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Brown, great kid and NBA body

Yabysele, size and 3's

Davis, Jackson & Bentil all had nice college careers, somebody may emerge

a couple of foreigners I never heard of

and a long shot
 
I like Bentil, the Croatian center, and Brown.

The rest, eh, not so much
 
Danny Ainge is about to shake things up im looking forward to tge move. How about they go after Jimmy Butler for a start
 
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The traded Davis and the guy they took immediately after him for a Memphis 2019 pick. Depending on any protections it has, that could be pretty high as Conley z no and gasoline are likely to be gone or towards the end of their careers.

I was hoping we would take a shot on skal or diallo as I see the French dude as a sullinger type. A skilled big body stretch four, who's solid but not great at rebounding. Zizic gets rave reviews as the best rebounder in the class. That's not nothing. I really liked Davis-of course we trade him.

Kembuckets draft grade: C+
 
time will tell, I don't really value the opinions of "experts" very much, I think they're just talking heads that tend to intoxicate one another

I really like their first two picks

I think most bash him for not trading for a star player, that has to be a two way street
 
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You're probably the only one. The media is crucifying Ainge.
The media knows less than s***. I don't care what some journalist who has never seen these kids play thinks. They just compare actual draft position to mock draft position to make a judgement. If Kobe was taken at 2 instead of 13, the media would have been quick to call that GM an idiot too.
 
The media knows less than s***. I don't care what some journalist who has never seen these kids play thinks. They just compare actual draft position to mock draft position to make a judgement. If Kobe was taken at 2 instead of 13, the media would have been quick to call that GM an idiot too.
Alright well Boston fans were less than pleased as well. You would only have to check Twitter to know that. So, in reality, everyone knows less that sh.it. Until Ainge is proven right or wrong this draft just looks like another missed opportunity to lure in big players via trades with all those picks. There's no doubt that the C's need to make a splash this off season otherwise they're just competing to be 2nd or 3rd in the east. Cleveland is miles ahead of anyone else in this conference.
 
The traded Davis and the guy they took immediately after him for a Memphis 2019 pick. Depending on any protections it has, that could be pretty high as Conley z no and gasoline are likely to be gone or towards the end of their careers.
June 23: Celtics do two-for-one deal with Grizzlies
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Boston Celtics get:
2019 first-round pick (via Clippers)

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Memphis Grizzlies get:
Rights to Deyonta Davis (No. 31, 2016); rights to Rade Zagorac (No. 35, 2016)

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It's a Memphis pick via the Clippers, so it won't likely be a great pick. But it is a first rounder, which is a step up.

That said, they already have the Grizzlies' actual 2019 pick, protected 1-8, 1-6 in 2020, and unprotected in 2021.
 
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Who knows, he may have a gem there somewhere we will wait and see.

The one that I like is Demetrius Jackson, think he's good enough to be a solid back up at some point of his career. Great athlete, streaky shooter but strong and good defender.
 
Danny Ainge is about to shake things up im looking forward to tge move. How about they go after Jimmy Butler for a start

Celtics fans need to stop with this nonsense the Bulls have the decided to use Butler to build around he's their centerpiece on the team. He's signed to a team friendly contact and both him and the team like each other
 
June 23: Celtics do two-for-one deal with Grizzlies
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Boston Celtics get:
2019 first-round pick (via Clippers)

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Memphis Grizzlies get:
Rights to Deyonta Davis (No. 31, 2016); rights to Rade Zagorac (No. 35, 2016)

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It's a Memphis pick via the Clippers, so it won't likely be a great pick. But it is a first rounder, which is a step up.

That said, they already have the Grizzlies' actual 2019 pick, protected 1-8, 1-6 in 2020, and unprotected in 2021.

How does that work? Can you choose when you want to exercise the option on the pick?
 
Davis was projected as a lottery in every mock draft. Why trade him for a lottery protected pick 3 years from now?


June 23: Celtics do two-for-one deal with Grizzlies
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Boston Celtics get:
2019 first-round pick (via Clippers)

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Memphis Grizzlies get:
Rights to Deyonta Davis (No. 31, 2016); rights to Rade Zagorac (No. 35, 2016)

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It's a Memphis pick via the Clippers, so it won't likely be a great pick. But it is a first rounder, which is a step up.

