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neutral_site said:
Once again....Peters is a very average post on a very, very good passing team. Rarely, if ever, does Peters face a double-team.

You guys are making excuses, and I'm trying to get a handle on "why".
Seems I recall Dolson was a "freshman post", and a chunky one at that??
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Peters is not an average post. She is solid. She was the Big East Defensive player of the year. She is not Griner who is once in a generation player. Your view here is completely bogus as Milford has pointed out.

Returning to the point of the thread everyone had moments last night when they were great and ones they had brain farts. Kiah overall played very well, really well. She has a great up side and solid future at CT.
 
Saw Kiah on the NBC news this morning. They didn't broadcast the question, but it must have been of the "How does it feel" variety, because her response was [slightly paraphrasing], "It's hard to explain how this feels, but I know I don't ever want to feel it again."

I think this kid is gonna work hard in the off-season.....
 
Kiah was one of the brightest spots in the game last night. I feel SO MUCH better about next year, knowing she can play with that kind of confidence.
 
Kait14 said:
You're clearly trolling.. Have a nice day
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I don't troll.

Read the other posts on other threads by me; no trolling. None.

If you can't be objective, both positive and negative, I can't help you much there.

I'll make another statement you won't like:

Getting caught up in self-hype by the fans is a sure way to go the way of Tennessee Women's basketball over the last four years.

Fan's make excuses for their favorite players, coaches start throwing players under the bus, get complacent in recruiting, on and on....

UConn is not going that path; it can, if that's what you want.

What this team got really hurt by in this game was foul trouble, and when certain players where in the game, they were no threat offensively because her teammates didn't have much confidence in getting her the ball.

Now YOU get off MY back and answer why that is at the end of a near-40 game season by the top basketball program year in and year out in modern women's basketball.

THAT is my case.
 
neutral_site said:
If you can't be objective, both positive and negative, I can't help you much there.

I'll make another statement you won't like:

Getting caught up in self-hype by the fans is a sure way to go the way of Tennessee Women's basketball over the last four years.

Fan's make excuses for their favorite players, coaches start throwing players under the bus, get complacent in recruiting, on and on....

UConn is not going that path; it can, if that's what you want.

Now YOU get off MY back and answer why that is at the end of a near-40 game season by the top basketball program year in and year out in modern women's basketball.

THAT is my case.
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Well, so much to address...

First of all, I don't know why you think we need to be objective. Certainly, many here will be objective but it's not required. If that's one of your requirements, perhaps another board would suit you better?

Secondly, what the fans ramble on about - minutes/hours after a loss, mind you - has zero affect on the team. We'd love to have that much influence but, alas, it's Geno that runs the show, not us.

Thirdly, if you gave us fans a day or so to digest the disappointment you'd find a different set of posts but instead you choose to judge us on what you see right after a loss. I would appreciate it if you could ratchet back on the hostility while people are still dealing with their disappointment. It's a tad grating to essentially be told to suck it up by someone who doesn't care about the team like we do.
 
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HuskyNan said:
Well, so much to address...

Secondly, what the fans ramble on about - minutes/hours after a loss, mind you - has zero affect on the team. We'd love to have that much influence but, alas, it's Geno that runs the show, not us.
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Boneyarders ramble????

We'd prefer the terms analyze, discuss, dissect, debate, even pontificate; but ramble??? Never!

:)
 
neutral_site said:
Okay, seriously, this is UConn basketball at the end of the season, and you're saying this??

What I'm seeing is the UConn guards REALLY hesitate to feed her the ball...and the entire UConn offense wilts.

Look, I follow more than one team...and if should be getting more out of a Mickey D's all-american at this stage of the season.
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seriously? wow. it's been a while since i saw a real maroon on the board.

Brianna Banks was a HS AA as well. she played in one of the AA games, but not the other. and she dind't get any playing time in the final 4 game.

