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Lou Lopez-Senechal, Undertaker or Buried

Present Coach, last coach and last Athletic Director all speak unusually highly of her.
I have do doubt that after acclimated, she’ll make a very positive contribution.
And when was the last time Geno didn’t state that—(insert name here)— didn’t needed “a lot of work on the defensive side”?
 
Thanks for the HoopsHype article, that is very interesting too. Another thing I have noticed with the PER stat is the weighting of various stats seems to have somewhat of a bias towards the bigs, making comparing players at very different positions, like a PG to a C for example difficult. There is also the question of the competition.

I was comparing last year's players to how the played the year before, and after 6 games the results were terrible. But I was comparing the prior year end PER to the figure for that year thru just 6 games. In our case the early season schedule is much tougher than when we get into the conference schedule, so predictably as we got into the easy part of the schedule most player's numbers got significantly better, but still disappointing compared to the prior year.

Win share per 40, and offensive and defensive ratings are also interesting, particularly when you look at a player coming from another program. It will be interesting for a player like Lou for example. Her PER was better than Azzi or Caroline, but of course done against much weaker competition, and on a team where she was the first option offensively. That means her PER at Uconn is probably lower, because of far fewer scoring attempts and maybe other Uconn players grab a rebound she could have gotten etc.
On the other hand her efficiency at scoring could be better because she won't draw the toughest defender and won't have to put up as many difficult shots, but overall I think the PER goes down a little bit.

Other stats though will be better because she is playing with better teammates. Win share per 40, offensive and defensive ratings reflect how the team does while you are on the floor, so all of those should be better than her Fairfield numbers. Dorka faced a similar situation last year, her PER numbers came down a little and the more team related ones got better.
If I recall correctly, wins share was the stat usually cited for choosing Paige as POY her freshman year over Clark and Boston, etc.
 
I say she'll be a bench rider....like transfer Evelyn Adebayo ended up being.........but... I'm always....wrong... --..I thought Kia Nurse would be at most a back-up......
 
I don't understand the pessimism about Lou. Because of circumstances, she has been under the radar. I'm a little concerned about her defense, but her offense will be excellent. If defenses focus on Azzi, Lou will drain shot after shot.
 
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Only once in the past dozen years probably in his coaching years, has Geno needed and accepted (very nearly, but not) warm bodies. In that time he came very close to not having 5 to suit up. He pulled his Geno Magic and got us some very good, nice , decent kids from Europe and Uconn "competed". I'd put money on your bet! Whenever possible Geno will not accept just ANY kid. I'm sure this is one of his --I don't want anyone but the best.

My post from Aug 17 -
Aug 17, 2022 #42
Damn, now we are more doomed. LOL. I'll take our chances with what we have if another player doesn't join us by start of school. Let's play ball....
Geno may not be able to add another player by next Friday (classes resume Monday August 29), but not because he’s not trying. I don’t believe he’s simply looking for a “warm body.” If that were the case, he would have found one by now. I’m guessing he’s looking at a player(s) outside of the United States.

We have a winner!!! ;)
 
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So here is my take on why Lou will be successful where Adebayo was not... Lou will be mostly playing her natural G/F (3) position at UConn and has the size to play that position. She also looks to be pretty fit. That allows her to just focus on learning UConn basketball and getting UConn fit.

Adebayo had an additional challenge. She was really trying to not only play at UConn but the added challenge of playing as an undersized PF (4). I think if she had more time, she could have gotten in better shape and found ways to compensate but not in only one year. The size difference at her position between bball levels is huge to overcome.

Just my take...
 
Apparently, someone doesn't like you or me to be realistic in our evaluations. Neither said this is the absolute.
I'm one of those, who has seen too many hyped up incoming newbee's fall relatively parallel to the surface to get excited until they play. Caroline, could have gotten hyped from me. She is the exception arriving with out a band behind her and EARNING her minutes.
I hope Lou is all anyone thinks she can be, we need that.
No one here is pulling or rooting for Lou more than me, BUT I'm taking a "wait and see" approach to her development and play this year.
I'm somewhat familiar with her play and exploits over the last four years. Impressive as it is, it's was at a lower level where the competition and expectations were not as high as they are here and now.

I'm not for a moment suggesting that she will or may succumb to the same fortunes that Evelyn Adebayo and Natalie Butler did. The too transferred in with impressive resume's and never quite lived up the expectations Geno and fans had of them. I learned my lesson from these ladies. Just like I learned my lesson about predicting (almost guaranteeing) events when I predicted Alyiah Boston who at the time was leaning heavily towards UConn would sign with us. :confused: Here's hoping and wishing her all the best for Lou, but I'll wait and see.
 