That said, they already have the Grizzlies' actual 2019 pick, protected 1-8, 1-6 in 2020, and unprotected in 2021.
 
Davis was projected as a lottery in every mock draft. Why trade him for a lottery protected pick 3 years from now?

Agreed. I was hoping we would take him 16. thrilled he was there at 31. Doesn't matter anyway.
 
I would hold off on judging how Ainge did until after free agency gets underway. I still believe you're going to see the Cs shed some of these picks as well as someone on their current roster for a bigger name. They drafted front court heavy, so it will allow them to get rid of some of their current front court roster. They're not going to get a Kevin Love type name, but they may be able to get a younger fringe all star type player. The thing that hurts their chances the most is that I really don't see anyone drooling over a trade that includes Jaylen Brown... I just really don't see him as a perennial all star or someone to build your team around. Cs swung and missed there, in my eyes anyways. Kris Dunn was the right move at the 3rd spot.
 
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Danny Ainge Draft History

It's sorta amazing the dude still has a job.
A lot of those picks have worked out well, I don't think that history says what you think it does. There were some bad picks but find a GM who hasn't made some bad ones. A lot of the bad picks were actually drafted for another team, not really his picks. He hasn't been able to draft a superstar but he largely hasn't been drafting in a spot to get one. This draft was a 2 person draft and they got the 3rd pick. I think most analysts thought picks 3-8 or so were all pretty negligible. I'm not sure where all the outrage is coming from on the Brown pick. Boston doesn't need good players, they have a roster full of them. They need a great player. I think he went with upside over current ability. If Brown can tighten up the jumpshot, the size and athleticism is great. That's a big if but given the alternatives, I can see why he went that way.

He's also proven to be a great GM as far as trading goes. He managed to put together a roster of good NBA players while also collecting a ton of picks. The picks turned out to be in a somewhat weak draft. That's just bad luck. They've still got the 2 Nets picks and the Nets seem a good bet to be really bad so hopefully the lottery works in their favor.
 
He can't draft....he can only make deals...should have taken Dunn...dammit
 
He can't draft....he can only make deals...should have taken Dunn...dammit

Woulda coulda shoulda - I like Dunn amazing story but we need to take the CT out of this one. I like Brown a lot better as far as potential no doubt.
 
A lot of those picks have worked out well, I don't think that history says what you think it does. There were some bad picks but find a GM who hasn't made some bad ones. A lot of the bad picks were actually drafted for another team, not really his picks. He hasn't been able to draft a superstar but he largely hasn't been drafting in a spot to get one. This draft was a 2 person draft and they got the 3rd pick. I think most analysts thought picks 3-8 or so were all pretty negligible. I'm not sure where all the outrage is coming from on the Brown pick. Boston doesn't need good players, they have a roster full of them. They need a great player. I think he went with upside over current ability. If Brown can tighten up the jumpshot, the size and athleticism is great. That's a big if but given the alternatives, I can see why he went that way.

He's also proven to be a great GM as far as trading goes. He managed to put together a roster of good NBA players while also collecting a ton of picks. The picks turned out to be in a somewhat weak draft. That's just bad luck. They've still got the 2 Nets picks and the Nets seem a good bet to be really bad so hopefully the lottery works in their favor.

yeah, i agree. some of the late first round picks didn't work out well, but the fact that we were rarely picking in the top 5-10 is a testament to the consistency we've displayed. Too soon to bash smart and I think jaylen brown could be jimmy butler-esque if he improves on his mid range and long range shooting. It wasn't the pick I was hoping for, but not a bad pick by any stretch.
 
I love what Larry did btw....also that 2017/2018 nets picks are borderline untouchable....especially the 2017 one with the talent coming in next year
 
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Danny Ainge Draft History

It's sorta amazing the dude still has a job.

There's 20 or more GM's in the league that would kill to be in the position the Celtics are in, even after the draft last night. The roster is made up of solid young players that have value and they have a load of cap space with no bad contracts on the books. They also have the best young coach in the league and a good chance at the number one overall pick in a loaded 2017 draft due to a pick swap with the Nets that Ainge negotiated. I'm not excited about last night's draft but what are you talking about?
 
