Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[CL82]

Is the CRDA in the room with us right now?

Kind of. If you bring up the issue of "maintenance of the stadium" inviting the organization which is responsible for it into the chat.

 

[AllHusky]

Ongoing maintenance isn't the states job, that is what the CDRA should be doing. One of the things that I find incredibly annoying about the CDRA is their ongoing practice of not doing maintenance for a decade or two and then presenting the need for remediation as a capital improvement. Yet somehow, even without doing routine maintenance, they manage an annual multimillion dollar loss, even after being grossly subsidized by the university. They are possibly the most inept organization ever to exist on the planet.

What this says is that we are (partially) allowing the CDRA to determine our success in Football(which is everything). That is frightening.

 

[CTBballfan243]

Good luck trying to get Mansfield to allow an on campus football stadium In Storrs. I just don’t see that happening in any of our life times.

 

[Urcea]

"on campus stadium" chatter is the boneyard equivalent of a slow news day

 

[Kolumbo]

Good luck trying to get Mansfield to allow an on campus football stadium In Storrs. I just don’t see that happening in any of our life times.

I get the Mansfield angle but I would think that mentallity would have changed significantly by now. Many locals have grown up watching UConn become a national basketball powerhouse and the athletic department as a whole be competitive nationally. Other folks move to the area specifically because they are involved with the University. I see it in our town where younger folks favor things like apartment housing and better roads while older folks constantly complain about commercial progress. Mansfield is rural but it's not Deliverance material. Come on Mansfield!

 

[huskidork]

like can we just renovate the Rent, the thing should've been years ago

 

[AllHusky]

I get the Mansfield angle but I would think that mentallity would have changed significantly by now. Many locals have grown up watching UConn become a national basketball powerhouse and the athletic department as a whole be competitive nationally. Other folks move to the area specifically because they are involved with the University. I see it in our town where younger folks favor things like apartment housing and better roads while older folks constantly complain about commercial progress. Mansfield is rural but it's not Deliverance material. Come on Mansfield!

Agree. Have you been on campus recently, or I should say to 4 corners? Massive Apartment(condo?) complex nearing completion. Nothing says rural like a monstrous housing complex literally at the entrance to campus.

 

[How Sway?!]

You say it would cost four times as much to build a new stadium than to renovate Rentschler. Have you calculated what it costs UConn right now in terms of national prestige, coaching and recruit interest, student enthusiasm, and alumni support to have a relatively distant off-campus rather than on-campus facility? Suppose, for example, that stadium location was a factor that an expansion-minded "P" conference might consider when analyzing potential candidates. What if the absence of an on-campus facility was deemed to be so indicative of a school's lack of commitment to football that it influenced that conference's decision to look elsewhere? What losses of potential revenue would accrue, year in and year out, if UConn were left out of the realignment picture for that reason?

I doubt all that costs anywhere near 600 million dollars

 

[uconnyankee]

How many times has this thread been hijacked by the on campus stadium debate?
Unless someone tweets that UConn is building new stadium on campus, why does this happen?

 

[hank970]

I doubt all that costs anywhere near 600 million dollars

Colorado State University's new on-campus Canvas Stadium, with a capacity of 36,500 (including boxes and other premium seating), cost $220 million to build in 2017. Naming rights garnered more than $37 million, so subtract that from the cost of construction. Stadium capacity can be expanded, if justified. I haven't been there but understand that it's an attractive and functional facility.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Colorado State University's new on-campus Canvas Stadium, with a capacity of 36,500 (including boxes and other premium seating), cost $220 million to build in 2017. Naming rights garnered more than $37 million, so subtract that from the cost of construction. Stadium capacity can be expanded, if justified. I haven't been there but understand that it's an attractive and functional facility.

Thanks for the info Hank. Wish more people on this site understood this.

 

[Waquoit]

Thanks for the info Hank. Wish more people on this site understood this.

Wish more people understood that money doesn't grow on trees. That more people outside the UConn FB bubble would just as soon get rid of it then pony up hundreds of millions of dollars in further service to it.

 

[billybud]

#FSU, #Gators, #UCF and #USF are in various stages of football stadium construction/renovation. Combined cost: More than $1 BILLION*

 

[hank970]

Wish more people understood that money doesn't grow on trees. That more people outside the UConn FB bubble would just as soon get rid of it then pony up hundreds of millions of dollars in further service to it.

Think of it as an investment, one that could pay long-term dividends if managed wisely.

