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sportsart said:
So I guess this is all final and Herbst blew it. At least according to Waylon. Let us not forget this thread.
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Weak.

Ironically, you and I have been on the same side of this issue for the last few days, and now you are taking cheap shots against me?
 
zls44 said:
His opinion was based on re-building the Big East with terible teams, so no.
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That's my bad. I should have dripped my post with a wee bit more sarcasm. I wasn't actually thinking he was right... at least not yet. This whole mess isn't over.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
UConn and Rutgers were the only ones that appeared to have other options that night. The other 5 would have agreed to anything. Herbst should have figured out by that point that she was getting played, as I had with absolutely no inside information, and locked up all 7 schools media rights for the next 6 years. Instead, she blows it off and basically thumbs her nose at them. Now Louisville, and potentially WVU and Cincinnati all have homes, and UConn and Rutgers are screwed.

She blew it. Good poker players don't blame a bad river card. She had a chance to protect the athletic program AND increase our chance of getting into the ACC all at the same time, and now we are begging for an ACC invite or we will be playing in the MAC East.
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Every school was, is, and will continue to be out for themselves. No one was going to lock up media rights for the next 6 years with the exception of USF and Cinci. Definitely not UL, WVU, UConn, RU, or TCU. Any commitments made that night would have been empty, and wouldn't have changed one thing about the situation all 7 find themselves in right now.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Weak.

Ironically, you and I have been on the same side of this issue for the last few days, and now you are taking cheap shots against me?
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If posting what you said is a cheap shot you need to get a thicker skin. Not once did I say she blew it or was doing a bad job. We are far from being on the same side.

It's so unlike you making it up as you go.
 
OK...West Virginia has begged to get into the ACC and according to CBSsports, has been denied...

UConn has also begged and not only have we not been denied, but sources close to Kevin Nathan and a North Carolina radio station indicate that the ACC is interested in us but wants to wait to see what Notre Dame and Penn State will do (as they should).

Herbst is apparently so confident in UConn's ability to get into a BCS conference not named the Big East, that she gave Marinatto the proverbial finger when other BE leaders (sans Rutgers) met at an emergency BE meeting. Keep in mind that Herbst knows things that no one on this message board know. She is also smarter than 95% of the residents of this message board, including myself.

It's WAY too early to panic. Let this all play out. UConn is in solid shape.
 
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Nelson even you have to admit there is no evidence that your "plan" would have worked. You are making an assumption.
 
SAMCRO said:
Every school was, is, and will continue to be out for themselves. No one was going to lock up media rights for the next 6 years with the exception of USF and Cinci. Definitely not UL, WVU, UConn, RU, or TCU. Any commitments made that night would have been empty, and wouldn't have changed one thing about the situation all 7 find themselves in right now.
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Since I was essentially going to type exactly this, I will simply like it, quote it, and throw in a +1 for good measure.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
We can discuss integrity in three years at halftime against Akron.
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Didn't you call out this board a few days ago by saying that it was too "depressing" for you to read? And you come up with this?

It's not impossible that WVU departs for the SEC, Notre Dame and Rutgers/Navy are invited to the ACC, the Big 10 holds at 12, and we are banished to the MAC. That possibility simply isn't as likely as you think.
 
uconnbaseball said:
Didn't you call out this board a few days ago by saying that it was too "depressing" for you to read? And you come up with this?

It's not impossible that WVU departs for the SEC, Notre Dame and Rutgers/Navy are invited to the ACC, the Big 10 holds at 12, and we are banished to the MAC. That possibility simply isn't as likely as you think.
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How dare this board be depressing and discuss actual scenarios that UConn's ACC flirtations have zero impact on.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Nelson even you have to admit there is no evidence that your "plan" would have worked. You are making an assumption.
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All the choices were lousy when Pitt and Syracuse skipped out. Herbst happened to choose the worst of the bad strategies. Her approach is a very high risk, low probability strategy.

You would NEVER sell a company the way Herbst is going about trying to sell UConn to the ACC.
 
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uconnbaseball said:
Didn't you call out this board a few days ago by saying that it was too "depressing" for you to read? And you come up with this?

It's not impossible that WVU departs for the SEC, Notre Dame and Rutgers/Navy are invited to the ACC, the Big 10 holds at 12, and we are banished to the MAC. That possibility simply isn't as likely as you think.
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It goes up every day UConn pursues this ACC or Bust approach.
 
