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March General CBB Discussion Thread

KingAG said:
I'm not missing the point. I don't believe going undefeated against any schedule should be awarded with an at large bid. Where is the line? You can play D2 teams and be an at large? At large should be reserved for the best teams. That's how its always been done. If they win the conference tourney, dance away. We've seen mid majors deserving of at large bids. URI, St Mary's, Gonzaga, Wichita st, Butler, VCU, Yale, etc. These teams showed their quality against other quality teams. Maybe our criteria is different. There have been mid majors with better resumes that have had to win their conference tourney.
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You’re entitled to your opinion. But you aren’t entitled to ignoring what the WAB computers are telling you. They are telling you that if a bubble team from a Power conference (as most bubble teams are) had played the Miami of Ohio schedule to date, the average bubble team would have been expected to lose twice. Miami losing once in their conference tourney would still have navigated its schedule with one less loss than the average bubble team would have been expected to have. Nothing I just said is an opinion, it’s all fact.
 
KingAG said:
So there's a scenerio where the MAC gets 2 bids and the BE gets 3? That's why we are going to have a split
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It is very clear that the Committee doesn’t decide how many bids a conference is entitled to. They at least try to pick the best at large teams. We can all fight about how you measure “best,” but the thought that if the WCC gets 3 bids that means the Committee is saying the WCC is as good as the Big East is just incorrect. Not everything is an opinion.
 
KingAG said:
The worst sos to ever get an at large bid was 196. What you’re advocating for is unprecedented
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I’m with you on this one. Not sure why there is so much support for a team that has one quad 2 win. Their schedule is laughable regardless if p4 teams didn’t play them.
 
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Leebo said:
When and where did Norlander say it then?
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According to twitter on Monday's episode of the Eye on CBB Podcast, but I have no idea.

Edit: And also according to the bottom of the graphic itself.
 
RuffRuff said:
Not sure if this one can use its own thread. Zags over UConn is rich. Nova 6 to UConn 14?

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Indiana basketball was a better job, 40 years ago

Shaka jumped that cow football school years ago
 
7774 said:
According to twitter on Monday's episode of the Eye on CBB Podcast, but I have no idea.

Edit: And also according to the bottom of the graphic itself.
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Not a lot of rationale - would love to hear how he, a CT guy, rates the UConn job so low.
 
controlfade said:
the whole SEC is a bunch of Vandy's with the exception of Florida.
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Yeah, they're the perfect league to jack up your metrics if you're an elite team. They're really fat in the middle with teams good enough to be in that 15-25 range, but nothing more.
 
Mr. Wonderful said:
There's no way this isn't clickbait.
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For sure, since it’s according to a guy who lives in Connecticut with his wife and two sons, is an avid guitarist, amateur drummer and enthusiastic skier per his bio.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Yeah, they're the perfect league to jack up your metrics if you're an elite team. They're really fat in the middle with teams good enough to be in that 15-25 range, but nothing more.
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exactly, hence what i have been saying about Florida
 
controlfade said:
exactly, hence what i have been saying about Florida
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It's how they've been slaughtering them.

The other thing about the SEC is they are really low on great centers, front courts. So a team like Florida can romp in the paint. If you look at top rebounders in the SEC, Florida has two guys in top 3, and then Haugh is 20th. A lot of the kids in the top 10 are guard/forwards.

Vandy - meh
Alabama - terrible rebounding team
Arkansas- perimeter oriented

Crazy that UF's frontcourt starters are all eligible to come back too - he can run these guys back for another year if he wanted to. I know Haugh is supposed to go first round, so he may go - but even if Golden can get the other two back and Fland, may be kicking off the year as preseason 1.
 
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KingAG said:
I disagree vehemently. Don’t think we’ll find common ground here. So we can agree to disagree.

Who cares about a Miami(OH) anyway
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They're a fun story until they get pounded in the first round of the tourney, then everyone will be asking themselves why they got an at large.

As for Norlander's list - without rationale, not sure what to make of it other than clickbait. You have to substantiate a list like that.
 
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RuffRuff said:
It's how they've been slaughtering them.

The other thing about the SEC is they are really low on great centers, front courts. So a team like Florida can romp in the paint. If you look at top rebounders in the SEC, Florida has two guys in top 3, and then Haugh is 20th. A lot of the kids in the top 10 are guard/forwards.

Vandy - meh
Alabama - terrible rebounding team
Arkansas- perimeter oriented

Crazy that UF's frontcourt starters are all eligible to come back too - he can run these guys back for another year if he wanted to. I know Haugh is supposed to go first round, so he may go - but even if Golden can get the other two back and Fland, may be kicking off the year as preseason 1.
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Florida is def been able to play bully ball with their front court in the SEC, their guards have been awful shooting the ball and against good teams it has cost them
 
I know Texas tech is still playing great but realistically these two injuries lowers the legit dark horse candidates to make a final 4 with the real plausible possibility oilfield beating a top 6 team.. I don’t think much of the rest of the pool
 
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businesslawyer said:
You’re entitled to your opinion. But you aren’t entitled to ignoring what the WAB computers are telling you. They are telling you that if a bubble team from a Power conference (as most bubble teams are) had played the Miami of Ohio schedule to date, the average bubble team would have been expected to lose twice. Miami losing once in their conference tourney would still have navigated its schedule with one less loss than the average bubble team would have been expected to have. Nothing I just said is an opinion, it’s all fact.
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We have a difference of opinion on what “fact” means. I honestly don’t care what “WAB” tells me about the team with the 360th ranked SOS.
 
BFieldHusky said:
So Ruff once again posts something, and does no research on it. Shocking.

Yet, he demands that people bring facts and data when arguing with him. He's a joke.
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The tweet was not 3 years old. Calm down man - so many people here with such a stick up their @sses.

I saw a string arguing on whether Seton Hall or Miami of Ohio should get in for multiple pages. I don't care - it's all good. Hard to imagine what some of you are like socially.
 
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RuffRuff said:
The tweet was not 3 years old. Calm down man - so many people here with such a stick up their @sses.

I saw a string arguing on whether Seton Hall or Miami of Ohio should get in for multiple pages. I don't care - it's all good. Hard to imagine what some of you are like socially.
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That’s pertinent to a general CBB discussion this week.
 
Leebo said:
Right. It's clickbait. Instead of falling for the bait and ending up making a pointless argument here, take two seconds to check where the info came from.
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Seems so - I saw Norlander on it and thought it was legit, my bad. Did not realize someone would reference a 3 year old list. I will do my best to audit all pass alongs on the go forward.
 
RuffRuff said:
The tweet was not 3 years old. Calm down man - so many people here with such a stick up their @sses.

I saw a string arguing on whether Seton Hall or Miami of Ohio should get in for multiple pages. I don't care - it's all good. Hard to imagine what some of you are like socially.
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The list was. Start doing some research. It's not that hard.
 
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