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UNC just signed Belichick to a $10 million deal.
Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.
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It’s effectively a 1 year deal, with 4 1 year options to renew due to virtually no buyout after a year.
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A: Does it pay $10M+ per or not?
B: If yes, why are you wasting our time with this?
C: How do contracts with a 3-year guarantee become "effectively a 1 year deal"? How is that worded?
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You right, instead of are gone should have said will be gone.
Just in the last 2 weeks we've had 3 P4 coaches restructure their contracts to lower their pay and use the savings to pay the roster.
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The coaches restructuring their contracts are struggling. If the coach wins and the fanbase is behind him, I doubt their contracts will be restructured as they will move on to the next job. How long did Harbaugh stay at Michigan after Manuel cut his pay? I would agree that the rate of salary increases will temper, but schools want to win and they will pay up to win.
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I think new coaches will be hired at lower salaries than existing coaches, and the days of the massive coaching contracts will be ending. In the old days, a coach was the program. Now the coach is a part of the program, along with a GM, NIL Advisor and full talent scout team. The players are obviously going to be taking a big bite out of athletic budget. The coach’s value is declining, and they are becoming more easily replaceable.
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The coaches will still matter. NIL only gets you so far. Calipari had all the money in the world and he still couldn’t dominate. The key will be to put it all together. Great coaches getting great talent will rule the game, same as always. The only big difference is you don’t have to cheat to do it.
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I don't see that happening. A salary cap will be created to limit the players' pay, and coaches will end up making even more money than before. The players are still more expendable than the coaches.
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They can't cap unless there is collectice bargaining.
Free market will sort this out. Sport sucks now, but that is what we wanted.
But for this kind of money, the ncaa or even conferences cant set a limit of compensation that they all agree too. Not without player consent, or it is an antitrust violation.
They really effed up the sport wasn’t this thinking kind of quaint?
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I completely disagree with this point. Yes, the money is very important, but the head coach is much more valuable in an era where players can move at will as you need a coach that players want to play for or they will leave. Look at what is happening at USC right now as the top players don't seem to want to play for Lincoln Riley even though the NIL money is good. Look at Liam McNeeley. He was committed to Indiana but came to UConn because of Hurley not because of the money. Does McNeeley come to UConn if Hurley went to the Lakers and, say, Tom Moore became head coach? No.
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Any sort of collective bargaining is going to be hard for the players because they all have very different agendas. Star players will make far less than market value on the surface in order to subsidize paying the players that aren't worth anything. Endorsement/booster money will then be used under the table to steer the top kids towards the biggest brands.
In other words, same as it ever was.
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What I am saying is not that different than what you are saying. We are less than two years away from a top transfer telling a program that he will come if the program replaces the coach.
Imagine what happens if an agent calls a .500 school and says that if the school hires his coach, he will deliver 10 transfers. How quickly is the incumbent fired?
You mean something akin to Colorado ?
Diego Pavia court ruling another potentially massive blow for NCAA — 'It's not going to end until we collectively bargain'
The 30,000-foot view of the Pavia decision: It not only paves the way for all junior college players to gain an additional year, but it may invite even more legal challenges over the NCAA's eligibility rules.
If this get held up schools can use JUCOs as minor leagues. Basically park kids for a couple years until they are ready to go.
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Yep, so we have a series of minor leagues JUCO (minor³)> DIII (lower minor²) > DII (upper minor minor²) > FCS (lower minor) > FBS (upper minor) > NFL...and in an alternate universe you have whatever the CFL pretends to be (I've watched the games when nothing esle was on, but this 3 down thing is as much football as lipsyncing during the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade is a real live performance). What's next, unlimited transferring in minor league college football where you get to compete until the age of 30?
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This is just getting ridiculous. Someday we may approach sanity again, hopefully in my lifetime.
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I think the hysteria over NIL is totally overblown
NIL, ironically, is not the biggest challenge at the moment.
Having said that, I’ve sat in the coaches area of a P4 school after a reg season game and a lot of time is spent with parents who want to know what they can get in terms of $$$.
I can see why HCs are moving to coordinator roles.
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Holy smokes, I can only imagine how some of those conversations go..."Coach, my boy scored 2 TDs and ran for 100 yards today, I think that's worth $100K. Get it or he portals out next week...".
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I wonder how much Al Bundy would have gotten in NIL? He scored 4 touchdowns for Polk High in the City Championship. His life would have been completely different.
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I think that stuff already happens, though. No program fires its coach these days without getting a thorough appraisal of who's likely to stay or leave first. Texas A&M, for instance, wanted to get rid of Jimbo but keep as many of his players as possible - so it decided to hire the guy who recruited a lot of those players in Mike Elko.
So to your point, yes, the demands of players and agents are likely to get more explicit and public as their perceived power grows. But the coaches dealing with those ultimatums will continue to be the ones who were on shaky footing to begin with.