UCONN is a top 20 academic institution, UCONN's athletic department is the tops in the Northeast (East of PENN State for that matter) and nobody is even close. UCONN will be all right in the big picture. It might take 2 or 3 years in a mid major conference but at the end of the day we will be ok. We just need to show some patience. Continue to support the school and we'll be fine. WE ARE UCONN!!!!
 
nelsonmuntz said:
All the choices were lousy when Pitt and Syracuse skipped out. Herbst happened to choose the worst of the bad strategies. Her approach is a very high risk, low probability strategy.

You would NEVER sell a company the way Herbst is going about trying to sell UConn to the ACC.
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By highlighting the advantages a certain company would bring to another through partnership?
 
zls44 said:
How dare this board be depressing and discuss actual scenarios that UConn's ACC flirtations have zero impact on.
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Do you know what Game Theory is? If you don't, look it up before we continue this discussion.
 
With Louisville and Cincinnati likely gone, what do you propose at this point? A national, football only conference with the likes of TCU, Houston, WVU, UConn, Rutgers, Boise State, Air Force, UCF, USF, and Temple? That might not be the worst thing in the world but seems awfully implausible.
 
If WVU heads to the sec, and louisville and Cincy head to the Big 12, doesn't Notre Dame joining the ACC become a lot more likely?
 
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MattMang23 said:
By highlighting the advantages a certain company would bring to another through partnership?
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I have covered this elsewhere. The right way to sell UConn to the ACC would be to make it look like UConn would succeed without the ACC. You must always leave yourself options, and more importantly, the buyer needs to think you have options.

If the ACC thinks that if UConn doesn't join it will become a MAC team, why bother paying for UConn?
 
CTBballfan243 said:
UCONN is a top 20 academic institution, UCONN's athletic department is the tops in the Northeast (East of PENN State for that matter) and nobody is even close. UCONN will be all right in the big picture. It might take 2 or 3 years in a mid major conference but at the end of the day we will be ok. We just need to show some patience. Continue to support the school and we'll be fine. WE ARE UCONN!!!!
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If we are in a mid-major conference, we will see a steep decline in all of our major sports. That would be disastrous.
 
Hey, the polo team has been a powerhouse without the Big East, why can't the others excel? I'm new, so I should state that this was sarcasm (I refuse to use emoticons).

This all sucks, but we'll still have fun. My wife is secretly happy. I can watch Glee with her now instead of yelling at the tv during games.
 
NutmegState said:
If WVU heads to the sec, and louisville and Cincy head to the Big 12, doesn't Notre Dame joining the ACC become a lot more likely?
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Yes, which is why I remain optimistic. If they do not join, it's possible the ACC goes to 16 wit us and Rutgers anyway.
 
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Imagine the fan reaction in Louisville if their president issued a statement saying we were offered a spot in the Big 12 and we turned it down. We are committed to the Big East.

What would the fan reaction on this board be if Herbst turned down an ACC invite?
 
I'll make you an offer Waylon. When the dust settles if we don't end up in a BCS conference I'll go away and never post again. If we do I'll expect you to do the same. Fair deal Mr Gloom & Doom?

We will be in a BCS conference. Believe it. It would be dumb to think otherwise.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I have covered this elsewhere. The right way to sell UConn to the ACC would be to make it look like UConn would succeed without the ACC. You must always leave yourself options, and more importantly, the buyer needs to think you have options.

If the ACC thinks that if UConn doesn't join it will become a MAC team, why bother paying for UConn?
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Herbst never publicly said we didn't have options. In fact she's said we are "sought after" and we will be fine. Who ever said she went and told the ACC "you have to take us or we will have no where else to go?" Look Nelson, the ACC isn't stupid. We don't have plausible options and they know it. Nothing she has said has made the ACC decide whether to take us or not.
 
CTBballfan243 said:
We would survive short term and exentually something would work out.
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The longer we are stuck in a non-BCS conference, the less likely it becomes that a knight on a white horse (the Big 10) or a passerby (ACC) saves us. Our fanbase and success would likely deteriorate in the MAC because recruits don't want to play Buffalo and Akron.
 
sportsart said:
I'll make you an offer Waylon. When the dust settles if we don't end up in a BCS conference I'll go away and never post again. If we do I'll expect you to do the same. Fair deal Mr Gloom & Doom?

We will be in a BCS conference. Believe it. It would be dumb to think otherwise.
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Not a fair bet, for your sake or his sake. Make a bet, but not a permanent one. This is the only site with a significant UConn following
 
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