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Losing at Baylor would be the best thing to happen to UConn

reno tony said:
Does anyone think it would be a great idea to beat Baylor and allow them to have this learning experience?
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Losing is never a good thing. Hopefully, coming off a long layoff UCONN won't be as rusty as they were against Oklahoma. If they are it won't be pretty.
 
veryolddog said:
Why don't you tell the U.S. Marines to go out and lose one.
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Marines have been overwhelmed by numbers and didn't win--they will never lose; In many skirmishes, they have died to a man and never gave up. Go to US Joint Hospital in Bethesda and see what they gave, never willingly.
 
willtalk said:
Losing would probably benefit the fans more than the team.
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Geno uses : A loss would be good for this team as a motivational tool. He is like you me and 100,000 UCWBB fans: WE HATE TO LOSE.
 
PAHuskeyFan said:
Completely agree..:):cool::D let Baylor "learn from losing"... and UCONN "learn from winning"...against the "bigs" of Baylor...a different type of team for them to play. Learn from how they beat them and how they will use what they learned from that against Baylor or MSST should they meet them later... GO HUSKIES!!! Merry Christmas Team~ :cool::D
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You sound like General Patton: You win; let the other guy lose for his Univerity (paraphrasing loosely)
 
connboy77 said:
Losing is never a good thing. Hopefully, coming off a long layoff UCONN won't be as rusty as they were against Oklahoma. If they are it won't be pretty.
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Yeah Baylor has a tune-up game on New Year's Eve vs. "UTRGV" (University of Texas Rio Grande Valley - whaa??) to knock their rust off. Hopefully we show them that, "You can't practice against this" speed and intensity.
 
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Tonyc said:
This UConn program is so good its mindboggleing. Over the past few years we've had 2 heart breaking losses both in the FF and both in overtime and in both we were in foul trouble which I question for a team that very seldom is in foul trouble. We dont need another Heart Breaking Loss. If we've havent learned by now and I think we have this season judging from the Cal St Johns OK and especially the ND where we showed what we're made of. Because of those games I think we're ready to win another NC.
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TonyC --Nice sentiment, nice thoughts--2 losses in how many games is truly mind-boggling, in that they happened in the FF is only of consequent in that it kept UC from winning 2 more titles. The number/stats guys should be presenting the win to lose ratio that presents that is fantastic.
My concern is the big-known weakness Uconn has had still exists as it had been in the 2 losses: Effective subs. Subs that, while not Danger, KLS, or Napheesa clones can come in not allow the opponent to increase their score and no hurt the team on the floor.
I know my concerns may fade away by the end of March, I hope. But you can't work in March on those things that now require attention--a lack of talented, effective subs.
I'm sure Geno, like me, dreams that his 5 are as good as they currently are and that he had CW and Meg Walker as subs--dream, dream, dream..
Tonyc--Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous New Year, thanks for a season of great posts.
 
PAHuskeyFan said:
30 years Active Duty, guess I learned a thing or two from history and great military leaders in our past.:):)
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Im a wartime Army/Navy type--I respect all who followed their duty of honor, duty country--I have a big spot in my heart for the Marines, for reasons. Your duty honors me. Merry Christmas and May your New Year be all you desire, you've earned it.
 
BroadwayVa said:
Im a wartime Army/Navy type--I respect all who followed their duty of honor, duty country--I have a big spot in my heart for the Marines, for reasons. Your duty honors me. Merry Christmas and May your New Year be all you desire, you've earned it.
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Thanks, Broadway... appreciate the sentiment. I too honor you for your service...but I'm having a hard time with the "Army/Navy type"...my experience, Army only considers Navy to be their "water taxi" to get them to the fight... (kidding of course)... Each branch plays vital roles in support of our Country, hmmmm just like our Huskies...each plays a vital role in the Team's Success. Merry Christmas and have a Fantastic New Year. Maybe we will toast a NC in April???
 
Being undefeated is not a big burden on these young women... that is all they know...

