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Margo Lady Vol Season Approaching

The Lady Vols do, in fact, play great at times. This is, in my opinion, in spite of, and not because of Holly. They really do still successfully recruit great athletes, a reality that ought to offer encouragement to those of us who dread Geno's inevitable and eventual retirement. But, for those of us who are blessedly spoiled by watching Geno-coached teams, watching the Lady Vols play, as I occasionally do, is almost shocking for the utter absence of offensive flow, the reliance on a schoolyard, half-court game that is foreign to us. Great players can sometimes shine in such a system, but will offer no consistency, especially against better defenses.
 
CocoHusky said:
TN had some big loses too and I'm not sure you are supporting your argument for Holly vs. bad team chemistry. Inconsistent play points more to coaching that it does to bad chemistry as being the main issue.
TN 2016-17 Bad Losses:
Penn State
Va Tech
Ole Miss
Auburn
Georgia
Texas A&M
Alabama (Twice)
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I don't think that chemistry will be a problem with this team. I also think having better play at point guard helps. I think we will see that this year. I don't think this team should have any of those type loses.
 
I find it interesting that Mercedes Russell started for USA basketball last summer over Kalani Brown.
 
meyers7 said:
Yes. And usually it is not in a teams best interest to be so dependent on Freshmen. Especially to run the team.
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So true. Plus, some of the freshmen have stated they came to Tenn to return them back to the top. Quite an arrogant attitude before playing even one D1 game. I've wondered if recruits that come to play for Holly do so because they know she is a weak coach and so assume they will be able to do as they please to "rescue" the program. To me, this portends the same toxic scenario that existed when the three players left for greener pastures.

I just don't see improvement over last year. Highly ranked freshmen will not offset the loss of highly ranked experienced players. The only smart thing Tenn had done in the last 10 years was to cancel the series with UCONN. That has saved them from many additional losses.
 
Txhoopsalot said:
I find it interesting that Mercedes Russell started for USA basketball last summer over Kalani Brown.
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Last time they played against each other. Mercedes 22 points Brown 2 points.
 
How long before HS recruits aren't even aware of Pat Summit or Tennessee's glory days? It has to be coming eventually doesn't it? I'm continually amazed that they continue to haul in so much talent, despite being so far from what they used to be.
 
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TN plays a soft schedule to begin their season, but..........the rubber will meet the road for the Lady Vols beginning Dec 10 against the Texas Longhorns. They come west for 2 games against Long Beach St. & Stanford. LBSU is one of the schools I suggested UConn could play when they come west to play Stanford or UCLA.

Sun, Dec 10 vs Texas 3:00 PM ET
Sun, Dec 17 @ LBSU 5:00 PM ET
Thu, Dec 21 @ Stanford TBD
Sun, Dec 31 @ Kentucky 12:00 PM ET
 
trb123 said:
Margo should have a street named after her in Knoxville.
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Yeah, they could name it "Margo Lane". Not to be confused with another more infamous Margo Lane circa 1937.

Margo Lane is a fictional character in The Shadow stories. Margo is a friend and companion to that young dashing man about town Lamont Cranston, and an agent for his alter ego, The Shadow, in the wealthy set. Her first appearance was in 1937 in the Shadow radio drama. Wikipedia
 
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stwainfan said:
Here are some of my thoughts. I think Russell will have a big year. Nared will also have a good year. I think that with Westbrook and Hayes. That the point guard position will be better. I think Green will help inside. I don't think this team will have any drama.
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You shouldn't. Most of the "Drama Queens" are gone. Russell and Nared should provide the senior leadership needed to get and keep this team focused, and headed in the right direction.
 
Scoop said:
You shouldn't. Most of the "Drama Queens" are gone. Russell and Nared should provide the senior leadership needed to get and keep this team focused, and headed in the right direction.
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Yes leadership is needed. Its going to be important for this team. Russell and Nared will have good years.
 
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stwainfan said:
Mercedes last year had her best year so far. She lead the SEC in double doubles. I think the USA experience this summer will help also.
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Yes I know.... I would expect her to be dominant, not just a roster filler..... I saw at least a dozen games last year.... and i think she played out of her mind in one of them.... (ND I think) and the rest very average...

Just my opinion..... It is not that i think she is a bad player.... just that I believe she will not lead her team to the promised land.... several times last year I saw her make lazy plays... i.e. not boxing out... vs lesser teams...

