Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[uconnyankee]

BYU is not a member of the ACC in 24 sports. Stop acting like ND-ACC have no relationship whatsoever. ACC makes a pretty penny off the ND brand when they face ACC opposition. An ACC without ND (even as a partial member) is much weaker than with. Maybe not a great idea for a conference already on life support.

ND isn’t leaving ACC over this.
They might leave but a conference advocating for its member is nothing new. Miami had the head to head win, and ND’s schedule was weak.

 

[gioff2323]

Are we talking about the same thing? ND-ACC share a conference for 24 sports. Which produces revenue for the conference, albeit nowhere near what football would (obviously). The ACC owns the rights to ND’s away games against ACC teams = revenue. If ND moves their sports elsewhere, the ACC is in a worse position. That’s just a fact. Not to mention that an ND departure may embolden Clemson/FSU/UNC to make a move themselves. That conference needs stability, not news stories.

Conference realignment is about football, period. No one gives a rats about the other 24. As such, the ACC would not be worse off without them. ND is like locusts to any conference they join. They’ll eventually kill the crop. They did it to BE, they’ll do it to ACC.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Conference realignment is about football, period. No one gives a rats about the other 24. As such, the ACC would not be worse off without them. ND is like locusts to any conference they join. They’ll eventually kill the crop. They did it to BE, they’ll do it to ACC.

lol the ACC in football is nothing as it is. Lose ND even for 5 games and they’re done. Might already be for that matter.

 

[Exit 4]

So um, how does this square with the WV basement fever dreams? FWIW - don't really understand why Yormark would make a public statement like this...seems like all pain, no gain.

Big 12 commissioner says Notre Dame AD's behavior toward ACC is 'egregious'

Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark slammed Notre Dame athletic director Pete Bevacqua, saying his comments criticizing the ACC are 'egregious'

www.usatoday.com

During a sit-down interview at Sports Business Journal’s Intercollegiate Athletics Forum in Las Vegas, Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark slammed Bevacqua’s criticism of the ACC, describing the administrator’s words as “egregious.”

“I don’t like how Notre Dame’s reacted to it,” Yormark said. “I think Pete’s behavior has been egregious. It’s been egregious going after (ACC commissioner) Jim Phillips when they saved Notre Dame during COVID.”


While Notre Dame is an independent in football, 24 of the university’s athletic programs are members of the ACC. Additionally, the school has had a football scheduling agreement with the ACC since 2014, one in which the Fighting Irish have to play an average of five ACC programs a year over the life of the deal. In 2020, in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic, the ACC allowed Notre Dame to play 10 ACC teams on its 11-game schedule that season and be eligible for the league’s championship game. On the back of that ACC-heavy schedule, the Fighting Irish made the ACC championship game, where it lost to Clemson, and was selected for the then-four-team College Football Playoff.

 

[Purple Stein]

Whoever is on this ND to the Big 12 thing needs to have whatever shred of credibility that they have revoked with prejudice.

So you're telling me I shouldn't read this as sizzling, will-they or won't-they chemistry?

 

[goldendomer]

ND has three options- SEC full membership, Big 10 Membership or Big East and complete independence. I believe we are looking at option 3. Just gonna take time to see about creating the schedule.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Fabricated controversy

 

[goldendomer]

Fabricated controversy

Haha, little to late. This clown conference accidentally included ND on the strategy of the PR push against ND. There is so much more besides the email that occured, but this is just the latest.

 

[Stinger92860]

Fabricated controversy

I think you have to realize that the number of teams in the playoffs was always going to keep creeping up, as long as someone is will to pay for more games. This financial reality has completely overridden any sense of tradition. For me the new reality is I no longer view the players as student athletes. Now they are paid athletes associated with a team which is sponsored by a university. Expanding the season even further will be on the table.

We're already seeing this shift away from the bowls, with players opting out, coaches quitting, and entire teams voting for no bowls. Ditch the conference championship games and create a weeks-long playoff tournament, like the pros. Go to 48 teams with byes for the top 16. College football has evolved past the "student-athlete" ideal and bowl tradition in an incredibly short time. Might as well kill it.

 

[CL82]

So um, how does this square with the WV basement fever dreams? FWIW - don't really understand why Yormark would make a public statement like this...seems like all pain, no gain.

Big 12 commissioner says Notre Dame AD's behavior toward ACC is 'egregious'

Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark slammed Notre Dame athletic director Pete Bevacqua, saying his comments criticizing the ACC are 'egregious'

www.usatoday.com

During a sit-down interview at Sports Business Journal’s Intercollegiate Athletics Forum in Las Vegas, Big 12 commissioner Brett Yormark slammed Bevacqua’s criticism of the ACC, describing the administrator’s words as “egregious.”

“I don’t like how Notre Dame’s reacted to it,” Yormark said. “I think Pete’s behavior has been egregious. It’s been egregious going after (ACC commissioner) Jim Phillips when they saved Notre Dame during COVID.”


