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WestCoastHusky said:
Yeah I hope this guy is on our side. I think he will appreciate our academic profile, so that's a huge plus for us.

Remember all the corner schools were in an essential academic conference with Stanford and Cal, and they are still going over the shock of now being in the conference with KSU and WVU.

UConn will be a welcoming sight with our overall profile.
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I doubt it will be about our academics.

It will be purely a business decision for him. That is will it be advantageous for ASU? If he determines we bring sports value and could help stabilize his new conference he’ll be on board and get the four corner schools to follow.

Obviously just an opinion but I’m reevaluating my original position that U of A was running point. I didn’t understand accurately the implications when U of A agreed to terms and ASU (Crow) was dragging his feet. He maneuvered who he wanted to join and how much money they would get. I would not bet against this man. He’s the one president I hope Yormark can turn into an ally regarding his vision.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Nelson wasn't completely wrong on his assessment, his timing was off by a reasonable amount and he (as he too often does) held on too tight to a notion and dismissed any possible alternative.

At the moment going entirely streaming (with the streaming service then selling off some content to linear distributors) is far from what it would have been like in 1993 if someone decided to use a cell phone as their only source of phone service (which many do today). There are still some moving parts that will need to be tied down before this will be feasible as a norm but the day will arrive when this will almost universally be the norm.

If we are stuck in the BE for an extended time I would like our leadership to look into something like Apple as an outlet for all tier three (and independent football) broadcasts.
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I have said repeatedly don't underestimate a company like Apple. I truly think what they are proposing is the future, and it will be hard for linear TV to compete unless they adopt and change as well.

My only hope now is Yormark can Fox and ESPN to pay up for number 17 and 18. If he is able to, we are in.
 
OkaForPrez said:
Yormark doesn’t have to take many schools to cut the heart out of the Big East.

I’m definitely spiraling into conspiracy theory time right now but what if Cooley was a canary in the coal mine?
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Wow, you guys have lost your damn minds. Get a grip. Cooley cheated on his wife, got caught and his wife said if you want any chance at saving our marriage then you leave Providence. Canary in a coal mine??? LMFAO.
 
ctchamps said:
I doubt it will be about our academics.

It will be purely a business decision for him. That is will it be advantageous for ASU? If he determines we bring sports value and could help stabilize his new conference he’ll be on board and get the four corner schools to follow.

Obviously just an opinion but I’m reevaluating my original position that U of A was running point. I didn’t understand accurately the implications when U of A agreed to terms and ASU (Crow) was dragging his feet. He maneuvered who he wanted to join and how much money they would get. I would not bet against this man. He’s the one president I hope Yormark can turn into an ally regarding his vision.
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ASU president confirmed UA and ASU are tied to the hip, and will always be in the same conference like twins.

The other part is ACC got punked again. If UConn ended up in the B12, it will be another nail in the ACC coffin.
 
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WestCoastHusky said:
ASU president confirmed UA and ASU are tied to the hip, and will always be in the same conference like twins.

The other part is ACC got punked again. If UConn ended up in the B12, it will be another nail in the ACC coffin.
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Yes they are tied to the hip. I thought U of A were the leaders. Clearly it was ASU.

The 100 calls during the last week between presidents that Crow referenced in the interview were probably Crow reassuring the U of A president to hang in their.

As an aside Crow vetted Apple and discarded it primarily because of exposure.
 
ZooCougar said:
Yormark wants UConn but the Big 12 Presidents don’t,

Michael Crow and the other noobs won’t vote for UConn ahead of WSU and Oregon State.
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Maybe Oregon State but I doubt Washington State. I hope UConn will get in as 17th or 18th.
 
FriarJ said:
Wow, you guys have lost your damn minds. Get a grip. Cooley cheated on his wife, got caught and his wife said if you want any chance at saving our marriage then you leave Providence. Canary in a coal mine??? LMFAO.
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I'm not questioning your knocking the "canary in a coal mine" comment but I still don't fully buy the "saving his marriage" as the real reason he left for Georgetown. Does anyone really believe that there aren't any potential side chicks in DC?
 
