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FriarJ said:
To answer a question on the other thread that was locked for some reason. PC fans are not mad about a change in coaching. There are many that have questioned Cooley’s coaching acumen. But, he was our guy and you look past some things, just like your fan base does.

What everyone is incensed about is that we all know the reason Cooley is leaving but he has his sycophant press whores like Goodman and Fanta lying about it and in turn damaging PC which is now incredibly a rival school for him. It’s amazingly low class. The fact that this has been happening a while and he tanked what looked like a very nice season just makes it worse. To say we have been duped is a mild representation of it.

To those of you telling me, we tried to tell you? You were right. There is not much more I can add.

Best of luck tomorrow.
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The more he talks at Georgetown, the more I wonder if he is going to survive it.

He’s certifiably nuts - he might think he’s God. That flies when the lil local media is carrying water for you, but I am not sure he’s gonna survive the Washington Post.

His press conference was….oof. And then he forced the athletic department’s other coaches, some of whom are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more successful than he has been, to line up like dorks so he could lecture them.

He is out there.
 
Fishy said:
The more he talks at Georgetown, the more I wonder if he is going to survive it.

He’s certifiably nuts - he might think he’s God. That flies when the lil local media is carrying water for you, but I am not sure he’s gonna survive the Washington Post.

His press conference was….oof. And then he forced the athletic department’s other coaches, some of whom are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more successful than he has been, to line up like dorks so he could lecture them.

He is out there.
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Can't wait for the energy bucket and red pants.
 
John said:
Can't wait for the energy bucket and red pants.
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I think that maybe his crazy was easier to hide with the water-carrying slobs on the PC media beat….I wonder how it will fly with, say, the Washington Post?

He‘s on campus now lecturing everyone on how to do their jobs lol
 
Fishy said:
I think that maybe his crazy was easier to hide with the water-carrying slobs on the PC media beat….I wonder how it will fly with, say, the Washington Post?

He‘s on campus now lecturing everyone on how to do their jobs lol
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Then there's this quote....

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Palatine said:
The entire thing puzzled me until the personal stuff came up. I live in DC. There is zero buzz around Georgetown. There is not much in the media about the Cooley hiring. There was an article and a column by Feinstein which basically mentions John Thompson over and over then eventually gets to Cooley. Read the comments if you want to see how underwhelming the move was.

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Some coverage is better than none. Beginning in early January, the Washington Post quietly stopped sending reporters to covering Georgetown basketball and the beat reporter was moved to Maryland women's basketball. Some games didn't even get an AP wire story.

The post-game Ewing press conferences were down to the AP freelancer and some bloggers. One ended in under three minutes.

 
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DFW HOYA said:
Some coverage is better than none. Beginning in early January, the Post quietly stopped covering all Georgetown basketball and the beat reporter was moved to Maryland women's basketball. The post-game Ewing press conferences were down to the AP freelancer and some bloggers. One ended in under four minutes.
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Interesting.

Serious question. Obviously you guys desperately needed a change (I liked Patrick, but he just couldn't get it done) and you had your program go after a decent candidate. (we will put aside the interconference thing now, that's a tough subject on its own) . At first that must've given fans some optimism to see the program committing to something different. Has the craziness of the last couple days taken any of the shine off this?
 
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DFW HOYA said:
Some coverage is better than none. Beginning in early January, the Washington Post quietly stopped sending reporters to covering Georgetown basketball and the beat reporter was moved to Maryland women's basketball. Some games didn't even get an AP wire story.

The post-game Ewing press conferences were down to the AP freelancer and some bloggers. One ended in under three minutes.

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yeah, true. Georgetown is at the lowest of the lows and below rock bottom so any coverage is better than none. When there is indifference, like not having reporters specifically cover the team, that is incredibly troublesome. If Cooley can get Georgetown to NCAAT berths, there will be more press coverage and buzz for sure.

Question for you: Do you visit and comment on casualhoya.com or is there a bigger Georgetown Hoyas forum you comment on?
 
August_West said:
Interesting.