 

[ZooCougar]

Think of it as an investment, one that could pay long-term dividends if managed wisely.

This is the Key Tweets thread sir.

 

[Waquoit]

Think of it as an investment, one that could pay long-term dividends if managed wisely.

I prefer to think of it as a massive financial outlay with literally no benefit.

 

[AllHusky]

Seems to me there is a need for a new thread that is a repository for debates pertaining to How to become P2 or Realigned or some such thing, but mainly how to win in FB and the benefits accruing thereof. I've posted 8-10 times with a similar theme in probably 5 different threads, can't keep track of where my last post was anymore.

I'm sure everyone realizes the magnitude of the transformation of the University of Connecticut from 1980-2000. That transformation has continued on since, maybe not quite as dramatically. To say that we can't build an on campus football stadium denies that transformation occurred. If we can spend the $$ we did on the Hockey building, I think we can "gamble" on a FB Stadium. Is it the be all end all? No, winning is. Can you do one without the other? Sure. Having both might be the goal though.

No, Money does not grow on trees.

 

[hank970]

This is the Key Tweets thread sir.

Yes, but Key Tweets stimulate conversation, and conversations evolve and meander. As famed architect Louis Henry Sullivan noted, "Form ever follows function."

 

[CL82]

I prefer to think of it as a massive financial outlay with literally no benefit.

Well, Connecticut pays 2.7 million a year to lease the Rent, so eliminating that is a starting point for a potential financial benefit. If you add to that lost revenue from not being able to realize profits from parking in concessions I'll make a guest that's another 800,000 a season, roughly. So that would be about 3.5 million a year.

Now, I'm not arguing in favor of abandoning the rent and immediately building a new stadium, I'm just responding to your "literally no benefit" comment. Keep in mind that potentially the benefit could be significantly higher if we actually had a competitive football team.

Let me restate a point that I frequently make, and made above, right now we are blessed to have Rentschler Field and I'm not advocating that we've abandon it. But 10 years from now the Barnes will be paid off and the building will have reached the end of its useful life and we will be faced with a decision of "massive" reinvestment, or rebuilding. at that point in time it makes sense to weigh the choice of reinvesting in the Rent versus building on campus.

 

[AllHusky]

Well, Connecticut pays 2.7 million a year to lease the Rent, so eliminating that is a starting point for a potential financial benefit. If you add to that lost revenue from not being able to realize profits from parking in concessions I'll make a guest that's another 800,000 a season, roughly. So that would be about 3.5 million a year.

Now, I'm not arguing in favor of abandoning the rent and immediately building a new stadium, I'm just responding to your "literally no benefit" comment. Keep in mind that potentially the benefit could be significantly higher if we actually had a competitive football team.

Let me restate a point that I frequently make, and made above, right now we are blessed to have Rentschler Field and I'm not advocating that we've abandon it. But 10 years from now the Barnes will be paid off and the building will have reached the end of its useful life and we will be faced with a decision of "massive" reinvestment, or rebuilding. at that point in time it makes sense to weigh the choice of reinvesting in the Rent versus building on campus.

sounds suspiciously like the start to a 10 year plan to build an on campus stadium, predicated on playing winning football.

 

[billybud]

Some schools seem talked about re realignment...others not...I hear about UNC but not NC State.

NC State...not a lot realignment publicity or talk of being wanted by another conference..

But they had a good athletic year...Men's and Women's basketball to Final Fours, football 9-4. baseball to the CWS, and their guy finished as champ of the Annual International Cheese Rolling Race....and let's not forget NC State's performance in 1/4 Scale Tractor Competition.

It's not just football or UNC wouldn't get a mention...

 

[ZooCougar]

Yes, but Key Tweets stimulate conversation, and conversations evolve and meander. As famed architect Louis Henry Sullivan noted, "Form ever follows function."

No. I created this thread. Don’t tell me what it is about.

Put this somewhere else.

It’s for tweets. Not discussion.

 

[Ha Who]

No. I created this thread. Don’t tell me what it is about.

Put this somewhere else.

It’s for tweets. Not discussion.

Thread 'Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.'
Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

 

[hank970]

No. I created this thread. Don’t tell me what it is about.

Put this somewhere else.

It’s for tweets. Not discussion.

I'm not telling you what the thread's about. I'm telling you that some Tweets elicit commentary, and when they do, I'm not the only one who offers responses that apparently offend your sense of order.

 

[CoastAtlantic]