While Notre Dame is an independent in football, 24 of the university’s athletic programs are members of the ACC. Additionally, the school has had a football scheduling agreement with the ACC since 2014, one in which the Fighting Irish have to play an average of five ACC programs a year over the life of the deal. In 2020, in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic, the ACC allowed Notre Dame to play 10 ACC teams on its 11-game schedule that season and be eligible for the league’s championship game. On the back of that ACC-heavy schedule, the Fighting Irish made the ACC championship game, where it lost to Clemson, and was selected for the then-four-team College Football Playoff.

I don't know if the statement was intended to be a tactical one by Yormark, but if it was, I guess you can assume that anything that promotes discord in the ACC is a good thing for the big 12.

 

[Stinger92860]

I don't know if the statement was intended to be a tactical one by Yormark, but if it was, I guess you can assume that anything that promotes discord in the ACC is a good thing for the big 12.

I did not look at it this way, great observation

 

[jostar1]

 

[greenday61892]

I don't wanna hear BUNK from conference commissioners about how we don't add value come the next round of CR

 

[UConnTrumbull]

 

[CL82]

At this point, anything that disrupts the status quo ante is probably a good thing for us.

 

[Urcea]

UConn-ND home and home every year through 2082

 

[goldendomer]

UConn-ND home and home every year through 2082

UConn would have no issue with October and November games. Heck, even the cold wouldn’t scare you all off.

 

[CL82]

UConn would have no issue with October and November games. Heck, even the cold wouldn’t scare you all off.

Very true. Do you think Notre Dame would be willing to enter into a straight home and away deal? There's no doubt in my mind that Connecticut would be interested.

 

[goldendomer]

Very true. Do you think Notre Dame would be willing to enter into a straight home and away deal? There's no doubt in my mind that Connecticut would be interested.

The only issue is the games at the rent and the capacity. We do home and homes with Navy but they move their home games for larger stadiums.

 

[jskwrite]

The ACC needs Notre Dame more than Notre Dame needs the ACC. Even looking at Miami - if they hadn't beaten Notre Dame and instead beat some random mid-tier P4, they would have been sitting home and Vandy/BYU/etc. would have gotten the spot. The ND win was their marquee win.

As for football in general - the Notre Dame fan base definitely trends old, but they all watch every game on TV and they have the money to travel. Three quarters of ACC teams are struggling to fill their stadiums, but the ticket vs. Notre Dame every 4th-5th (ish) year drives single and season tickets. The year we had Michigan on our schedule we sold out some pretty lousy games with a pretty mediocre team.

Eventually college football isn't going to be two-tier (P4 vs. G6), it's going to be three-tier (SEC+Big 10 vs. ACC-Big 12 vs. G-everyone else - all of this with some movement available). The ACC is definitely the first conference of the Power 4 that's going to be devalued down to the mid-tier. Notre Dame is the wild card for them. As for other conferences locking them out of their schedule, wait til you fill the Notre Dame home-and-home game with Central Michigan and see who shows up. This is especially true of a handful of programs that have fallen off a cliff the past few years (UCLA, for example) but also the ones who just recently started to struggle (Baylor, Wisconsin, etc.) - attendance isn't an issue there yet however that could change with a few more years of struggle.

 

[coachcap]

The only issue is the games at the rent and the capacity. We do home and homes with Navy but they move their home games for larger stadiums.

Well, the Governor did state that Improvements to the RENT are upcoming. Put in the extra seating where the footings are already in place & capacity increases to 55-60K. Add in the Michigan temporary seating for Irish visits & capacity nears 65K. That big enough for you?

 

[uconnfan68]

Well, the Governor did state that Improvements to the RENT are upcoming. Put in the extra seating where the footings are already in place & capacity increases to 55-60K. Add in the Michigan temporary seating for Irish visits & capacity nears 65K. That big enough for you?

Probably not. They'd want Metlife or Foxboro, where they could claim 1/2 of the tickets.

 

[Platt81]

Probably not. They'd want Metlife or Foxboro, where they could claim 1/2 of the tickets.

They played at BC last year that only holds 44k. I know it’s part of the scheduling agreement with the ACC and they didn’t have much of a say, but if the P4 conferences start locking them out who are they to be picky about the games they get? Not that in the real world that’ll ever actually happen.

 

[goldendomer]

They played at BC last year that only holds 44k. I know it’s part of the scheduling agreement with the ACC and they didn’t have much of a say, but if the P4 conferences start locking them out who are they to be picky about the games they get? Not that in the real world that’ll ever actually happen.

Yeah, that is forced on us just like the Wake game. I can see ND seeing UConn as an ally.

 

[bendm]

You telling me this was a secret??
Also why would the cfp ever agree to this? ND has no leverage over the cfp as we just saw