Lubin and the Front Court

[prankster]

The game moves way too fast for him right now.

Going forward, he's going to be caught in a numbers game.

Enoch is a project as well, but likely further along than Lubin. So he's behind Enoch and Facey in a traditional lineup and will also lose opportunity time when UConn goes small with Hamilton at the four.

Brimah and Nolan are established as the one-two at center.

Add in UConn's efforts to recruit another big for next season and things are very tight for Lubin.

He needs to improve significantly to avoid being buried next season and beyond.

Well....he does have a summer ahead of him. He has opportunity to be a pleasant surprise next season.

 

[Bonesbrigade]

I can't be the only one wondering how he hasn't passed Nolan right? You'd think to pass Nolan all you'd have to do is get rebounds, or consistently make one basket a game... Idk.

Also there's no way we were the only d1 school to offer him, he was at least a 3 star.

Seriously, Nolan is rough out there. We need more depth down low to bang efficiently.

 

[Stainmaster]

I can't be the only one wondering how he hasn't passed Nolan right? You'd think to pass Nolan all you'd have to do is get rebounds, or consistently make one basket a game... Idk.

Also there's no way we were the only d1 school to offer him, he was at least a 3 star.

2 stars on TOS, 3 on ESPN. TOS, ESPN, and VerbalCommits have us as his only offer. ESPN listed interest from Auburn, Marquette, and Memphis, but this is the first I'm ever hearing of it - that information wasn't discussed when he committed.

And if you think that those schools showing "interest" (not even giving him an offer) is enough to say that he has this tremendous upside, remember that T-Sam had a Louisville offer and Nolan had one from Arizona.

 

[Stainmaster]

Amidst all of the Nolan bashing that's occurred here this season, here's a thought:

What if (shocking as it might seem) Lubin hasn't shown Ollie enough to make him think that he's a better option for those minutes than Nolan?

 

[Huskyforlife]

2 stars on TOS, 3 on ESPN. TOS, ESPN, and VerbalCommits have us as his only offer. ESPN listed interest from Auburn, Marquette, and Memphis, but this is the first I'm ever hearing of it - that information wasn't discussed when he committed.

And if you think that those schools showing "interest" (not even giving him an offer) is enough to say that he has this tremendous upside, remember that T-Sam had a Louisville offer and Nolan had one from Arizona.

I never said he had tremendous upside, I'm saying he has to be better than Nolan. Kid had to have gotten another d1 offer, doesn't mean it's listed on a website.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Seriously, Nolan is rough out there. We need more depth down low to bang efficiently.

Exactly. And his head coach (who watches these guys play on a daily basis) has determined that Phil Nolan is ahead of Lubin on the depth chart. That speaks volumes.

And it's only going to get tougher for Lubin as additional big man reinforcements are brought in.

Sure, he could improve rapidly. But so could Facey, Enoch, etc. and all of those guys are currently ahead of Lubin. He has a long ways to go.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Amidst all of the Nolan bashing that's occurred here this season, here's a thought:

What if (shocking as it might seem) Lubin hasn't shown Ollie enough to make him think that he's a better option for those minutes than Nolan?

Then what in the blue hell did Ollie see to give him his only d1 scholarship? Maybe he has to learn things, but Nolan gives us literally nothing. At least I think Lubin could rebound, or take out the other teams best player

 

[Bonesbrigade]

Amidst all of the Nolan bashing that's occurred here this season, here's a thought:

What if (shocking as it might seem) Lubin hasn't shown Ollie enough to make him think that he's a better option for those minutes than Nolan?

For sure that is a possibility. That's the kind of stuff I'd like to know though (as we all would like to). Sounds like he has a long way to go...hopefully for everyone involved it happens.

 

[Stainmaster]

I never said he had tremendous upside, I'm saying he has to be better than Nolan. Kid had to have gotten another d1 offer, doesn't mean it's listed on a website.

Not how it works. I'll believe he got when I see solid proof.

 

[Stainmaster]

Then what in the blue hell did Ollie see to give him his only d1 scholarship? Maybe he has to learn things, but Nolan gives us literally nothing. At least I think Lubin could rebound, or take out the other teams best player

This isn't Kentucky - not all players are brought in with the intention of swooping in and taking over veterans' spots in the lineup right off the bat as a freshman. Ollie offered him for the end product of 4 years, not instant impact as a freshman.

 

[KembaStepback]

Who cares about star ratings now that he's here? All I know is that Lubin looks better than Nolan on offense. Nolan is a superior defender. That is why Nolan plays.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I have a feeling Ollie is one of those coaches who"redshirts" freshman. Unless they can block shots like brima or creat like Hamilton...

