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auror said:
Now do almost every other year of his career. If you think he's "fixed" being injury prone as he's entered his 30s as opposed to "just in a lucky good stretch", I'd love to sell you some beachfront property in Arizona.
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Idk. It seems like he was very intentional about being healthier and maybe Lebron put him on to some secret regime.

But I do remember him talking about doing extra work to prepare his body for the season.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
He played in 76 games last year and 44 out of 47 this year.

The Anthony Davis disrespect over this trade has been crazy (from everyone not just this board) lol
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And before that he averaged 45 games a year for 5 straight years.

The year is young.
 
gtcam said:
Is Lebron going to put up with Luka's lack of desire to expend any energy on D?
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Lebron is over.

He is in the sunset of a legendary career and they don't have enough horses to win. Luka and Lebron will not work.

Assume that LeBron to Golden State or back to Cleveland might happen.
 
JohnFSilver said:
Lebron is over.

He is in the sunset of a legendary career and they don't have enough horses to win. Luka and Lebron will not work.

Assume that LeBron to Golden State or back to Cleveland might happen.
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That’s a thought-provoking perspective. Combined with the BJ Armstrong take, it makes me wonder if the primary reason for doing the trade owner-to-owner in the night was in order to keep Lebron in the dark about it because they knew he wouldn’t like it… Having said that, Lebron is definitely not a ball hog (as stated by someone who implied it by saying that now they’ll have two). I haven’t watched enough Luka to make the same claim on his behalf, however I’m pretty sure he’s had a whole bunch of triple doubles in his career.
 
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thekollieman said:
That’s a thought-provoking perspective. Combined with the BJ Armstrong take, it makes me wonder if the primary reason for doing the trade owner-to-owner in the night was in order to keep Lebron in the dark about it because they knew he wouldn’t like it… Having said that, Lebron is definitely not a ball hog (as stated by someone who implied it by saying that now they’ll have two). I haven’t watched enough Luka to make the same claim on his behalf, however I’m pretty sure he’s had a whole bunch of triple doubles in his career.
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Both Luka and Lebron are ball dominant. They both need ball in their hands. Luka can't play off ball, while Lebron off ball makes no sense. So what they will do is take turns.
 
I am not the huge Luka fan that others on this board are. He is an incredible player, but Luka’s conditioning is clearly an issue, just look at him. I have always had a bad taste in my mouth over him running off Porzingis, who is one of the best centers of this era. I wonder if Luka is a little more difficult to manage than we know about, and giving him a “bet the franchise” contract was too much risk for the Mavericks front office.

That said, why didn’t Dallas shop Luka if they didn’t want him long-term? They would have gotten a lot more back. Davis is a great player, but he is getting old and his stats are slipping a little already. 32 or 33 is when most NBA stars start to really decline. Klay Thompson is one example. Khris Middleton is a 3 time all star that plays on minutes restrictions and, while still good, is declining rapidly at 33. Even a freak of nature like Al Horford made his last all star team 8 seasons ago.

The NBA has the top athletes in the world, and even a barely perceptible slow down can turn a player from a star to just a good player, or worse, in a season. The Mavericks should have shopped Luka if they didn’t want him.
 
Rocktheworld said:
As in, they went straight to the Lakers? It does seem that way
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yes, that is what Shams reported, that the Mavs GM reached out to the Lakers and initiated the trade talks to swap Luka for AD.
 
There's a rumor floating around this morning that the Lakers were the second call, after the first (unnamed) NBA team stated they had no Interest in trading for Luka.

Personally I see this as BS, floated in an attempt at damage control.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
There's a rumor floating around this morning that the Lakers were the second call, after the first (unnamed) NBA team stated they had no Interest in trading for Luka.

Personally I see this as BS, floated in an attempt at damage control.
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This is an interesting take.

 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
This is an interesting take.

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Vegas isn't greenlighting another NBA/NHL arena anyway. Any NBA team would play in T-Mobile. So while it is known that they want casinos in Texas, nobody in Austin is going to blink because the threaten to move the Mavs. The state has two other teams.

No idea how reliable this is, but it's probably closer.
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Ok, more supporting what I posted above. Mav's new nepotism GM is just an idiot.

 
Lebron definitely knew about I don't believe that BS.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Ok, more supporting what I posted above. Mav's new nepotism GM is just an idiot.

