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2024 Recruiting: Liam McNeeley

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ShakyTheMohel

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I'm going to approach Yum Brands about creating a Burger King All-American team and they can compete with McDonald's to see later on which team eventually produces the best players and which players....flamed out. ;)
if you did that…they would be confused. Yum doesn’t own Burger King….Restaurant Brands International does. Yum’s big chains are Taco Bell, KFC and Pizza Hut.
 
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"So, I'm really focused on McDonald's and then later this week I'm focused on the Chipotle Nationals. So, I'm not really worrying about recruiting now and it will be after all of that."

The nationals were just a week ago, people need to chill out.
 
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Personally, I could care less about "McDonald's All American" status -

How do you measure how much less you could care?

I say pour a drink, kick your fett up, and let the good times roll.

#fettkickingood

You’re definitely not the first to question if we’re recruiting him, so to be clear: the dude said himself we’re recruiting him and every single solitary indication is that we are actively recruiting him.

I enter a thread for the first time, and it's closing in on 500 posts, so I jump to the most recent and then back up 1 page.

Am I up to date?
Have I missed anything?
 
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He’ll schedule campus visits once the Jordan Classic in Brooklyn concludes. Game is set for this coming Sunday with star studded rosters.
Our own Ahmad Nowell is scheduled to play in the game.


 
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FWIW:


“Keep hearing loads of UConn and Kansas chatter for McNeeley. Ky was very much in it until the coaching change. May still be.”
I thought I saw somewhere that Kansas was fading after everyone thought he going there Immediately de committed from IU
 
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I thought I saw somewhere that Kansas was fading after everyone thought he going there Immediately de committed from IU
Would make sense as if they were the silver medalist first time around, you’d think it would be a quick decision for him. But he could be waiting to see what Furphy does. I honesty don’t see what scouts see in Furphy.

Not sure how UM would be a major player, new coach and full reset. Arkansas not much different. AZ is bleeding players to the portal and who wants to play along Caleb?

He gets to play with Nowell this weekend in BK, could be a nice way to ingratiate himself with his future PG, and learn more about the right reasons to make a choice.

This kid would seem like a total catch and shoot kind of player, which the Hurley system does well with.
 
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Would make sense as if they were the silver medalist first time around, you’d think it would be a quick decision for him. But he could be waiting to see what Furphy does. I honesty don’t see what scouts see in Furphy.

Not sure how UM would be a major player, new coach and full reset. Arkansas not much different. AZ is bleeding players to the portal and who wants to play along Caleb?

He gets to play with Nowell this weekend in BK, could be a nice way to ingratiate himself with his future PG, and learn more about the right reasons to make a choice.

This kid would seem like a total catch and shoot kind of player, which the Hurley system does well with.
Hopefully Ahmad tosses him some nice dimes Brooklyn to remind him
 

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Agreed. Need another pure guard in there. Reminds me of 2022 when we had Martin, Jackson, and Whaley in the starting lineup. That was pretty much 2 SFs and a PF. Last season we had two pure guards in Newton and Hawkins. This season we had 3 pure guards in the Newton, Spencer, and Castle. I have a very hard time believing Stewart comes off the bench next year but Diarra, Ball, and McNeeley at the 1/2/3 is very well rounded.
Expecting Nowell to get serious minutes at guard next season. Cannot see him not in the mix.
 

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Based on the last few years the difference between our 6th man and a starter is minimal. And our backup center will get 15 minutes. It’s 8-9 where the difference between 5 and 15 minutes is whether Hurley trusts them.
 
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Expecting Nowell to get serious minutes at guard next season. Cannot see him not in the mix.

I expect a minimum of 20 MPG from Nowell. I know he’s the real deal. Very much a Hurley type-player.

Expect him to start

It wouldn’t shock me. I could see Nowell starting and him/Diarra both getting 20+ minutes a night.
 
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Nowell starting is probably not ideal. The top 5 teams (and 8 of the 11 total) in the Big East last season all started senior or COVID 5th year point guards. The 3 who didn't started sophomores: Nova (Armstrong), Providence (Pierre, but you could argue junior Carter was their PG), and Georgetown (Epps).

