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[How Sway?!]

Pac-12 legal affairs: What the negotiated settlement means for WSU, OSU and the 10 departing members

The settlement announced in December was finalized this week and gives Washington State and Oregon State the rights to all future revenue.

www.mercurynews.com

“Another provision designed to protect the outbound schools: if the PAC-12 conference desolves before August 2026, all 12 current members will share the assets, thus ensuring WSU and OSU can’t shut the lights out and keep the money for themselves”

They have a two year “grace period” from the NCAA to operate as a 2 team league (2024 and 2025). Given the above contractual provision in the settlement, they have to rebuild the PAC-12 (perhaps a reverse merger with some of all of the MWC) by summer 2026 to keep their $250M.

UConn to the PAC 12, you heard it here first

 

[Waquoit]

The fact is there just aren't that many UConn football fans out there. Not nearly enough to fill a fraction of the Rent. What the Hartford-area is full of is though, is straight out football fans that will support the team and buy tickets when the program has an avenue to the big-time. That what sold the program and built the stadium, UConn promised the big-time. And when that promise was fulfilled, the place was packed. And when that was taken away, away went most of the fanbase. It will come back if UConn gets in a real league. Until then, it's just a holding pattern.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[ZooCougar]

The fact is there just aren't that many UConn football fans out there. Not nearly enough to fill a fraction of the Rent. What the Hartford-area is full of is though, is straight out football fans that will support the team and buy tickets when the program has an avenue to the big-time. That what sold the program and built the stadium, UConn promised the big-time. And when that promise was fulfilled, the place was packed. And when that was taken away, away went most of the fanbase. It will come back if UConn gets in a real league. Until then, it's just a holding pattern.

It just feels like we are slowly starving to death at this point. There aren’t options other than Indy and that’s not helping.

 

[shizzle787]

Pac-12 legal affairs: What the negotiated settlement means for WSU, OSU and the 10 departing members

The settlement announced in December was finalized this week and gives Washington State and Oregon State the rights to all future revenue.

www.mercurynews.com

“Another provision designed to protect the outbound schools: if the PAC-12 conference desolves before August 2026, all 12 current members will share the assets, thus ensuring WSU and OSU can’t shut the lights out and keep the money for themselves”

They have a two year “grace period” from the NCAA to operate as a 2 team league (2024 and 2025). Given the above contractual provision in the settlement, they have to rebuild the PAC-12 (perhaps a reverse merger with some of all of the MWC) by summer 2026 to keep their $250M.

Key words: before August 2026. They can dissolve the league in September 2026 and keep all the assets. Your interpretation is wrong. Post August 2026, they do not need to rebuild the league especially because they are getting 3.6 M per year from 2026-28 from the CFP.

 

[2UCONN04]

If the stadium was on campus, the football games would have more attendance and a better atmosphere to present to Conference, but they made the decision to have it in Hartford, which hurts things overall. I work at USC and the football environment is fantastic with alumni and others attending games. I hope UConn finds a home for the football program but we will most likely have to settle for what’s left

 

[CTBballfan243]

UConn will be fine. The sky is not falling, and the sun will continue to rise in the east like it always has for the past 4.5 billion years +/-

 

[BlueHen]

Key words: before August 2026. They can dissolve the league in September 2026 and keep all the assets. Your interpretation is wrong. Post August 2026, they do not need to rebuild the league especially because they are getting 3.6 M per year from 2026-28 from the CFP.

Your original point was that they had gone independent. They have not. They are in the PAC-2 for two years.
They are not independent.

 

[shizzle787]

Your original point was that they had gone independent. They have not. They are in the PAC-2 for two years.
They are not independent.

They are independent in all but name.

 

[Drew]

Key words: before August 2026. They can dissolve the league in September 2026 and keep all the assets. Your interpretation is wrong. Post August 2026, they do not need to rebuild the league especially because they are getting 3.6 M per year from 2026-28 from the CFP.

Shizzle- you are wrong. Just admit it and stop digging deeper.

