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People speak highly of Kim, but he's been pretty mid so far as a coach.
 
To answer a question on the other thread that was locked for some reason. PC fans are not mad about a change in coaching. There are many that have questioned Cooley’s coaching acumen. But, he was our guy and you look past some things, just like your fan base does.

What everyone is incensed about is that we all know the reason Cooley is leaving but he has his sycophant press whores like Goodman and Fanta lying about it and in turn damaging PC which is now incredibly a rival school for him. It’s amazingly low class. The fact that this has been happening a while and he tanked what looked like a very nice season just makes it worse. To say we have been duped is a mild representation of it.

To those of you telling me, we tried to tell you? You were right. There is not much more I can add.

Best of luck tomorrow.
 
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I like it. Swing for the fences. I can see it being a rough start though.
 
PC, Butler, and Seton Hall are going to be in a conference of their own trying to stay above Depaul in the basement.

Their recruiting is going to be so bad.
 
FriarJ said:
To answer a question on the other thread that was locked for some reason. PC fans are not mad about a change in coaching. There are many that have questioned Cooley’s coaching acumen. But, he was our guy and you look past some things, just like your fan base does.

What everyone is incensed about is that we all know the reason Cooley is leaving but he has his sycophant press whores like Goodman and Fanta lying about it and in turn damaging PC which is now incredibly a rival school for him. It’s amazingly low class. The fact that this has been happening a while and he tanked what looked like a very nice season just makes it worse. To say we have been duped is a mild representation of it.

To those of you telling me, we tried to tell you? You were right. There is not much more I can add.

Best of luck tomorrow.
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Genuine question: how has the press been lying about it? Are they implying that it was a spur of the moment decision and not something he's been planning for weeks (months?)?
 
CL82 said:
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they say a picture, or in this case a GIF, is worth a 1,000 words. This was my reaction to the Mike Brey thread when he supposedly was hired by South Florida. I guess it captures this hire of Kim English, too. Maybe Kim English turns out to be great, who knows? I certainly don't know either way.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
Genuine question: how has the press been lying about it? Are they implying that it was a spur of the moment decision and not something he's been planning for weeks (months?)?
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Ed’s wife caught him with his proverbial hand in the cookie jar. So… she delivered an ultimatum - we move far away from the jar and the cookies, or we are no longer a couple.
 
FriarJ said:
To answer a question on the other thread that was locked for some reason. PC fans are not mad about a change in coaching. There are many that have questioned Cooley’s coaching acumen. But, he was our guy and you look past some things, just like your fan base does.

What everyone is incensed about is that we all know the reason Cooley is leaving but he has his sycophant press whores like Goodman and Fanta lying about it and in turn damaging PC which is now incredibly a rival school for him. It’s amazingly low class. The fact that this has been happening a while and he tanked what looked like a very nice season just makes it worse. To say we have been duped is a mild representation of it.

To those of you telling me, we tried to tell you? You were right. There is not much more I can add.

Best of luck tomorrow.
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Just my humble opinion here. Unfortunately, most modern press reporting has agendas attached, be it sports, politics, you name it. Used to be, a reporter reported the story, and left the reader to weigh the facts against the fiction. Too many folks are compensated to tell lies in our society these days, without personal consequence. Nowadays, a skilled liar gets promoted.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Genuine question: how has the press been lying about it? Are they implying that it was a spur of the moment decision and not something he's been planning for weeks (months?)?
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They are lying by saying he left because it was a better job. That may be true but the reason he left without going into all the sordid details, of which there are many is the guy has many personal problems that preclude him from staying married and staying in Providence. He continues to make a lot of poor personal decisions in a town where he is treated like royalty.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Genuine question: how has the press been lying about it? Are they implying that it was a spur of the moment decision and not something he's been planning for weeks (months?)?
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This is what I want to know. What Cooley did sucks, no question about it, but to insinuate a guy like John Fanta is in on some conspiracy to push a counter narrative seems … odd.

Edit: I will add that Goodman’s flip-flopping was seemingly for clicks and his pumping up of GTown lately is kinda gross.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
Genuine question: how has the press been lying about it? Are they implying that it was a spur of the moment decision and not something he's been planning for weeks (months?)?
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What everyone is incensed about is that we all know the reason Cooley is leaving but he has his sycophant press whores like Goodman and Fanta lying about it and in turn damaging PC which is now incredibly a rival school for him.

here are the Field of 68 videos:
(16 min)
INSTANT REACTION to Ed Cooley leaving Providence for Georgetown!! | Coaching Carousel 2023 (11 min)

Friar J can answer your question definitively, but if I had to guess he is referring to those videos. Goodman and Fanta state that Ed just needed a change and more of a challenge and that he couldn't go anywhere in Providence without being asked to have a picture taken and kiss babies, blah blah, etc. In DC, Cooley and his wife can walk around without being accosted as not everyone in DC will know who he is.