All 3 missed the tournament. 2 of those 3 were pretty decent disappointments (finished significantly lower than preseason KenPom). Providence had the Hopkins injury, but also Carter played much better than expected and they still finished below preseason KenPom. In the portal and COVID 5th year era, experience at PG is King. Newton was senior and 5th year for our 2 championships.
 

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Nowell starting is probably not ideal. The top 5 teams (and 8 of the 11 total) in the Big East last season all started senior or COVID 5th year point guards. The 3 who didn't started sophomores: Nova (Armstrong), Providence (Pierre, but you could argue junior Carter was their PG), and Georgetown (Epps).

All 3 missed the tournament. 2 of those 3 were pretty decent disappointments (finished significantly lower than preseason KenPom). Providence had the Hopkins injury, but also Carter played much better than expected and they still finished below preseason KenPom. In the portal and COVID 5th year era, experience at PG is King. Newton was senior and 5th year for our 2 championships.

It's not that cut and dry. You start your best options. You start the players who earn it. Players who have talent, fit your game model and give you the best chance to win. Experience is great, but experience for experience sake doesn't pay the bills. I mean we just started a Freshman all year who locked down all those "experienced" guards you mentioned including Carter. Nowell isn't Pierre, Armstrong, Epps. Older teams definitely have shown out but there is room in this game for impact Frosh, and Nowell could absolutely be one of them.
 

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OT from McNeeley, but Diarra was rated as the 34th best player in the country according to EvanMiya. The "play the best players" argument doesn't break in Nowell's favor unless he has a Steph level freshman season or you really mean "play the most talented players regardless of production"

Maybe Diarra doesn't start because he's extremely valuable in the 6th man role, but to me that's overthinking it. Kemba's freshman year he came off the bench and played 25 mpg, only starting twice when Price was injured. That's the blueprint I'd follow.
 

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Nowell starting is probably not ideal. The top 5 teams (and 8 of the 11 total) in the Big East last season all started senior or COVID 5th year point guards. The 3 who didn't started sophomores: Nova (Armstrong), Providence (Pierre, but you could argue junior Carter was their PG), and Georgetown (Epps).

All 3 missed the tournament. 2 of those 3 were pretty decent disappointments (finished significantly lower than preseason KenPom). Providence had the Hopkins injury, but also Carter played much better than expected and they still finished below preseason KenPom. In the portal and COVID 5th year era, experience at PG is King. Newton was senior and 5th year for our 2 championships.
Good research. I wasn't thinking of him as always playing Pt guard; just in the mix as a ballhandler and a defender. Someone pointed out that we may be playing a deeper rotation next year and I tend to agree with that. I'm told both recruits are very good defenders so we might see more pressing and running/transition. I was hoping to see that in the recent past but we wore down our opponents making them run all over trying to defend our offense in the half court! Maybe one more portal guy and McNeeley and I can picture Hurley staying up late in the evening fiendishly working out plans to bring destruction on our opponents again (and again!). I thought waiting for last year to arrive was agonizing. I'll just have to do some fishing and keep up with the BY.
 
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OT from McNeeley, but Diarra was rated as the 34th best player in the country according to EvanMiya. The "play the best players" argument doesn't break in Nowell's favor unless he has a Steph level freshman season or you really mean "play the most talented players regardless of production"

Maybe Diarra doesn't start because he's extremely valuable in the 6th man role, but to me that's overthinking it. Kemba's freshman year he came off the bench and played 25 mpg, only starting twice when Price was injured. That's the blueprint I'd follow.
I don’t know how valuable I think that kind of overall player ranking is, but it’s a striking number nonetheless. Now, realize how many of those 35 won’t be playing college ball next year and the thought that Hass won’t be one of the five best players on our team strikes me as truly bizarre. If, as the season wears on, Nowell and Ball are both better than him, well, that would be great. But I don’t think that’s where the smart money is.
 
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