 

[Drew]

Your original point was that they had gone independent. They have not. They are in the PAC-2 for two years.
They are not independent.

And not only that, John Canzanno and others on the west coast have started saying there is real momentum for them to rebuild the league and keep the PAC-12 monicker

They have not ever expressed any interest in going Independent. The only person on the planet that thinks that’s the case is Shizzle. Guy is living in his own fantasy land.

 

[Forte]

I didn't think this thread could get any more depressing but like UConn football it always surprises and finds new depths.

 

[shizzle787]

And not only that, John Canzanno and others on the west coast have started saying there is real momentum for them to rebuild the league and keep the PAC-12 monicker

They have not ever expressed any interest in going Independent. The only person on the planet that thinks that’s the case is Shizzle. Guy is living in his own fantasy land.

Canzano is a clown. He was wrong the entire time on the Pac-12 dissolving.

 

[shizzle787]

And not only that, John Canzanno and others on the west coast have started saying there is real momentum for them to rebuild the league and keep the PAC-12 monicker

They have not ever expressed any interest in going Independent. The only person on the planet that thinks that’s the case is Shizzle. Guy is living in his own fantasy land.

They have not expressed any interest in merging with the MW. They want to cherry pick from the MW which is not happening. Therefore, their next available alternative is independence.

 

[John]

They have not expressed any interest in merging with the MW. They want to cherry pick from the MW which is not happening. Therefore, their next available alternative is independence.

So you were being disingenuous after all.

 

[shizzle787]

So you were being disingenuous after all.

Not at all. WOSU wanted a P4 bid. It didn’t happen. They wanted to cherry pick the MW. Not happening. Of the realistic options, they are choosing independence over merging with the MW. UConn wanted to join the ACC. Didn’t happen. They had the choice between indy/Big East and AAC. They chose the later to the detriment of the program.

If WOSU wanted to merge with MW under the Pac-12 banner, it would have already happened. Nothing is preventing them from doing so.

 

[CL82]

I blame killing spring weekend

I'm pretty sure I had some of the best times I don't remember during spring weekend.

 

[shizzle787]

So you were being disingenuous after all.

BYU didn’t want independence as first choice either, but the Pac-12 and Big 12 weren’t picking up the phone. As a result, they chose to go independent.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

If UConn had joined the Big East instead of the AAC when the old Big East came apart, it would be in a power conference right now.

I’m not sure we were invited to help destroy the Old Big East with the C7 . Most of those schools never really loved us and our unfair advantage as a large public.Plus they didn't want to be involved in BCS football.
We seemed to be as blind sided by them leaving as much as anyone. We also stood with Cincinnati and USF to not dissolve The Big East .But I don’t claim to be an insider so I don’t know for sure.
The assumption at the time was UConn coming off a NC in 2011 and a BCS bowl right after was a slam dunk for inclusion in a major conference. So treading water in the Big East / /AAC was a no brainer .
I’m sure you recall C7‘s original plan was to destroy the Old Big East and split the assets Between 10-11 remaining schools. The fact three football. teams , us included remained , prevented that from happening and in fact it was a financial windfall for UConn.
The Old Big East /AAC was very heavy in cash from Basketball success big years in 2009 in 2011 plus exit fees . Estimates were anywhete from $70,000,000 to $90,000,000.
The three remaining Big East members got the vast portion of the money by keeping the conference intact.. We made an estimated $20,000,000 by staying. That distribution help sustain us through a difficult period . NC ‘s in 2013 ,2014 didn’t hurt either Nor did top G5 CFP money .
Finally if UConn helped destroyed a football conference for the sake of basketball what would have been the prognosis for our future In another football conference .
I don’t recall us going Indy in football ever came up that was only after AAC cash dried up and the new media deal was not to our liking.
The assumption of C7 success was not a sure thing even with the name and MSG. They struggled on a newbie network to attract eyeballs.
They were forced to increase their footprint to Nebraska to remain somewhat viable and without Nova‘s improbable success followed by our return it might be a mid major by now.