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No one here is pulling or rooting for Lou more than me, BUT I'm taking a "wait and see" approach to her development and play this year.
I'm somewhat familiar with her play and exploits over the last four years. Impressive as it is, it's was at a lower level where the competition and expectations were not as high as they are here and now.

I'm not for a moment suggesting that she will or may succumb to the same fortunes that Evelyn Adebayo and Natalie Butler did. The too transferred in with impressive resume's and never quite lived up the expectations Geno and fans had of them. I learned my lesson from these ladies. Just like I learned my lesson about predicting (almost guaranteeing) events when I predicted Alyiah Boston who at the time was leaning heavily towards UConn would sign with us. :confused: Here's hoping and wishing her all the best for Lou, but I'll wait and see.
You can wait, but you’ll see. :p Time to board the “L” train.
 
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As a reminder … Think back to last year’s tourney. Recall the players who were Conference POYs on UCF, South Dakota, and one other team I forget. All of them impressed. Well, Lou was also the Conference POY (and 3x 1st Team All-Conference). Under the radar, but very good.
 
I don’t remember Evelyn or Natalie well. I’m hopeful and I’m not going to append the dreaded “wait and see” to it. That’s what I’m doing with the whole team. More precisely, I’m eagerly waiting to see.
 
An interesting read although a flawed one. My favorite was "she has only played against St. Johns, Indiana, Texas, and Rutgers; in total, she has played four games against these high major schools. She has played against the next tier down: UMass (twice), Seton Hall, Temple, Rhode Island, and FGCU (a strong Mid Major)". Last time I knew St. Johns and Seton Hall were both Big East schools with Seton Hall actually better than St. Johns! He might be right in his assessment but I don't think it holds any more water than other better ones I've seen.

Didn't EDD make 1st team AA playing in the Colonial Conf? Where did Jonquel Jones play?

Wait till the "experts" put out their pre-season analyses. Lou was the unanimous pick for conference POY but will be a question mark while Fletcher, the grad transfer from GT will be "a great replacement for Henderson at pg for the Gamecocks until Raven Johnson recovers from her ACL. No question there, SCar is solid at all 5 positions" :rolleyes:

Even my 8ball agrees.
 
Not that I necessarily needed to watch it for the 20th time but it looks like Lou's super long highlight video is no longer up on YouTube. It bums me out but also makes me think it's getting closer to that time of year (I e scrape all of the footage and make her impossible to scout). I have confidence in her moreso than some of the other transfers previously mentioned because of her skillset. She's a high percentage 3 point shooter and high percentage free throw shooter as well. She also has really good size.
 
As a reminder … Think back to last year’s tourney. Recall the players who were Conference POYs on UCF, South Dakota, and one other team I forget. All of them impressed. Well, Lou was also the Conference POY (and 3x 1st Team All-Conference). Under the radar, but very good.

Exactly. The same crowd that chuckled at Creighton's chances in the NCAA's. They have their P-5 noses pointed straight up.
 
No one here is pulling or rooting for Lou more than me, BUT I'm taking a "wait and see" approach to her development and play this year.
I'm somewhat familiar with her play and exploits over the last four years. Impressive as it is, it's was at a lower level where the competition and expectations were not as high as they are here and now.

I'm not for a moment suggesting that she will or may succumb to the same fortunes that Evelyn Adebayo and Natalie Butler did. The too transferred in with impressive resume's and never quite lived up the expectations Geno and fans had of them. I learned my lesson from these ladies. Just like I learned my lesson about predicting (almost guaranteeing) events when I predicted Alyiah Boston who at the time was leaning heavily towards UConn would sign with us. :confused: Here's hoping and wishing her all the best for Lou, but I'll wait and see.
You as a Sports/Basketball/Uconn Fan has views I rarely think about, mono me. However, Lou or any other kid filling a spot on Geno's roster, I, like you, want that kid to perform and well, at this much higher level.

Geno/Uconn isn't your average Basketball team or are Geno's/these ladies expected to be anything below FF in April. Tough expectation. The Men, Uconn that is, would love to have Geno's 30 game win records. Tough act to follow.

I too want Lou or Inez or any of the Freshmen to be all they can be and be winners. I've seen too many Hyped up new kids, some I'd loved to have seen winners, fail.

Ekmark, from Arizona, gave everything she had to be a starting Husky. She didn't lose by lack of effort. She went home and was successful. It was a matter of the size and kind of pond she swam in.
 
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Not that I necessarily needed to watch it for the 20th time but it looks like Lou's super long highlight video is no longer up on YouTube. It bums me out but also makes me think it's getting closer to that time of year (I e scrape all of the footage and make her impossible to scout). I have confidence in her moreso than some of the other transfers previously mentioned because of her skillset. She's a high percentage 3 point shooter and high percentage free throw shooter as well. She also has really good size.
Shooting is about having skill, eye to body/hand co-ordination, and loads of confidence. Confidence comes from at least 4 places 1. Family 2. Coach 3.SELF 4. the environment. All can change your averages.