Serious question. Obviously you guys desperately needed a change (I liked Patrick, but he just couldn't get it done) and you had your program go after a decent candidate. (we will put aside the interconference thing now, that's a tough subject on its own) . At first that must've given fans some optimism to see the program committing to something different. Has the craziness of the last couple days taken any of the shine off this?
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I am going to guess no assuming CasualHoya.com is reasonable sample, which I acknowledge it might not be.
www.casualhoya.com

Casual Hoya

Your best source for quality Georgetown Hoyas news, rumors, analysis, stats and scores from the fan perspective.
www.casualhoya.com www.casualhoya.com

And if you think Friar fans hated UConn Husky fans and the UConn Huskies, and I know I am overgeneralizing using Friar Talk as a sample, they are going really hate Georgetown and their fans even more than they have the last few days. Check this out:

PROVIDENCE CRIERS: Friars Fan Reactions to Georgetown Hiring Cooley​

www.casualhoya.com

PROVIDENCE CRIERS: Friars Fan Reactions to Georgetown Hiring Cooley

Your best source for quality Georgetown Hoyas news, rumors, analysis, stats and scores from the fan perspective.
www.casualhoya.com www.casualhoya.com

There were 1 or 2 that were underwhelmed by the Ed Cooley hire to be fair, but many are excited and kind of rubbing it in on PC fans.
 
tykurez said:
My goodness the gall.

So genuinely curious, as a Providence fan, was everyone aware of this guy’s “quirkiness” for lack of a better term? Or is everything sort of coming to light now after this debacle?
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PC knew and they apparently were willing to live with it. Not just live with it but they tried to help him.
 
gsmooth said:
I am going to guess no assuming CasualHoya.com is reasonable sample, which I acknowledge it might not be.
www.casualhoya.com

Casual Hoya

Your best source for quality Georgetown Hoyas news, rumors, analysis, stats and scores from the fan perspective.
www.casualhoya.com www.casualhoya.com

And if you think Friar fans hated UConn Husky fans and the UConn Huskies, and I know I am overgeneralizing using Friar Talk as a sample, they are going really hate Georgetown and their fans even more than they have the last few days. Check this out:

PROVIDENCE CRIERS: Friars Fan Reactions to Georgetown Hiring Cooley​

www.casualhoya.com

PROVIDENCE CRIERS: Friars Fan Reactions to Georgetown Hiring Cooley

Your best source for quality Georgetown Hoyas news, rumors, analysis, stats and scores from the fan perspective.
www.casualhoya.com www.casualhoya.com

There were 1 or 2 that were underwhelmed by the Ed Cooley hire to be fair, but many are excited and kind of rubbing it in on PC fans.
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PC fans will never root for harder than they will for any team playing Georgetown and that includes UConn, this all happened in a little over a week. When you are f' ed as hard as we have been from one of your own, this is the reaction you can expect. He wasn't the man we thought he was and he was never the man he professed to be. Georgetown deserves him.
 
tykurez said:
My goodness the gall.

So genuinely curious, as a Providence fan, was everyone aware of this guy’s “quirkiness” for lack of a better term? Or is everything sort of coming to light now after this debacle?
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J and others on twitter/scout board have implied eEd’s got a lot of skeletons in his walk-in closet. We will see if anyone gets some out there in traditional media. I laughed at Cooley getting cocked at his introductory press conference after party on White Russians. (PC presser, not today).
 
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FriarJ said:
PC knew and they apparently were willing to live with it. Not just live with it but they tried to help him.
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FriarJ said:
PC fans will never root for harder than they will for any team playing Georgetown and that includes UConn, this all happened in a little over a week. When you are f' ed as hard as we have been from one of your own, this is the reaction you can expect. He wasn't the man we thought he was and he was never the man he professed to be. Georgetown deserves him.
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The second post seems to indicate you are just learning about the situation (s) you allude to in the first post. Do you have sources who you consider reliable who are now disclosing this to you?
 
fleudslipcon said:
The second post seems to indicate you are just learning about the situation (s) you allude to in the first post. Do you have sources who you consider reliable who are now disclosing this to you?
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Yes, very reliable or I would never say it.
 