The tournament is the SECOND season and will have its own pressure.. lose and go home.. The 2 overtime losses in the final 4 is much more Pressure than being undefeated, and will not go away with a loss to anybody.

losing is for losers
 
Plebe said:
I'll put this out there, playing devil's advocate. On Dec. 4, 2016, South Carolina played a nonconference game at Duke. SC had control of the game early on. But at some point in the 2nd quarter, Dawn subbed out Wilson and some other starters, promptly lost the momentum and the lead, and ended up losing the game. Dawn acknowledged postgame that she was "trying to develop her bench" and lost the game because of it.

Four months later, South Carolina was celebrating its win in the national championship game.
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I’m trying to determine if you are aligning yourself with the “it would be good to lose” crowd or acknowledging Geno’s use of subs with well thought out. (Interpretive statement: Did South Carolina win it all because they lost or because Dawn learned a lesson about subs).
 
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Yorkeez4 said:
I’m trying to determine if you are aligning yourself with the “it would be good to lose” crowd or acknowledging Geno’s use of subs with well thought out. (Interpretive statement: Did South Carolina win it all because they lost or because Dawn learned a lesson about subs).
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I occasionally enjoy some purposeful ambivalence. :)
 
PAHuskeyFan said:
Thanks, Broadway... appreciate the sentiment. I too honor you for your service...but I'm having a hard time with the "Army/Navy type"...my experience, Army only considers Navy to be their "water taxi" to get them to the fight... (kidding of course)... Each branch plays vital roles in support of our Country, hmmmm just like our Huskies...each plays a vital role in the Team's Success. Merry Christmas and have a Fantastic New Year. Maybe we will toast a NC in April???
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Between WW2 and Korea, with the war mentality, I joined the Army , When Korea came along I Joined the Naval Air served with a Jet fighter Squadron then aboard the Yorktown. The only taxi-ing we did was for take-off. When I'm not a patient my wife spends much of her time, spare or not, doing something for the Vets/Deployed local kids.

Again may you and your family stay as safe and sound as you have me life for me. Merry Christmas.
 
river rat said:
Being undefeated is not a big burden on these young women... that is all they know...

The tournament is the SECOND season and will have its own pressure.. lose and go home.. The 2 overtime losses in the final 4 is much more Pressure than being undefeated, and will not go away with a loss to anybody.

losing is for losers
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Who was it? Lombardi (?) that said: Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser!
 
PAHuskeyFan said:
I cant help wondering if the overall reaction to this thread would have been better if the title were worded something like, "Losing at Baylor wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen".... rather than "...losing would be the best thing..."
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Changing the wording --still comes out losing in the title of thread--I hate losing.
I'd like it better had it said something like" When we beat the pants off of Baylor what will they say about losing??
 
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BroadwayVa said:
Changing the wording --still comes out losing in the title of thread--I hate losing.
I'd like it better had it said something like" When we beat the pants off of Baylor what will they say about losing??
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Right On, Right On.
As of today, Massey has this game at UCONN 74, Baylor 71, 59% UCONN win, 41% Baylor win. And not much happening between now and then to change that, except Baylor playing another Pastry Product on New Years Eve. Predicted score is a little close for "comfort"... but In Geno We Trust...and In UCONN WBB We Trust.
 
Centerstream said:
So? There's no bonus points for being #1 in any poll. The only real goal is to be #1 after the NC Game!!!!!!! Head bang:rolleyes:
Unless of course being #1 entering the Big Dance guarantees the NC.
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Really, thanks for telling me that. I was under the impression that it did. my bad.;)

The real reason I posted that is that I can't stomach Muffet and her crew sailing though the next few months at the top of the polls. I wouldn't like it if Baylor did, but ND....NO way. :eek:
 
Husker Husky said:
Really, thanks for telling me that. I was under the impression that it did. my bad.;)

The real reason I posted that is that I can't stomach Muffet and her crew sailing though the next few months at the top of the polls. I wouldn't like it if Baylor did, but ND....NO way. :eek:
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I apologize...I dislike EVERYTHING about ND!!!!!!! I really hope that Louisville demolishes them at least one more time this year.
 