Fairfield I'm fairly sure, didn't play in a Gampel atmosphere, or an ND, S.Carolina, BE. hostilities. You know, the fun places.

Caroline, as a Frosh, some said she shoots too often. Geno, said he wanted 6 like her. WHY? Confidence. Geno loves confidence kids. For 40 years Geno has known Kids like Caroline shall miss but shooters always find the range.
 
Shooting is about having skill, eye to body/hand co-ordination, and loads of confidence. Confidence comes from at least 4 places 1. Family 2. Coach 3.SELF 4. the environment. All can change your averages.

Fairfield I'm fairly sure, didn't play in a Gampel atmosphere, or an ND, S.Carolina, BE. hostilities. You know, the fun places.

Caroline, as a Frosh, some said she shoots too often. Geno, said he wanted 6 like her. WHY? Confidence. Geno loves confidence kids. For 40 years Geno has known Kids like Caroline shall miss but shooters always find the range.
 
You as a Sports/Basketball/Uconn Fan has views I rarely think about, mono me. However, Lou or any other kid filling a spot on Geno's roster, I, like you, want that kid to perform and well, at this much higher level.

Geno/Uconn isn't your average Basketball team or are Geno's/these ladies expected to be anything below FF in April. Tough expectation. The Men, Uconn that is, would love to have Geno's 30 game win records. Tough act to follow.

I too want Lou or Inez or any of the Freshmen to be all they can be and be winners. I've seen too many Hyped up new kids, some I'd loved to have seen winners, fail.

Ekmark, from Arizona, gave everything she had to be a starting Husky. She didn't lose by lack of effort. She went home and was successful. It was a matter of the size and kind of pond she swam in.

Unlike Ekmark, Lou has played 4 years of college ball. The MAAC conference is better than Ekmark's high school conference.

Did you discount what EDD did at Delaware in the Colonial conference?

Lou was a big fish in a smaller pond and the unanimous best player in the conference. Fairfield played an offense that was similar to what UConn does. Jonquel Jones played her entire college career at a "smaller conference" and she ended up being pretty good. The P-5 is littered with mediocre wcbb programs and there are always great players among the non-P5.

Who knows? But I'll trust the UConn staff to make those decisions.
 
I think for the most part open shooting translates across all levels of play. Lou has a proven track record in that regard. Open 3's and free throws should be considered a given for her, not a question mark. At a minimum she should be a very good shooter when she is open.

The question marks are more about her ability to score on her own and create her own shot, which she did all the time at Fairfield against much weaker competition. On the downside the team and individual defenders she plays against this year will be much better , and she won't have as many plays run for her, because she will no longer be the #1 offensive option.

On the other hand she will not be the prime focus of opposing defenses, and their top perimeter defender is more likely to be on Azzi or Caroline, not her. Because of Uconn's other weapons she may get more, not less open looks. Overall IMO the expectation compared to her scoring stats from last year is she will be as efficient, probably better because of not needing to force as many two's, but with significantly lower volume. If she does that she should fit nicely into the offense.
 
Your Last Sentence---
Unlike Ekmark, Lou has played 4 years of college ball. The MAAC conference is better than Ekmark's high school conference.

Did you discount what EDD did at Delaware in the Colonial conference?

Lou was a big fish in a smaller pond and the unanimous best player in the conference. Fairfield played an offense that was similar to what UConn does. Jonquel Jones played her entire college career at a "smaller conference" and she ended up being pretty good. The P-5 is littered with mediocre wcbb programs and there are always great players among the non-P5.

Who knows? But I'll trust the UConn staff to make those decisions.
EDD to me is a NEVER UConn. Never played at Uconn. Great player, but never a Husky.
A few of player came to Uconn with fanfare above their ability to play at this level.
I sincerely hope LOU is all many hope she will be. Uconn certainly can use another great shooting, driving, dishing guard. We'll see.
I agree with your last comment. They have inspiring comments when those players leave. Perfection, Geno says, is to be thrived for not to be achieved---even in selecting new players.
 
I think for the most part open shooting translates across all levels of play. Lou has a proven track record in that regard. Open 3's and free throws should be considered a given for her, not a question mark. At a minimum she should be a very good shooter when she is open.

The question marks are more about her ability to score on her own and create her own shot, which she did all the time at Fairfield against much weaker competition. On the downside the team and individual defenders she plays against this year will be much better , and she won't have as many plays run for her, because she will no longer be the #1 offensive option.