I have read on here as well as Friar Talk about Cooley having extra marital affair(s) and that his wife gave him an ultimatum either he can 1) stay in Providence and they get divorced or 2) they stay married, but go to DC. The internet is a wonderful and ground breaking thing for humanity, but it also means misinformation and rumors can take a life of their own. Is this misinformation/rumor mongering or is this truth? I don't know, I am not Batman, the world's greatest detective. I doubt we ever find out definitively as reporters are really not going to dig into this, nor am I asking them to. Certainly, Fanta and Goodman, or any college basketball/sports reporter will not talk about this.

Goodman and Fanta also state that PC might have hit their ceiling last year with a Sweet 16 appearance and that Cooley knew he would never go beyond that. There is some truth to PC having that hard ceiling, but there is a lot more to his decision to leave for Georgetown than just the ceiling.
 
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uconn13 said:
Just my humble opinion here. Unfortunately, most modern press reporting has agendas attached, be it sports, politics, you name it. Used to be, a reporter reported the story, and left the reader to weigh the facts against the fiction. Too many folks are compensated to tell lies in our society these days, without personal consequence. Nowadays, a skilled liar gets promoted.
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the pendulum has swung to PR more than reporting
 
Seems like a rushed desperation hire for Providence. George Mason was very ho hum this year.

Did they even kick the tires on anyone else? The Kennesaw State coach turned that program around and had Xavier on the ropes last week. Iona found a coach with a more impressive track record.
 
I Bleed Blue said:
High upside pick for PC. But Kim will have some serious work to do in the portal and to keep guys.
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Surely unproven and now in a very very strong conference with great players and coaches. Always a possibility to become a good coach at this level. Gonna be tough but good luck!
 
metsfan2323 said:
Seems like a rushed desperation hire for Providence. George Mason was very ho hum this year.

Did they even kick the tires on anyone else? The Kennesaw State coach turned that program around and had Xavier on the ropes last week. Iona found a coach with a more impressive track record.
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I was typing similar when you posted

To me this seems like a fast turnaround for such an important hire, given the situation PC is in. Or it has been in the works for a while and people at PC were working on this. Very young coach 34 years old with 2 years of head coaching experience and not a lot of time spent in the Northeast.
 
Kolumbo said:
Or it has been in the works for a while and people at PC were working on this.
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My sense (with no evidence besides how fast things have moved) is that PC knew Cooley had a foot out the door and began planning contingencies ahead of time
 
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ElGreco said:
Surely unproven and now in a very very strong conference with great players and coaches. Always a possibility to become a good coach at this level. Gonna be tough but good luck!
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Slim pickings out there!!!
 
Looks like the Kennesaw coach might get the Cal job. Good for him. He was very impressive last week.
 
husky429 said:
Not sure why he'd leave KSU. He's making 2.5 million a year in a good basketball conference. They had a few bad years under Weber, but they had a bunch of 20+ win seasons in the past couple decade. PC would be a step down for him... that program is going to be decimated. Only players staying are ones that might be forced to (Hopkins, CFJ)
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Pretty sure they're talking about Kennesaw State and you're talking about Jerome Tang at Kansas State
 
FriarJ said:
They are lying by saying he left because it was a better job. That may be true but the reason he left without going into all the sordid details, of which there are many is the guy has many personal problems that preclude him from staying married and staying in Providence. He continues to make a lot of poor personal decisions in a town where he is treated like royalty.
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If Mr. Cooley was a player in RI might be safe to assume he will be in DC / on road as well...sorry Mrs Cooley. Of course it's all pure conjecture ;)
 
FriarJ said:
They are lying by saying he left because it was a better job. That may be true but the reason he left without going into all the sordid details, of which there are many is the guy has many personal problems that preclude him from staying married and staying in Providence. He continues to make a lot of poor personal decisions in a town where he is treated like royalty.
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Yes, I suppose leaving out those details hammers home the narrative that Providence is a lower-tier job/program, when if those details were published, that narrative would be more ambiguous.
 
FLDawg16 said:
Pretty sure they're talking about Kennesaw State and you're talking about Jerome Tang at Kansas State
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That makes a lot more sense! Haha

Abdur-Rahim is a nice coach... but only has had one winning season. He needs a few more years, though I would have said the same about English.
 
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