Aside from KML and E Williams, not a single freshman recruit averaged anywhere near 10 PPG or had a "huge" impact. Morgan Jones, from Northwestern, was probably the 3rd best freshman. Massengale started most of her games at Tennessee and couldn't even reach 8 PPG. Bria Smith started all 32 games for L'ville and averaged 9 PPG. Logic started all 31 games for Iowa and averaged 9 PPG.

other than that, not a single player had better numbers than Kiah if you extrapolate production per minute played. Forthan, Canty, Laney, Burdick, Hartman, Hammond, etc etc. were all mostly rated higher than Kiah. some averaged less minutes, several averaged more. i wouldn't trade Kiah for any of them. i guess by your logic, outside of 5 or so players, the entire freshman class is a bust.

i think i'll pay more attention to intelligent posters in the future.
 
Bria Goss was the second leading scorer on Kentucky at 11.0 ppg. She may well have been the third leading freshman scorer in the nation. Unlike the prior year, not so many frosh made impacts this season. The year before, we had Hartley, Dolson, Ogwumike, Gray, Sims, Schimmel, Lucas, Thomas, Simmons,et al.
 
UCONNfan1 said:
seriously? wow. it's been a while since i saw a real maroon on the board.

Brianna Banks was a HS AA as well. she played in one of the AA games, but not the other. and she dind't get any playing time in the final 4 game.

Aside from KML and E Williams, not a single freshman recruit averaged anywhere near 10 PPG or had a "huge" impact. Morgan Jones, from Northwestern, was probably the 3rd best freshman. Massengale started most of her games at Tennessee and couldn't even reach 8 PPG. Bria Smith started all 32 games for L'ville and averaged 9 PPG. Logic started all 31 games for Iowa and averaged 9 PPG.

other than that, not a single player had better numbers than Kiah if you extrapolate production per minute played. Forthan, Canty, Laney, Burdick, Hartman, Hammond, etc etc. were all mostly rated higher than Kiah. some averaged less minutes, several averaged more. i wouldn't trade Kiah for any of them. i guess by your logic, outside of 5 or so players, the entire freshman class is a bust.

i think i'll pay more attention to intelligent posters in the future.
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really?? Not a single freshmen in the USa??
are you frickng for real??
 
neutral_site said:
really?? Not a single freshmen in the USa??
are you frickng for real??
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i sure am. and i'm not sure i've ever seen a bigger idiot on a message board. go back to whatever hole you crawled out from and stop being such a genius.

btw i missed Goss for Kentucky. . you come on here and trash Kiah Stokes - her effort and performances? i take that back. calling you a genius is an insult to idiots everywhere.
 
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HuskyNan said:
Well, so much to address...

First of all, I don't know why you think we need to be objective. Certainly, many here will be objective but it's not required. If that's one of your requirements, perhaps another board would suit you better?

Secondly, what the fans ramble on about - minutes/hours after a loss, mind you - has zero affect on the team. We'd love to have that much influence but, alas, it's Geno that runs the show, not us.

Thirdly, if you gave us fans a day or so to digest the disappointment you'd find a different set of posts but instead you choose to judge us on what you see right after a loss. I would appreciate it if you could ratchet back on the hostility while people are still dealing with their disappointment. It's a tad grating to essentially be told to suck it up by someone who doesn't care about the team like we do.
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Gee, Nan the administrator, my post is what you call "trolling" around here??

Pretty amazing.

God, I'm sorry, Stokes is god's gift to women's basketball, dev peters is the mother of all post players, and not a single UConn recruit EVER underperforms.

Jesus.
 
neutral_site said:
Gee, Nan the administrator, my post is what you call "trolling" around here??

Pretty amazing.

God, I'm sorry, Stokes is god's gift to women's basketball, dev peters is the mother of all post players, and not a single UConn recruit EVER underperforms.

Jesus.
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I did not call you a troll. Get a grip.