I feel like this is mostly about where Cal and Stanford land. Once they park somewhere, the excitement will be gone and it'll be crickets again. Maybe OSU will move the needle for the Big 12, but I don't see any of this changing people's ambivalence about UConn. People just have low awareness of Connecticut in general, except unfortunately BC and Syracuse, who make sure we don't draw glances from the ACC (not that hard to do with football schools essentially in charge). I mean, someone who's into sports intensely enough to find the Boneyard and post here admitted that they didn't even realize we had a football program until last month.
 
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The ACC didn't get punked, it's real simple the schools that have high value don't see the need to expand without true uneven revenue sharing which most of the other schools are reluctant to do.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Nelson wasn't completely wrong on his assessment, his timing was off by a reasonable amount and he (as he too often does) held on too tight to a notion and dismissed any possible alternative.

At the moment going entirely streaming (with the streaming service then selling off some content to linear distributors) is not far from what it would have been like in 1993 if someone decided to use a cell phone as their only source of phone service (which many do today). There are still some moving parts that will need to be tied down before this will be feasible as a norm but the day will arrive when this will almost universally be the norm.

If we are stuck in the BE for an extended time I would like our leadership to look into something like Apple as an outlet for all tier three (and independent football) broadcasts.
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The Big 12 better hope that Apple is not the ultimate owner of ESPN. Apple has a reputation as being vindictive, and they got played by the PAC 12 schools. Plus, there are a lot of public comments about the Apple deal that some school presidents should backtrack if they know what is good for them.
 
Khal Drogo said:
They’re not voting members yet. Big 12 needs more balance which means they need more teams in the east
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Exactly. With all the Western additions, there is no chance they will only have 3 in the East. UConn will enable the B12 to plant a flag here to plan for the eventual ACC blow up.

I am a bit shocked ACC actually tried to do something to survive this time by inviting the 3 corner schools. I wonder if Stanford and CAL got the same offer as well.
 
aburks41 said:
The Big 12 presidents just invited 2 schools who 1) dont even want to be there. And 2) will sabotage any efforts to move further east.

These people are not very bright
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They are not media experts. Let's hope Yormark can sell them in the national conference vision. It is a matter of survival for the future.

B1G went 18, and the B12 should as well. Don't be like the ACC, B12 will need the 7 years until the next contract to grow a brand like UConn to show media partners for the next media deal.
 
yuckformak said:
Out of curiosity do the newly added trams even have a vote yet? The next teams will be added before the end of the calendar year and the 4 pac schools will not be in yet.
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The rumor is they want to add before December 2023. Yormark already got the presidents to approve 17th and 18th.

This isn't over yet for this year. Therefore, I don't think the new schools can vote for 17th and 18th.
 
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I think it’s funny that many are now annointing Crow as this sports visionary.

To his credit, he has changed the profile of ASU academically from a party school that was a safety school for SoCal kids to a legit higher education school that just became an AAU member.

However, he blindly supported Larry Scott as he was in the process of leading the PAC to extinction. He was Scott’s public mouthpiece for years.

I heard, from several ASU people, that the AZ Board of Regents basically had to drag him to the B12 because he wanted to stay attached to Cal & Stanford as the ship went down.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
I'm not questioning your knocking the "canary in a coal mine" comment but I still don't fully buy the "saving his marriage" as the real reason he left for Georgetown. Does anyone really believe that there aren't any potential side women's in DC?
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Listen, you guys are all off your rockers and I don’t want to derail this glorious read of a thread with Cooley crap. It’s not about women, it’s about the protection he received in Providence from everyone.

Finally, there simply is not enough money in realignment for a basketball only school to leave the BE. Literally it is the brand of every one of the C7. These schools have everything they have because of donations. They don’t jeopardize them by flying all their sports teams all over hell and creation. They simply don’t have the financial drain that FCS football and the keeping up with the Jones mentality it carries with it.