 

[tcf15]

Who cares about star ratings now that he's here? All I know is that Lubin looks better than Nolan on offense. Nolan is a superior defender. That is why Nolan plays.

Not sure why people don't understand that.

 

[Huskyforlife]

This isn't Kentucky - not all players are brought in with the intention of swooping in and taking over veterans' spots in the lineup right off the bat as a freshman. Ollie offered him for the end product of 4 years, not instant impact as a freshman.

I'm not saying Lubin should start, as a bench player I find it hard to believe he can't out produce Nolan, jmo

 

[HuskyBballFan]

I have a feeling Ollie is one of those coaches who"redshirts" freshman. Unless they can block shots like brima or creat like Hamilton...

Oh brother.

Omar Calhoun, Amida Brimah, and Daniel Hamilton all played plenty as freshman under Kevin Ollie......because those guys were good enough to play as freshman.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Oh brother.

Omar Calhoun, Amida Brimah, and Daniel Hamilton all played plenty as freshman under Kevin Ollie.because those guys were good enough to play as freshman.

That's my point, Hamilton and Omar were top 50 recruits, brima was a three star but he has a great skill. I'm just looking at facey, Lubin, tsam for most of last year.

 

[Stainmaster]

I'm not saying Lubin should start, as a bench player I find it hard to believe he can't out produce Nolan, jmo

You've seen Lubin make fewer mistakes because he's been on the court for fewer minutes than Phil has. Thinking he'd be better because Phil has had more poor plays is like Chief suggesting that we put Pat Lenehan in as our 3-point specialist since Omar's been off lately.

 

[Huskyforlife]

And before anyone suggests I think I know more than coach. I don't. These are just my thoughts

 

[Huskyforlife]

You've seen Lubin make fewer mistakes because he's been on the court for fewer minutes than Phil has. Thinking he'd be better because Phil has had more poor plays is like Chief suggesting that we put Pat Lenehan in as our 3-point specialist since Omar's been off lately.

I'd just like to see Lubin get a chance, but I see your point.

 

[jibsey]

He can make a layup at point blank range. Nolan not so much.

 

[KembaStepback]

Lubin would be a marginal upgrade on offense over Nolan. Plus I don't think they want either of them shooting or posting up at this point.

Nolan as proven to be a good post defender.

 

[donyell34]

Very much doubt he'll ever be close to Hayward or Nelson. If he stays at Uconn for the whole off season and works with a trainer each and every day losing unneeded weight, work the lower body to get some lift, getting in much better overall shape and learning basketball moves that would benefit him we might have a player and contributor down the road. With Enoch here will have a tough time getting playing time. I like the guy but please don't ever put Adrian and the Rock in the same sentence as BB goes.

 

[Bonesbrigade]

Nolan has more experience. Is taller. Better defender I'm hearing. I totally see why he is getting the minutes. Can't finish. Wish he could finish better. How can't you finish better when you're 6'10''. I once heard Shaq O'Neil couldn't dunk until he was 6'8''...that blows my mind..

I always said if I was taller, could jump higher, shoot better, and dribble better I would have been one hell of a basketball player...

 

[ctchamps]

Who cares about star ratings now that he's here? All I know is that Lubin looks better than Nolan on offense. Nolan is a superior defender. That is why Nolan plays.

I actually like PN on offense alongside AB more than KF. It's not because PN can score better than Kentan. It's because he knows where to be on the court as the team is running plays. He sets screens better both on the perimeter and interior and does the pick and roll better. Both Kentan and the Rock have to be told what to do and that bogs down the offense. On defense Kentan is the best rebounder between PN, KF and RL, but he is prone to be lost on defense although better than RL. Not the case with Phil. Of the three KF should have the most upside. But he has to figure out how to play team ball.

I've liked the adjustments PN has made the last three or so games. He's playing more like he did at the end of last season.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I actually like PN on offense alongside AB more than KF. It's not because PN can score better than Kentan. It's because he knows where to be on the court as the team is running plays. He sets screens better both on the perimeter and interior and does the pick and roll better. Both Kentan and the Rock have to be told what to do and that bogs down the offense. On defense Kentan is the best rebounder between PN, KF and RL, but he is prone to be lost on defense although better than RL. Not the case with Phil. Of the three KF should have the most upside. But he has to figure out how to play team ball.

I've liked the adjustments PN has made the last three or so games. He's playing more like he did at the end of last season.

I wish I could see all the things you claim you're seeing. Maybe I need to watch closer...