Duffy (Marquette) and Diane Richardson (Towson State). When he was in Wisconsin, he knew he had to reach high school and local AAU coaches and even hired Wisc. natives to help him the task. Just seemed to be a hard get. I sensed he was in trouble when guard Niya Beverly transferred out to Penn State.

She'll have the support of Alvarez to do what she needs to do. He wants to win. But this won't be easy...look over at Minnesota.
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Wasn’t Azzi on ND’s 2021 Wish List?
 
CajunHusky said:
the only "new" transfer rules of which I am aware apply only to this year. However with the flood of available graduate transfers created by 5th year eligibility, Marissa could immediately improve WI prospects. However Wisconsin carried 15 players on this year's roster, one was a graduate transfer and rest were Fr, So, or Jr. They also have signed 3 recruits for next year.
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Pretty sure the 'no sit out year' for transfers is a done deal for all future years, which makes transferring a lot more attractive to kids who don't want to wait a year.

I believe we do not yet know how that will play out, but the 2021 transfer protal is already pretty full, and a lot of teams are still playing/had there last game recently. Teams are going to get crowded with some players spending an extra year - BYU for example has all of its seniors returning for another run. That could cause more transfers as well, and that will be an ongoing issue for three more years - the college careers for this year's freshman that still have 4 years of eligibility. The WNBA draft likely talent is unlikely to extend to their allowed 5 years, but that is only the top maybe 25 or less US college players.

And the feeling seems to be that some teams taking transfers are causing their recruited players to transfer - that is certainly the feeling at ND's McGraws Bench with three young and highly touted recruits in the transfer portal and three former transfers from ND now leading teams in the S16
 
UcMiami said:
Pretty sure the 'no sit out year' for transfers is a done deal for all future years, which makes transferring a lot more attractive to kids who don't want to wait a year.

I believe we do not yet know how that will play out, but the 2021 transfer protal is already pretty full, and a lot of teams are still playing/had there last game recently. Teams are going to get crowded with some players spending an extra year - BYU for example has all of its seniors returning for another run. That could cause more transfers as well, and that will be an ongoing issue for three more years - the college careers for this year's freshman that still have 4 years of eligibility. The WNBA draft likely talent is unlikely to extend to their allowed 5 years, but that is only the top maybe 25 or less US college players.

And the feeling seems to be that some teams taking transfers are causing their recruited players to transfer - that is certainly the feeling at ND's McGraws Bench with three young and highly touted recruits in the transfer portal and three former transfers from ND now leading teams in the S16
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While I agree that the no sit out transfer rule along with the extra year of eligibility for anyone who wants it will make WBB unpredictable for the next few years, at least as far as BYU is concerned, having returning 5th year seniors is not all that unusual as BYU encourages their students to spend a year abroad on a mission during their time at BYU.
 
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oldude said:
While I agree that the no sit out transfer rule along with the extra year of eligibility for anyone who wants it will make WBB unpredictable for the next few years, at least as far as BYU is concerned, having returning 5th year seniors is not all that unusual as BYU encourages their students to spend a year abroad on a mission during their time at BYU.
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But 5th year eligibility is what these folks are using I understand. And BYU athletes are often not Mormons.
 
oldude said:
Wasn’t Azzi on ND’s 2021 Wish List?
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I'd say that's a "yeah" and then a "nah." Early on (well, that could be 8th grade with Azzi...), the answer is most certainly "yes." But the green breadcrumbs by Azzi's house and school, started disappearing at some point. We kept her on our recruiting report in case there was divine intervention, but that had as much chance as the Knicks winning the NBA East. 😅👎
 
Woof 101 said:
Not sure you realize it and no attack but many here consider 40 as young. ;)
"Life does really begin at 40, up until then you are just doing research." -- Carl Jung....
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No I get it. I was thinking of the age at which coaches like Pat, Geno, Kim, etc. took over their programs and were much younger. Without having hard data, I would guess probably most get their first big program opportunity around Marisa's age +/- a few years. If anything she probably spent a few years too many at UConn.
 
HuskylnSC said:
It's the ideal interim step. If she doesn't improve the program it won't tarnish her resume because other good coaches have tried to make them better and if she does improve it she gets a serious consideration for a better opportunity. It's always a good idea to take a job where the only option is to move up because any results shine brighter. Two or three years of improving the won lost and she is going for the big bucks
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Yup, timing is everything. DO NOT follow a legend. Follow the person who followed the legend. Or, as in MM's case, follow the parade of those who fell short.
 
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DEpup said:
Yay!!! Don't count her out as a potential successor!!!!
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If Geno ever quits ? I can see Geno's brain in a jar wired to a monitor and speakers still coaching 50 years from now. 😅
 
The Boilermakers hired Marian University head coach Katie Gearlds on Thursday as an associate head coach for next season. Gearlds will succeed current head coach Sharon Versyp at season’s end and take the reigns of the program for the 2022-2023 season.

Wisconsin announced Friday the hiring of Boston University head coach and former UConn assistant coach Marisa Moseley. Moseley will attempt to right the ship in Madison after Wisconsin struck out with its last two coaching picks.

 
I just looked through the Wisconsin roster. They have a lot of players, and not a lot of talent - their best player has entered the transfer portal Imani Lewis who was ranked by prospect nation and blue star around 40. According to ESPN they have a verbal from a three star recruit for 2021, and their 2020 class of three was headlined by the 93 ranked 4 star recruit Halle Douglass. They also have a 2022 verbal from HG 48 ranked Jordana Cordo.

It is going to take some work.

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It was sort of an eye opener - fans of Uconn and SC and ND and Baylor and really most of the teams playing this weekend are living and dying on the news and decisions being broadcast by top recruits on whatever platform they choose. Looking at the Wisconsin roster is a different world. And you expect that with mid major teams, but your forget that it is true for P5 teams at the bottom of their conferences as well.
 
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HopJim, does Marisa seem like the type of person who would jump at the first big contract? How long was she at UConn before she left for her alma mater? Marisa was at UConn from 2009-2018. Hardly someone who's just going to go after the first big contract. As bad as Wisconsin has been, the program can only go up.
 
HopJim said:
Big risk. Hope she didn't jump at the first big contract without considering all factors. Likely much of this hire was based on her UConn experience since recruiting for BU and Patriot League much different than Wisconsin. She likely has few contacts in Mid West, a relatively thin women's basketball recruiting territory. Great school in beautiful setting but no history supporting women's basketball. If she can turn this school around, she can name her price anywhere.
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The lake is beautiful; I’ll give you that. The campus? Not so much.
 
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