On the other hand she will not be the prime focus of opposing defenses, and their top perimeter defender is more likely to be on Azzi or Caroline, not her. Because of Uconn's other weapons she may get more, not less open looks. Overall IMO the expectation compared to her scoring stats from last year is she will be as efficient, probably better because of not needing to force as many two's, but with significantly lower volume. If she does that she should fit nicely into the offense.
I agree, and I've stated it often: Basketball players, with lots of experience, that play at a high lever, regardless of their opponents --often can-- play at any level. CONFIDENCE
and ability are hard to beat.
All I have seen of Lou is a 4 minute clip. If you have seen all you say, good, then you have a better view of Lou than I have had. For me it is still ---a wait and see. Again, I sincerely hope EVERY new recruit is the recreation of Sue, Swin, DT, Maya, Rene, Stewie, Dolson, Kiah---that would thrill me. I follow this team when the lose and when they win--for 40 years, I won't stop watching because Lou doesn't pan out.
 
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I think for the most part open shooting translates across all levels of play. Lou has a proven track record in that regard. Open 3's and free throws should be considered a given for her, not a question mark. At a minimum she should be a very good shooter when she is open.

The question marks are more about her ability to score on her own and create her own shot, which she did all the time at Fairfield against much weaker competition. On the downside the team and individual defenders she plays against this year will be much better , and she won't have as many plays run for her, because she will no longer be the #1 offensive option.

On the other hand she will not be the prime focus of opposing defenses, and their top perimeter defender is more likely to be on Azzi or Caroline, not her. Because of Uconn's other weapons she may get more, not less open looks. Overall IMO the expectation compared to her scoring stats from last year is she will be as efficient, probably better because of not needing to force as many two's, but with significantly lower volume. If she does that she should fit nicely into the offense.
I totally agree. The only other factor is add is whether she can play good enough D to keep her on the floor long enough to get all those open looks.

I might compare her to KML, who was also dynamite on O and often the weak defensive link — from lack of foot speed not lack of effort — but regularly played 30+ mins. The difference might be that KML was very crafty on D and often made up for speed issues that way.
EDD to me is a NEVER UConn. Never played at Uconn. Great player, but never a Husky.
I think you're conceding @Alydar 's point here. He wasn't calling EDD a Husky. He was merely responding to the complaints about Lou that because she played in a lesser conference we couldn't expect her to have real talent. EDD is the refutation of this claim.

And I agree that the P 5 conferences are excellent at self promotion, somewhat les excellent at WBB.
 
EDD is the refutation of this claim.
Or is she the exception that proves the rule?

I fully believe that Lou can play at this level, otherwise there’s no way that Geno and Chris offer her a scholarship. Like others have said, knowing her role in the UConn defense may be challenging initially. Bottom line, the kid is a scorer and opposing teams won’t be able to lay off her, which in turn will open up things for others on the team.
 
Or is she the exception that proves the rule?

I fully believe that Lou can play at this level, otherwise there’s no way that Geno and Chris offer her a scholarship. Like others have said, knowing her role in the UConn defense may be challenging initially. Bottom line, the kid is a scorer and opposing teams won’t be able to lay off her, which in turn will open up things for others on the team.
Either way, the rule is not reliable for all cases. And I share your belief that Lou will not disappoint. Opponents won't be able to cover all our shooters. This has been the Stanford formula for the last few years, too. No one doubled Brink in the paint because of the perimeter shooters, and she was unleashed.
 
Either way, the rule is not reliable for all cases. And I share your belief that Lou will not disappoint. Opponents won't be able to cover all our shooters. This has been the Stanford formula for the last few years, too. No one doubled Brink in the paint because of the perimeter shooters, and she was unleashed.
The question I have is how long it will take her to adjust high major talent guarding her? UConn’s excellent ball movement will do a lot to help that.
 
The question I have is how long it will take her to adjust high major talent guarding her? UConn’s excellent ball movement will do a lot to help that.
Yup. Watched a few Dolson-Stewie games last weekend and the ball movement was lightning fast. It may take Lou a little time to get used to quick ball movement. One thing they lacked at Fairfield was a quick point guard, which is the case at most of those schools.
 
Or is she the exception that proves the rule?

I fully believe that Lou can play at this level, otherwise there’s no way that Geno and Chris offer her a scholarship. Like others have said, knowing her role in the UConn defense may be challenging initially. Bottom line, the kid is a scorer and opposing teams won’t be able to lay off her, which in turn will open up things for others on the team.
Only the Pope is "infallible" and I often doubt him. I won't try to list ALL those Misses (take that both ways) that Geno and staff (I leave Christine out of it, she never misses), have accumulated. Don't expect perfection in this life. Geno was sold by the wording of her Fairfield Coach. Coachable.
 
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