How does that work? Can you choose when you want to exercise the option on the pick?
If the pick 9-30 in 2019, the C's get the pick, no choice.
If it's 1-8, they wait until 2020. In 2020, if it's is 7-30, they get the pick. If not, they'll get the 2021 no matter what.
 
Davis was projected as a lottery in every mock draft. Why trade him for a lottery protected pick 3 years from now?
Clearly they didn't like him, and many other teams didn't either.

The Celtics now have 3 first round draft picks in 2019. I'm sure it's part of Ainge's long term plan to trade them for something, anything.

Sadly, that really hasn't worked out in a while, given how many assets they have.

What does the 2017 draft look like? Anyone know? Let's hope for the Nets to suck again (they should) and maybe get another Top-3 pick in a better draft.
 
What does the 2017 draft look like? Anyone know? Let's hope for the Nets to suck again (they should) and maybe get another Top-3 pick in a better draft.
Stacked. The top 2 guys are Josh Jackson (Kansas), who's a McGrady-type of wing who can score/defend/pass the hell out of the ball, and Giles (Duke), a big PF (6-11 w/ a 7-3 wingspan) who has range to 18 feet and is a monster offensive rebounder. Neither is as good as Simmons, but both are pretty close to sure things (tho Giles has a worrisome injury history).

Beyond them it's going to be filled with big PGs and big wings.

Re: the Celtics draft itself, I live in Berkeley so I saw Brown in person a bunch. At worst he'll be a bigger, stronger, more explosive Crowder on the defensive end -- a guy who can guard 1-through-4 and just strangle teams to death. He also has a knack for coming up with tough rebounds through, obviously, his athleticism, but also through his effort. He has a real motor, and multiple first-team all-defensive nods in his future.

What he's not -- and I think everybody knows this -- is a shot-maker. He may eventually develop into an acceptable spot-up 3-point shooter, and he'll finish around the rim, but he's never going to be a guy who can be the focal point of any offense.

That's ok, though, because I think his presence makes Crowder expendable/a usable asset in trades that pop up during the season. Ainge has a great track record with that, so while last night was disappointing, I think that he still has some real flexibility moving forward. I half expect Cousins to be in green come February.
 
I don't know why people look at that list and think Ainge didn't do well. I would say 2003 and 2011 are the only two where you can say they were bad, and 2003 he got Perkins at 27, while in 2011 the pick was at 25, not usually a great place to find talent.

Sure, he isn't Buford and the Spurs, but I think he's found good talent there.

2003: Marcus Banks and Kendrik Perkins. Not great, although I revise this because Perkins at 27 played in the league a long time. Not a terrible pick there.
2004: Jefferson, West, and Allen were all great picks for their draft position.
2005: Green was never great, but at the 18th pick? He played this year. 9 players ahead of him did not. And only a few selected after him were any better than him. Not a bad pick at 18.
2006: Rajon Rondo at 21. That's a great great pick.
2007: Green (but traded for Allen)
2008: J.R. Giddens. At 30, what are you going to do? Dragic and DeAndre Jordan were second rounders, but selecting at 30 is always a crapshoot.
2009: Didn't have a first rounder
2010: Avery Bradley at 19. I think that's a damn good pick in that place.
2011: Traded the 25th pick for JaJuan Johnson and a future second rounder. Forgettable. Jimmy Butler, Isaiah Thomas, Chandler Parsons, and some other rotation players were still on the board. I'd say this is the second round where the selections were bad.
2012: Sully at 21 and Melo at 22. One great pick from the 2os, and one bad one. Still, I'd say this was a good draft given their position.
2013: Olynyk. Jury is out, and they traded for him, so you can't really say they passed on Giannis, who is the only one after Olynyk that is definitely better than him (jury is out on Schröder and Deng)
2014: Marcus Smart and James Young. Too early to say much about this. Doesn't look great, though.
2015: Rozier and Hunter. Didn't love these picks when they happened, but not a great place to be selecting. Still too early to evaluate.
 
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