IMO, this is an awful hire. Pat Kelsey would have been a much better option. English was solid at George Mason. If you want to grab a mid-major coach to lead your program, you need a stud. English is solid, but he's not a stud.
 
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FriarJ said:
PC fans will never root for harder than they will for any team playing Georgetown and that includes UConn, this all happened in a little over a week. When you are f' ed as hard as we have been from one of your own, this is the reaction you can expect. He wasn't the man we thought he was and he was never the man he professed to be. Georgetown deserves him.
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I have a weird feeling that this might work out well for you guys. You were a joke when Cooley took over, and now you’re solid, but that guy is not a good in-game coach and I don’t think he was ever getting you to the next level. Maybe this new guy is good. You never know.

Either way at least you’re not paying 6 mil for an above average but nowhere near great coach.
 
Val, coming out endorsing this because the league needs GT to be successful might be accurate, but was a bad look How do you do one of your teams like that?
 
FriarJ said:
I’ve pretty much decided that I believe him when he said that Divine Providence led him to DC. For those interested, she dances on stage 2 at the Foxy Lady.
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I don't think this makes Providence look as good as you think it does. One of two things are true:

1) Providence knew Cooley was having this relationship and PC and its fans were totally cool with it until Cooley left, at which point they leaked a rumor that they had known was happening for years just to hurt Cooley's reputation; or

2) Providence fans made up a malicious rumor to slander their ex-coach.

Both of those are bad looks for Providence and its fans.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don't think this makes Providence look as good as you think it does. One of two things are true:

1) Providence knew Cooley was having this relationship and PC and its fans were totally cool with it until Cooley left, at which point they leaked a rumor that they had known was happening for years just to hurt Cooley's reputation; or

2) Providence fans made up a malicious rumor to slander their ex-coach.

Both of those are bad looks for Providence and its fans.
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I can’t tell you how little I care about what you think. Go screw somebody out of their money, banker.
 
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uconn13 said:
Just my humble opinion here. Unfortunately, most modern press reporting has agendas attached, be it sports, politics, you name it. Used to be, a reporter reported the story, and left the reader to weigh the facts against the fiction. Too many folks are compensated to tell lies in our society these days, without personal consequence. Nowadays, a skilled liar gets promoted.
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deep
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I don't think this makes Providence look as good as you think it does. One of two things are true:

1) Providence knew Cooley was having this relationship and PC and its fans were totally cool with it until Cooley left, at which point they leaked a rumor that they had known was happening for years just to hurt Cooley's reputation; or

2) Providence fans made up a malicious rumor to slander their ex-coach.

Both of those are bad looks for Providence and its fans.
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Both are a very Boston sports media thing to do, so is it shocking either way?
 
FriarJ said:
To answer a question on the other thread that was locked for some reason. PC fans are not mad about a change in coaching. There are many that have questioned Cooley’s coaching acumen. But, he was our guy and you look past some things, just like your fan base does.

What everyone is incensed about is that we all know the reason Cooley is leaving but he has his sycophant press whores like Goodman and Fanta lying about it and in turn damaging PC which is now incredibly a rival school for him. It’s amazingly low class. The fact that this has been happening a while and he tanked what looked like a very nice season just makes it worse. To say we have been duped is a mild representation of it.

To those of you telling me, we tried to tell you? You were right. There is not much more I can add.

Best of luck tomorrow.
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Chief tried to warn people. But, it was also a failure in conference leadership, which quite frankly we saw all season with officiating as UConn followers, based on personal grudges.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
This may well be true but she should have been smart enough to realize that there are cookies in DC too. In fact, there are likely a lot more there than in RI.
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People are assuming this whole personal narrative is true about what the move will bring. This is interesting, since this hasn’t exactly been a journey of truth. A counter narrative would be it is a journey to “freedom”.
 
CaptainRon said:
Val, coming out endorsing this because the league needs GT to be successful might be accurate, but was a bad look How do you do one of your teams like that?
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She’s been a disaster this season.
 
I don't really care who they hired, as long as it wasn't Kimani. Or any of our assistants for that matter.
 
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