No one said Kiah is "God's gift" to anything. But we like her a lot and we don't have to be objective, no matter how much you try to ram said "objectivity" down our throats. If you don't like it, move along.
 
MilfordHusky said:
Bria Goss was the second leading scorer on Kentucky at 11.0 ppg. She may well have been the third leading freshman scorer in the nation. Unlike the prior year, not so many frosh made impacts this season. The year before, we had Hartley, Dolson, Ogwumike, Gray, Sims, Schimmel, Lucas, Thomas, Simmons,et al.
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Actually Morgan Jones from Northwestern averaged close to 14 PPG. i missed Goss tho. good catch. but my point kinda was (when not responding to the yahoo) that the players who scored and produced more than Kiah were also ASKED to do more.

Jones started every game for NW. so did Williams for Duke. KML was pretty much first off the bench every game. Goss started every game for KY. Even Orrange started most or all of the games in the 2nd half of the year for Stanford. any top 50 recruit who went to a school like NW or Central Michigan or Dayton probably had better numbers than Kiah.

but when you look at the top recruits who went to better shools that are filled with better players, Kiah's performance, especially as the year progressed, was just as good as any of theirs (again, notwithstanding the top 5-6 performers in the class)...
 
HuskyNan said:
I did not call you a troll. Get a grip.

No one said Kiah is "God's gift" to anything. But we like her a lot and we don't have to be objective, no matter how much you try to ram said "objectivity" down our throats. If you don't like it, move along.
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Ah, but your fellow "troll-killers" in arms did, and then you jumped in with your holier-than-thou garbage.

Pretty funny, I've been upfront about my interest in UConn basketball, and this is the treatment???

Whatever;
Wished I'd come on and flamed the whole d@@n program, then at least I'd gotten my aggravations worth.

oh, and
"Thank you for your interest in UConn Women's Basketball"
 
I don't post much, but the board has been beyond patient with you. While the team over-achieved, this loss stings. We lost, so everyone could have played better, I suppose. Heaping all the criticism on an inexperienced freshman seems overly harsh. If you disapprove of our national flag blue tinted glasses, I'm sure other programs would love to hear your analyses. Ciao.
 
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SallyH said:
I don't post much, but the board has been beyond patient with you. While the team over-achieved, this loss stings. We lost, so everyone could have played better, I suppose. Heaping all the criticism on an inexperienced freshman seems overly harsh. If you disapprove of our national flag blue tinted glasses, I'm sure other programs would love to hear your analyses. Ciao.
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Please show me the "criticism I've heaped"??
 
Icebear said:
Peters is not an average post. She is solid. She was the Big East Defensive player of the year. She is not Griner who is once in a generation player. Your view here is completely bogus as Milford has pointed out.

Returning to the point of the thread everyone had moments last night when they were great and ones they had brain farts. Kiah overall played very well, really well. She has a great up side and solid future at CT.
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Like I said last night, the lurkers and the crawlers come in to stir up trouble and we are holding up pretty classey as a group. Good job Ice.
 
neutral_site said:
I don't troll.

Read the other posts on other threads by me; no trolling. None.

If you can't be objective, both positive and negative, I can't help you much there.

I'll make another statement you won't like:

Getting caught up in self-hype by the fans is a sure way to go the way of Tennessee Women's basketball over the last four years.

Fan's make excuses for their favorite players, coaches start throwing players under the bus, get complacent in recruiting, on and on....

UConn is not going that path; it can, if that's what you want.

What this team got really hurt by in this game was foul trouble, and when certain players where in the game, they were no threat offensively because her teammates didn't have much confidence in getting her the ball.

Now YOU get off MY back and answer why that is at the end of a near-40 game season by the top basketball program year in and year out in modern women's basketball.

THAT is my case.
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LOL.. This post just proves my point.. Saying that a FRESHMAN is just SUPPOSED to show up in the biggest game of the year is ridiculous, period. Move along now
 
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