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March General CBB Discussion Thread

bendm said:
Definitely not. Don’t think the thoughts of a UK fan needed to be shared at all. Pretty sure you recently posted some stupid tweet from this guy saying UConn wasn’t one of the 5 bluebloods.
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It's Matt Norlander. Unless he's faking it. A UK fan would have put UK first. Matt is not a UK fan.
 
KingAG said:
That isn’t why I asked. You said you don’t believe SH would be at least 26-3 with that schedule, I think that’s absurd.
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Correct, I think Seton Hall would have a handful of losses with their schedule. They've had some really bad games that resulted in losses this year with their actual schedule and I also think that would happen in the MAC. Just like what's happened with Akron in the MAC
 
navery12 said:
Correct, I think Seton Hall would have a handful of losses with their schedule. They've had some really bad games that resulted in losses this year with their actual schedule and I also think that would happen in the MAC. Just like what's happened with Akron in the MAC
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I disagree vehemently. Don’t think we’ll find common ground here. So we can agree to disagree.

Who cares about a Miami(OH) anyway
 
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KingAG said:
I'm not missing the point. I don't believe going undefeated against any schedule should be awarded with an at large bid. Where is the line? You can play D2 teams and be an at large? At large should be reserved for the best teams. That's how its always been done. If they win the conference tourney, dance away. We've seen mid majors deserving of at large bids. URI, St Mary's, Gonzaga, Wichita st, Butler, VCU, Yale, etc. These teams showed their quality against other quality teams. Maybe our criteria is different. There have been mid majors with better resumes that have had to win their conference tourney.
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You’re entitled to your opinion. But you aren’t entitled to ignoring what the WAB computers are telling you. They are telling you that if a bubble team from a Power conference (as most bubble teams are) had played the Miami of Ohio schedule to date, the average bubble team would have been expected to lose twice. Miami losing once in their conference tourney would still have navigated its schedule with one less loss than the average bubble team would have been expected to have. Nothing I just said is an opinion, it’s all fact.
 
KingAG said:
So there's a scenerio where the MAC gets 2 bids and the BE gets 3? That's why we are going to have a split
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It is very clear that the Committee doesn’t decide how many bids a conference is entitled to. They at least try to pick the best at large teams. We can all fight about how you measure “best,” but the thought that if the WCC gets 3 bids that means the Committee is saying the WCC is as good as the Big East is just incorrect. Not everything is an opinion.
 
KingAG said:
The worst sos to ever get an at large bid was 196. What you’re advocating for is unprecedented
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I’m with you on this one. Not sure why there is so much support for a team that has one quad 2 win. Their schedule is laughable regardless if p4 teams didn’t play them.
 
Leebo said:
When and where did Norlander say it then?
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According to twitter on Monday's episode of the Eye on CBB Podcast, but I have no idea.

Edit: And also according to the bottom of the graphic itself.
 
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7774 said:
According to twitter on Monday's episode of the Eye on CBB Podcast, but I have no idea.

Edit: And also according to the bottom of the graphic itself.
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Not a lot of rationale - would love to hear how he, a CT guy, rates the UConn job so low.
 
controlfade said:
the whole SEC is a bunch of Vandy's with the exception of Florida.
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Yeah, they're the perfect league to jack up your metrics if you're an elite team. They're really fat in the middle with teams good enough to be in that 15-25 range, but nothing more.
 
RuffRuff said:
Yeah, they're the perfect league to jack up your metrics if you're an elite team. They're really fat in the middle with teams good enough to be in that 15-25 range, but nothing more.
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exactly, hence what i have been saying about Florida
 
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controlfade said:
exactly, hence what i have been saying about Florida
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It's how they've been slaughtering them.

The other thing about the SEC is they are really low on great centers, front courts. So a team like Florida can romp in the paint. If you look at top rebounders in the SEC, Florida has two guys in top 3, and then Haugh is 20th. A lot of the kids in the top 10 are guard/forwards.

Vandy - meh
Alabama - terrible rebounding team
Arkansas- perimeter oriented

Crazy that UF's frontcourt starters are all eligible to come back too - he can run these guys back for another year if he wanted to. I know Haugh is supposed to go first round, so he may go - but even if Golden can get the other two back and Fland, may be kicking off the year as preseason 1.
 
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KingAG said:
I disagree vehemently. Don’t think we’ll find common ground here. So we can agree to disagree.

Who cares about a Miami(OH) anyway
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They're a fun story until they get pounded in the first round of the tourney, then everyone will be asking themselves why they got an at large.

As for Norlander's list - without rationale, not sure what to make of it other than clickbait. You have to substantiate a list like that.
 
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