PAHuskeyFan said:
Right On, Right On.
As of today, Massey has this game at UCONN 74, Baylor 71, 59% UCONN win, 41% Baylor win. And not much happening between now and then to change that, except Baylor playing another Pastry Product on New Years Eve. Predicted score is a little close for "comfort"... but In Geno We Trust...and In UCONN WBB We Trust.
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Geno has, in the past, used effectively a 3 guard offense/defense against tall teams and survived. That approach fits this team. While I am encouraged by Massey's prediction-Uconn still has to play the game with NO bench. I'd love to be totally wrong and have ONO get in and if not dominate (don't laugh) just give Napheesa, KLS, Walker, CW, Danger a few minutes respite --that would be great. I doubt that will happen. Still I think Geno will give ONO and Coombs 2 minutes in the game, more if they succeed (i.e. not foul and play well). This 2 minutes per big game is Geno's design of teaching the dog paddle before the breast stroke to make olympic swimmers. At first I was more than miffed with that --but he knows more about how to teach timid players he needs these kids.
 
Oldbones said:
History would suggest no benefit to a single regular-season loss

Ten unbeaten regular seasons:

UCONN finished the regular season unbeaten in 1995, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2009, 2010, 2014, 2016, 2017, and 2018, winning the NC in seven of those ten years (Losing in 1997 after a major injury, and also the past two years, taking a BE semifinal loss to Villanova in 2003 but prevailing in the NCAAs)

Four single-loss regular seasons:

UCONN took a "Fortuitous" regular season loss four times: to Tennessee(by 1 point on a buzzer-beater IIRC) in the 2000 season, to Rutgers in 2008, to Stanford in 2010-2011, and to Stanford again in 2015, winning the NC in 2000 and 2015, losing in 2008 and 2011, succeeding twice in four instances. You can argue the 2003 loss to Villanova into whatever category you want, but the Rutgers loss in 2008 and the Stanford loss in 2010-2011 were ultimately no help. I remember the relief felt in December 2010 when Stanford ended the 90-game winning streak, but there would still be no NC.
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I do not think that losing would be an asset. I would very much like to see Olivia play more. From what I saw on replay, she was just fine. Her presence is needed and more play will make her better. She has the 'stuff' that the real good ones have. She must play and she will improve. Coombs and Irwin could have given some moments, but Olivia can be the real deal.
 
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RockyMTblue2 said:
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BackBay said:
I'll put it out there. I think if UConn enters the tourney undefeated for 3 straight years (!), there will be unbelievable extra pressure on all the players. Losing a regular season game will be a sigh of relief for the players (& Geno). Also, a loss at Baylor wont change their ranking much if at all. At Baylor, seems to be the best candidate. Of course, you dont want to intentionally lose, but maybe if Geno plays his bench more minutes...
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In the past, Geno has often tackled this very topic. I suspect that in a very narrowly defined context he would agree with you.

The "old" Bone Yarders are missing the point...it's not about learning from the loss (losing is for losers-Geno would agree)..it's about eliminating useless, to the point of distracting, pressure off the team.
 
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Just one point of information. UConn does not play another game til Jan 3 at Baylor. They should have enough rest and they wont be on the road travelling as much. They may be a little rusty against Baylor and Baylor without true point guards and inexperienced underclassman...well I dont think UConn should have to many problems. Uconn has to stay out of foul trouble.
 
Grad1990 said:
In the past, Geno has often tackled this very topic. I suspect that in a very narrowly defined context he would agree with you.

The "old" Bone Yarders are missing the point...it's not about learning from the loss (losing is for losers-Geno would agree)..it's about eliminating useless, to the point of distracting, pressure off the team.
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I'll never understand how losing a game takes pressure off the next one and the next and the .... I understand a loss being a potential motivator, but taking pressure off, that I don't get. Now, lose 6 or 7 and the pressure is really off.
 
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