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Cal and Stanford bring little. I highly doubt the BiG will be interested.
If they really want more western teams, AZ and UT would be more desirable. But I doubt the west is a big concern. The BiG has its eyes on the ACC.
Our best and frankly only hope is finding a home for football immediately to hold us over til the ACC implodes and then go make a league with BC, Wake, Syracuse, and the other east coast schools that are left over.
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You’re not qualified to make that determination.
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Also non-key. You're on a roll.
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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.
I think we need a thread that is a repository of key tweets.
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Something for down the line, this Michigan sign stealing situation can cause them to join a new conference or start their own down the line.
Let’s just say the flagship program in the Big Ten is not happy with how they’re being treated and may be looking to pickup their money and go elsewhere because of it.
Let’s just say the flagship program in the Big Ten is not happy with how they’re being treated and may be looking to pickup their money and go elsewhere because of it.
I’d cackle if they accepted a Notre Dame invitation to the ACC.
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Irony.
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That would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Unless they can get over $100M somewhere else it’s not happening.
They will sit in the B1G and sulk until OSU steps on their junk again and history will repeat itself.
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Could very well be possible.
The talk is either the current Big Ten commish is gone when the time comes to renegotiate and an uneven revenue share happens or they look towards the ACC/go independent/start super conference
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Michigan is one of the biggest brands in cfb. Them and OSU carries the conference. Not the other way around.
The money is going to follow them wherever they go.
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These teams are way more valuable when in a conference and one that contains other powerful brands/TV ratings generators. Really hard to see Michigan leaving the B1G. It's not just a football decision because UM brings in tons of research dollars as part of the B1G.
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Nobody is going pay the ACC $100M per school just because Michigan goes there.
Think about what you are saying.
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Oregon state and Washington state just won the court case. Let’s get on the phone and beg to join for football.
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let see what happens
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This isn’t my opinion on it. This is information from those in the know at Michigan. They are not happy about this Harbaugh situation and feel like they’re being treated unfairly. You don’t treat the cash cow of your conference unfairly.
Any deal Michigan makes if they leave will be about an uneven revenue distribution most likely. After how schools like Purdue and Rutgers threw them under the bus they’re probably done playing nice.
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Michigan was not a top school in recent years until the last 2 years. Michigan needs the Big 10, a conference that is about to get a lot better with the additions of Oregon/Washington/USC/UCLA. There is absolutely no way they go to the ACC no matter what. Michigan is pissed and they will get over it..
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Who's in the know at Michigan?
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The Michigan brand is the Michigan brand. They have the most wins in all of cfb, the #1 public school in the country, and a huge alumni base. They were the first cfb school to be sponsored by Jordan brand because of their value. Big House is the biggest stadium in cfb still. Blue blood program.
They can 100% go the ND route and be just fine if they wanted too. The Big Ten needs them a lot more than vice versa. Especially in this conference realignment wars.
Michigan to the ACC actually stabilizes that conference in these realignment wars. Before these PAC-12 additions it’s really just a UM OSU battle every year. In the ACC FSU and Clemson are legit and the rest of the programs is a wash if not better than the Big Ten.
Their insiders. They have like 3 message boards with paid dedicated insiders that are all reporting the same thing.
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Are you kidding me? I'm sure the networks and Michigan fans would love the ACC schedule vs. the Big 10 schedule. Do they schedule Ohio St. and Michigan St. out of conference? From 2004 to 2020 Michigan has 1 top 10 finish in the final AP poll, #10 in 2016. Michigan leaving the Big 10 is nonsense.
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Well Notre Dame is there other big time rival. It opens the door for that to be an every year one again.
Their record from that time is completely irrelevant to this. They’re a blue blood who may go to their 3rd straight CFP this year. Nobody cares what happened before 2020.
Like I said their insiders say it’s something they’re going to look into. But it’s more of a down the road thing unless this sign gate thing gives them the room to renegotiate/leave the conference earlier. I don’t think the general public understands just how disrespectful the Big Ten conference has been throughout this situation.
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I think there's 1% chance Michigan leaves the B1G. It's ridiculous that they are digging their heels in - they could admit guilt, fire the underling, and it would blow over pretty quickly with the public and without much penalty blowback until the NCAA acted on it which could be a year or more. But, no - they get all prickly with everyone. The conference is not some third party entity - it is made up of their actual peers and partners. Fight the NCAA but don't fight your own conference; especially after their recent other scandals... Total emotional arrogance by UM.
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They will sulk but do nothing.
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Michigan going to the ACC is as probable as us getting a P4 invite! A snowball chance in hell!
We need to pursue football membership in whichever G5 conference will accept us.
We need to pursue football membership in whichever G5 conference will accept us.
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The guy has already resigned. They just suspended Harbaugh and didn’t let him know until he was on the plane to the PSU game when they had all week to announce.
All this before an investigation has even been finished and there’s no evidence that he was aware of this happening. The commissioner pretty much is doing the whims of other conference members crying over the situation and trying to drop the hammer before due process was done. Something like this wouldn’t even be possible in the SEC over signs. The commissioner would tell all those cheating dips to stop being female dogs.
Michigan is going to court and there’s a very real chance they may reveal a lot of the skeletons in everyone else’s closest since the conference is going over the moon over something so minor. And the relationship is not repairable, with this current commissioner at least.
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Not sure why you're basically absolving UM on this, but here's an outsider's take...
1- there's a vast amount of undeniable evidence that Michigan has been cheating for years.
2- the staffer has been fired, but only after Michigan had been publicly outed months after the investigation started privately and with Michigan's awareness.
3- the coach, who has been penalized for other NCAA/B1G infractions just this season, is to be held accountable for direct and/or indirect knowledge of everything going on within the program. There's this concept of lack of institutional control, so a leader can't just look the other way or claim ignorance of wrongdoing underneath him or her.
4- there's this thing called progressive discipline and this is not a legal case in a court of law, so there's no requirement to have 100% of the evidence presented before initial discipline is handed out.
5- Harbaugh's three game non-sideline game coaching penalty is just the first step and really is just a bit of a slap on the wrist with more measures likely.
6- do other schools have cheating going on right now and in the past? Yup, pretty sure there's something going on at many B1G schools but this is not what's being investigated now. Will Michigan report something going on elsewhere? Seems like that will happen at some point. That's within their rights as a B1G member. But it doesn't absolve Michigan from what they're being investigated for now.
7- Michigan in the court of public opinion is really looking poor on all of this. Poor Head Coach, AD, and President perceptions abound. Supposedly their BOT's, major donors, and university professors' views are mixed on it.
8- usually when something reaches this point this fast, the outcomes are not good for the leadership. Seems like that's what is going to happen here, too.
9- whether in a court of law, the court of public opinion, or in a member-driven disciplinary process if remorse is shown, the penalties are usually handed down with that taken into account. There is little of that being shown by Michigan, so they are going to have to risk their track of behavior impacting what may or may not apply to their final penalties in this regard.
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