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[UConnJim]

Sat a few seats down from the Iowa State AD at tonight's game. Been there 19 years which is pretty incredible and the Iowa State fans gushed about him. I should have begged him to help UConn get a Big 12 invite.

 

[Kolumbo]

I’m not sure we were invited to help destroy the Old Big East with the C7 . Most of those schools never really loved us and our unfair advantage as a large public.Plus they didn't want to be involved in BCS football.
We seemed to be as blind sided by them leaving as much as anyone. We also stood with Cincinnati and USF to not dissolve The Big East .But I don’t claim to be an insider so I don’t know for sure.
The assumption at the time was UConn coming off a NC in 2011 and a BCS bowl right after was a slam dunk for inclusion in a major conference. So treading water in the Big East / /AAC was a no brainer .
I’m sure you recall C7‘s original plan was to destroy the Old Big East and split the assets Between 10-11 remaining schools. The fact three football. teams , us included remained , prevented that from happening and in fact it was a financial windfall for UConn.
The Old Big East /AAC was very heavy in cash from Basketball success big years in 2009 in 2011 plus exit fees . Estimates were anywhete from $70,000,000 to $90,000,000.
The three remaining Big East members got the vast portion of the money by keeping the conference intact.. We made an estimated $20,000,000 by staying. That distribution help sustain us through a difficult period . NC ‘s in 2013 ,2014 didn’t hurt either Nor did top G5 CFP money .
Finally if UConn helped destroyed a football conference for the sake of basketball what would have been the prognosis for our future In another football conference .
I don’t recall us going Indy in football ever came up that was only after AAC cash dried up and the new media deal was not to our liking.
The assumption of C7 success was not a sure thing even with the name and MSG. They struggled on a newbie network to attract eyeballs.
They were forced to increase their footprint to Nebraska to remain somewhat viable and without Nova‘s improbable success followed by our return it might be a mid major by now.



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Good summary. And it was actually 5 remaining: UConn, USF, Cincy, Louisville, Rutgers, while adding UCF, Houston, Memphis, Temple, SMU. That's a pretty darn good football conference for UConn to be a part of given the other "options" today. Then Louisville and Rutgers got invites out of nowhere and the American backfilled with ECU, Tulane, Tulsa. Still very good football, but travel became worse.

 

[ZooCougar]

They have not expressed any interest in merging with the MW. They want to cherry pick from the MW which is not happening. Therefore, their next available alternative is independence.

They will not choose Independence. But it may choose them.

 

[Rufus]

Good summary. And it was actually 5 remaining: UConn, USF, Cincy, Louisville, Rutgers, while adding UCF, Houston, Memphis, Temple, SMU. That's a pretty darn good football conference for UConn to be a part of given the other "options" today. Then Louisville and Rutgers got invites out of nowhere and the American backfilled with ECU, Tulane, Tulsa. Still very good football, but travel became worse.

Rutgers and Louisville actually were voted into the B1G and ACC before the Big East split. It was soon after that the football schools split off and formed The American, but Rutgers and Louisville had to play in the American for one year as their conference affiliation switch dates happened a year later. They were technically original members of the American, but they already knew where they were going before the American came into existence.

 

[uconnyankee]

How is that disingenuous? OSU and WSU are in the relatively same position UConn was in. They can rebuild the Pac-12 with MW schools or go indy/WCC. They chose the latter. UConn chose the equivalent of the former. WOSU doesn’t want to be associated with the G5 moniker. To boot, the Big East of 2013 was better than the current WCC.

Don’t OSU and WSU get all the funds in Pac12 including the NCAA bb credits.
Splitting that 2 ways plus anything MWC gives them puts them in an okay position short term

 

[ZooCougar]

Don’t OSU and WSU get all the funds in Pac12 including the NCAA bb credits.
Splitting that 2 ways plus anything MWC gives them puts them in an okay position short term

They are basically in the same situation as the Big East leftovers. Actually a bit better because the money seems higher.

But they better have a plan for when it goes away.