Even though she was #1 overall recruit in country.... she does not compare with some of the greats who have passed through Knoxville IMO
 
Bestiarius said:
So true. Plus, some of the freshmen have stated they came to Tenn to return them back to the top. Quite an arrogant attitude before playing even one D1 game. I've wondered if recruits that come to play for Holly do so because they know she is a weak coach and so assume they will be able to do as they please to "rescue" the program. To me, this portends the same toxic scenario that existed when the three players left for greener pastures.

I just don't see improvement over last year. Highly ranked freshmen will not offset the loss of highly ranked experienced players. The only smart thing Tenn had done in the last 10 years was to cancel the series with UCONN. That has saved them from many additional losses.
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Bestiarius.... BINGO!!! I agree with your assessment in 1st paragraph.... freshmen who do not necessarily want to be pushed or challenged.... or the same sentiment extended from their parents.... DeShields, Massengale are 2 examples.... banners at TBA , retired numbers, and good fan base adds up to an intoxication that is attractive to some.

I do not think the players have respect for the coaching staff .... i e head coach , as everything filters to there.....

But at U Tennessee, it has become more realistic.... Holly's first year was the "grind for 9" .... and no such battle cry since.... now from what i see and reading Volnation, making it to the Elite 8 is a successful year.
 
CocoHusky said:
TN had some big loses too and I'm not sure you are supporting your argument for Holly vs. bad team chemistry. Inconsistent play points more to coaching that it does to bad chemistry as being the main issue.
TN 2016-17 Bad Losses:
Penn State
Va Tech
Ole Miss
Auburn
Georgia
Texas A&M
Alabama (Twice)
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I totally agree. IMO too much is being made about their bad chemistry. Tennessee may have better team chemistry this year but there’s no way that I think their a better team without Diamond and Cooper.
 
Margo drives me crazy, and for me it's a really short drive as I'm already crazy! (which you all can attest to)
Her perspective on her LadyVols is hysterical screaming after unbelievable TN losses to horrid opponents!
Nothing changes in Knoxville, new players, same inept coaching staff will lead to a mediocre season!
As long as Holly Warlick and that staff are together they will find a way to lose. Once the new players see the clueless coaching staff at work they will mutiny and try to take over the "ship"!
My great wish is that Holly sign a LIFETIME CONTRACT with TN!
 
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swimswam said:
I totally agree. IMO too much is being made about their bad chemistry. Tennessee may have better team chemistry this year but there’s no way that I think their a better team without Diamond and Cooper.
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Do they make the tournament? If they do, how far do they go? Third round?
 
Txhoopsalot said:
I find it interesting that Mercedes Russell started for USA basketball last summer over Kalani Brown.
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I'm wondering how attractive she'll be in the WNBA draft come April? First round?
 
Scoop said:
Do they make the tournament? If they do, how far do they go? Third round?
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Yes Tennessee has never missed a tournament. I will say at least S16. Depends on the health of team and how freshman do.
 
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stwainfan said:
Last time they played against each other. Mercedes 22 points Brown 2 points.
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You brought this up in another thread/different forum . I believe in other you suggested Russell outplayed Kalani and managed to also mention points scored for both players. In both cases you fail to mention who wins the game, based on your post(s) one would assume Tenn wins.

My reply at that time wasn't so much Russell outplayed Kalani but it was her 4 fouls that kept her on bench. Kalani played only 11 minutes in that game...to Russell's 35 minutes. However, didn't Baylor win the game 88 to 66...while Kalani sat on bench?
 
mbr33ct said:
You brought this up in another thread/different forum . I believe in other you suggested Russell outplayed Kalani and managed to also mention points scored for both players. In both cases you fail to mention who wins the game, based on your post(s) one would assume Tenn wins.

My reply at that time wasn't so much Russell outplayed Kalani but it was her 4 fouls that kept her on bench. Kalani played only 11 minutes in that game...to Russell's 35 minutes. However, didn't Baylor win the game 88 to 66...while Kalani sat on bench?
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Baylor did win. Brown didn't do much in the game. Yes she got in foul trouble. I just think Mercedes is a better player.
 
Geew1992 said:
They still have the same coach right??:oops::rolleyes:
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Yes!

Glory, glory, Hallelujah !

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A year or two ago a transfer player visited Knoxville and then decided to go elsewhere because the team chemistry was not good.
She caught a lot of flack from the Ladyvol fans. Can someone please fill in the details? Who was the player? What did she not know that the sagacious ladyvol fans knew? Etc.
 
stwainfan said:
Baylor did win. Brown didn't do much in the game. Yes she got in foul trouble. I just think Mercedes is a better player.
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That is your right to think that. I think theposter was saying using that Baylor - Tenn game as an example of why she is better is a flawed example.
 
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