But carry on with your nonsense.
 
FriarJ said:
Wow, you guys have lost your damn minds. Get a grip. Cooley cheated on his wife, got caught and his wife said if you want any chance at saving our marriage then you leave Providence. Canary in a coal mine??? LMFAO.
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Mental health feedback from the guy who lives on opponent message board realignment threads in the off-season. Thanks for weighing in Dr J.
 
Maybe it’s exhaustion, but with all the nonsense and the fat west orientation of the league, I’m basically not really too interested in the XII anymore. A lot of my interest was predicated in building a big eastern contingent, and even if it’s us and like OSU there’s not a lot of eastern room left
 
bobbyinaz said:
I think it’s funny that many are now annointing Crow as this sports visionary.

To his credit, he has changed the profile of ASU academically from a party school that was a safety school for SoCal kids to a legit higher education school that just became an AAU member.

However, he blindly supported Larry Scott as he was in the process of leading the PAC to extinction. He was Scott’s public mouthpiece for years.

I heard, from several ASU people, that the AZ Board of Regents basically had to drag him to the B12 because he wanted to stay attached to Cal & Stanford as the ship went down.
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This is exactly why those presidents aren't media experts like Yormark. They are school administrators for a reason. Also, every school president wants to be associated with schools like Cal and Stanford. I am still confident both will end up in the B1G once B1G can find the media money to pay for both. B1G presidents will jump through hoops to get both into the conference even with crappy football.

This is also why Yormark needs to get us added before Dec 2023 so he doesn't have to listen to every president who isn't savvy about the media dealings. It was smart of him to get #17 and #18 pre-approved already.
 
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WestCoastHusky said:
Full ASU president interview here. The Apple platform looks amazing though. UConn should look into this.

Around 5:30 mark, he mentioned the ACC option. GoKU was correct if this is true. ASU was ready to stay in the PAC until Friday morning call until 2 schools didn't show up to the meeting. You can guess which 2 were those schools. B12 would have invited UConn had the 3 corner schools stayed.

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The Apple App is already out there in the wild being used by MLS and MLB. It’s so amazing that almost nobody knows that it is in use.
 
Urcea said:
Maybe it’s exhaustion, but with all the nonsense and the fat west orientation of the league, I’m basically not really too interested in the XII anymore. A lot of my interest was predicated in building a big eastern contingent, and even if it’s us and like OSU there’s not a lot of eastern room left
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I am pretty sure conferences like B1G will go to 24 at some point. They are like the mafia, and they will keep growing as long as there are more money to be made.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
The rumor is they want to add before December 2023. Yormark already got the presidents to approve 17th and 18th.

This isn't over yet for this year. Therefore, I don't think the new schools can vote for 17th and 18th.
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This allows only current members to choose the expansion schools. They just added 4 western teams who will have 25% of the votes. I can’t see them adding any more western schools since the existing schools would be handing over too much power. If ACC gor holds up and the acc doesn’t implode by December, UConn has a pretty good shot at one of the big 12’s 17 or 18 spots
 
Khal Drogo said:
This allows only current members to choose the expansion schools. They just added 4 western teams who will have 25% of the votes. I can’t see them adding any more western schools since the existing schools would be handing over too much power. If ACC gor holds up and the acc doesn’t implode by December, UConn has a pretty good shot at one of the big 12’s 17 or 18 spots
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ACC is run by old dinosaurs who don't think out of the box, and they only react. They will never think like Yormark who got pro rata payout negotiation done for P5 schools number 13 to 16 with his last media deal negotiation.

I doubt FSU can get the ACC to blow up by December.
 
LOL. Crow called the Apple App “23d Century Star Trek”.

Someone tell this guy that it’s already brought to market.
 
ZooCougar said:
LOL. Crow called the Apple App “23d Century Star Trek”.

Someone tell this guy that it’s already brought to market.
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This is why school presidents should not negotiate TV media deals. Leave it to the real experts.
 
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