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Yeah he’s an idiot for not getting more. At the same time the Mavs aren’t tanking. They’re probably better fit to beat they’re going to be a great team this year.

Only question is if Kyrie can carry the perimeter scoring for an entire playoff.

I say no personally. But they might be better off short term. The roster makes more sense.
 
Andddd Rob Pelinka makes the Lakers immediate title contenders. All without giving up Reaves or Rui.

 
The people who actually watch the games/study film seem to be a lot less gung ho on Williams than those of us that just scan the box score, FWIW. But there's no doubt his upside is legit. I always liked him as a prospect.
 
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champs99and04 said:
The people who actually watch the games/study film seem to be a lot less gung ho on Williams than those of us that just scan the box score, FWIW. But there's no doubt his upside is legit. I always liked him as a prospect.
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I watch a lot of Charlotte games. He’s for sure more of an upside guy. But getting out of Charlotte and next to guys like Luka and LeBron should help him tap into that very high upside.

He's younger than Knecht and is able to be apart of the present and future for the Lakers.

Rob Pelinka has knocked the deadline out of the park setting the team up to win now and prepare for life after LeBron. All without giving up Reaves or Rui.

Just their 23 year old rookie lol
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
Andddd Rob Pelinka makes the Lakers immediate title contenders. All without giving up Reaves or Rui.

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This trade feels lopsided in Charlotte's favor. Might work for both teams. I still don't think the Lakers have anywhere near enough to win the west.
 
HuskyHawk said:
This trade feels lopsided in Charlotte's favor. Might work for both teams. I still don't think the Lakers have anywhere near enough to win the west.
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I disagree. Lakers get the big they want and he can help them win now and in the future. He’s actually younger than Dalton too.

Btw, as much heat the Mavs have taken and they may be the deepest team in the NBA coming out the deadline.
 
HuskyWarrior611 said:
I disagree. Lakers get the big they want and he can help them win now and in the future. He’s actually younger than Dalton too.

Btw, as much heat the Mavs have taken and they may be the deepest team in the NBA coming out the deadline.
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Lakers overpaid to get the big they want. I get that. Two years from now I think Knecht will be a straight up better NBA player than Williams. Charlotte also got an unprotected 1st round pick and Reddish who is a decent bench piece.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Lakers overpaid to get the big they want. I get that. Two years from now I think Knecht will be a straight up better NBA player than Williams. Charlotte also got an unprotected 1st round pick and Reddish who is a decent bench piece.
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Strongly disagree on Knecht vs Williams. Williams is younger and already is averaging 16 and 10 this year.

For perspective on where Knecht is at age wise in the NBA. He is the same age as Anthony Edwards and Lamelo Ball.

Older than Cade Cunningham and Jalen Green. He can be a solid starter but Williams upside is a 20 and 10 two way big.

Lakers got a steal.
 
I'm genuinely confused by the near universal praise the Lakers are getting for this deal. Mark Williams is a decent player, but this is a guy who has played 85 out of 212 career games. To say he's injury prone would be an insult to guys who have that label
 
navery12 said:
I'm genuinely confused by the near universal praise the Lakers are getting for this deal. Mark Williams is a decent player, but this is a guy who has played 85 out of 212 career games. To say he's injury prone would be an insult to guys who have that label
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It was a huge need. If he can stay healthy, obviously a huge if, it is a good deal for them.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
It was a huge need. If he can stay healthy, obviously a huge if, it is a good deal for them.
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I agree it was a huge need, and I guess you have to work with what's available, but given the price they paid I'd want a difference maker in return and I just don't see that with Mark Williams
 
navery12 said:
I agree it was a huge need, and I guess you have to work with what's available, but given the price they paid I'd want a difference maker in return and I just don't see that with Mark Williams
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Again it’s all about health, but he has taken a real step forward. He is a good free throw shooter, can pass pretty well, and grades out as a relatively good defender in his minutes. The Lakers pick is 6 yrs down the line, and although I think Knecht will be a good player, I think Williams has a much higher ceiling at a bigger position of need. They’re in win now mode, next 2/3 years seem to be the window.
 
Night and day difference in how he was moving back then, obviously still great but crazy to see how he moves now at only 25

 
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