but is Duke without Coach K really Duke?
There was a reason why his visit was an unofficial. It was a courtesy visit.make that 2 crystal balls
Didn’t seem to enamored either. It is what it isThere was a reason why his visit was an unofficial. It was a courtesy visit.
Akok Block was one of the best IMO.Was really hoping he'd come to UConn just so I could scream "Fill it Upski" when he scored. Alas, will maintain vigilance in my search for other recruit puns...![]()
Akok BoukAkok Block was one of the best IMO.
What is this? You want more than that?
With Karaban we could say the opponent was "Karabanned" when the winning shot drops.......Was really hoping he'd come to UConn just so I could scream "Fill it Upski" when he scored. Alas, will maintain vigilance in my search for other recruit puns...![]()
Not comparing Scheyer to K as a BB coach.. But..As a recruiter for K..Scheyer has been his lead guy for awhile. Wouldn't underestimate him as legit comp on the recruiting side of things. Zion was one of his recruiting successes..
That’s like saying Shabazz came here because of Kevin OllieNot comparing Scheyer to K as a BB coach.. But..As a recruiter for K..Scheyer has been his lead guy for awhile. Wouldn't underestimate him as legit comp on the recruiting side of things. Zion was one of his recruiting successes..
Not really..Scheyer has been associated with many of Duke's recruiting successes. Not sure you can say the same about Ollie. IIRC. .Ollie was never JC's lead recruiter. Big difference.That’s like saying Shabazz came here because of Kevin Ollie
Never said Zion went to Duke to play for Scheyer. Said Scheyer was the lead recruiter for K on Zion and many others.If you don't think assistant coaches don't have an impact on recruiting certain players --I'm surprised. You don't think Murray isn't impacting some of the recruits coming through Storrs to look at our Program?The “lead guy” who worked for the best college coach of all time. You think Zion went to Duke for the opportunity to play for Jon Scheyer?
(He might very well crush it as head coach, and it’s not like they’re going to fall off the map, but it’s silly to say that Duke’s recruiting in the post-K era won’t be a little different.)
Expecting that to happen more and more during the Dan Hurley Era at UConn.I have not seen he has committed anywhere. You guys are scared. You think Dan Hurley has stopped recruiting him? Let's take on the big boys and beat them to a pulp. Like the old days, we will beat them with who we have.
I think the point is we really have no idea how good a recruiter Scheyer is because he’s been selling easily the most desirable product in the game—playing at Duke for arguably the most revered coach in the history of the game. That is not a tough sell to teenagers wanting to play college basketball, and most likely many assistants in the game could’ve done what he’s done at Duke to this point.Never said Zion went to Duke to play for Scheyer. Said Scheyer was the lead recruiter for K on Zion and many others.If you don't think assistant coaches don't have an impact on recruiting certain players --I'm surprised. You don't think Murray isn't impacting some of the recruits coming through Storrs to look at our Program?
My point in bringing up Scheyer at all is the fact that one of his talents is as a recruiter. Of course it helps to have a HOF coach as a head coach as it was with JC.
Very good assessment of the situation. It’s like being nick sabans lead recruiter at Alabama . It’s a tough job and hard work but you get your foot in every door and it isn’t an indicator of future success.I think the point is we really have no idea how good a recruiter Scheyer is because he’s been selling easily the most desirable product in the game—playing at Duke for arguably the most revered coach in the history of the game. That is not a tough sell to teenagers wanting to play college basketball, and most likely many assistants in the game could’ve done what he’s done at Duke to this point.
He may very well end up doing a great job with the program, but you can be sure that up until now he could’ve left Duke at any point and they would not have lost one single recruit because of it.
How desirable Duke remains without Coach K remains to be seen. If other similar situations are any indicator, it seems like there’ll likely be some early inertia that keeps high level recruits coming in the door (maybe not classes filled with top of 10 recruits like they’ve done), but they’ll start losing 5 stars if he doesn’t knock it out of the park off the bat.
For certain, my comment was a little tongue in cheek. Merely I was saying that Jon Scheyer isn’t closing kids over every other school based on his personal pedigree.Not really..Scheyer has been associated with many of Duke's recruiting successes. Not sure you can say the same about Ollie. IIRC. .Ollie was never JC's lead recruiter. Big difference.
Bazz decision to come to UConn had little if any impact from Ollie.
Agree with you. When it's all said and done. Coaches have to be able to coach.I think the point is we really have no idea how good a recruiter Scheyer is because he’s been selling easily the most desirable product in the game—playing at Duke for arguably the most revered coach in the history of the game. That is not a tough sell to teenagers wanting to play college basketball, and most likely many assistants in the game could’ve done what he’s done at Duke to this point.
He may very well end up doing a great job with the program, but you can be sure that up until now he could’ve left Duke at any point and they would not have lost one single recruit because of it.
How desirable Duke remains without Coach K remains to be seen. If other similar situations are any indicator, it seems like there’ll likely be some early inertia that keeps high level recruits coming in the door (maybe not classes filled with top of 10 recruits like they’ve done), but they’ll start losing 5 stars if he doesn’t knock it out of the park off the bat.
Unofficial is on the recruit's dime. Official is on ours. Hurley is concentrating on the northeast. High level recruits will save their officials for more distant schools.Does Unofficial vs. Official matter much these days? I understand what is allowed on each, but in terms of "commitment towards certain schools?"
Just seems like we're doing so many unofficial visits that it's hard to gauge the interest levels to a degree
Or you could use the same phrase when someone tries to dunk on him and gets blocked and he says "don't bring that contraband in here"With Karaban we could say the opponent was "Karabanned" when the winning shot drops.......