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If you're going to have Army and Navy, might as well take Air Force as well, and another Eastern team to balance.

Alternatively, if I'm ESPN maybe I try to satisfy the unhappiness of the bigger ACC schools and the mistakes in past realignment, by taking a page out of the plan to dissolve the Mountain West or American in order to free up teams from contracts for a re-arrangement with the Pac.

Let's say it takes 12 of 15 schools to dissolve the ACC. The 12 most valuable schools dissolve the ACC and recreate it, dropping the three weakest (BC, Cuse and Louisville?), adding Stanford, Cal, and UConn. ESPN provides new financial terms that are more acceptable to FSU, Clemson, UNC, and don't leave anyone else worse off. You may get a more stable conference with an uptick in revenue.
I don’t think ESPN would orchestrate the implosion of the ACC, which it owns on the cheap thru 2036, in order to re-form it and pay it more
 
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I don’t think ESPN would orchestrate the implosion of the ACC, which it owns on the cheap thru 2036, in order to re-form it and pay it more
An observation.

Big 10 has been partnered with FOX for the Big Ten Network. SEC and ACC has been partnered with ESPN for the SECN and ACCN. Pac 12 wasn't partnered with anyone for the Pac 12 Network. Big 12 had no conference network

When it came time for new media deals, Big 10 chose FOX, SEC chose ESPN, Big 12 chose FOX/ESPN, Pac 12 imploded.
 
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I don’t think ESPN would orchestrate the implosion of the ACC, which it owns on the cheap thru 2036, in order to re-form it and pay it more
That's why FSU is most likely stuck for the whole. Of course, Fox can change all that by getting B1G to invite FSU with current media pro rata payout.
 

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They voted but weren't accepted. Still, Stanford and Cal were very happy because they were able to bolster their reputations for having high rejection rates in applications. SMU was just generally confused by the whole process.

Well played.
 
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Eventually we will have nobody to play, and definitely no one to come to the Rent. It will be 1-2 bodybag drubbings on the road and 6 1AA teams in E Htfd.
The folks saying we are good as an Indy for an extended period of time are wrong.
This is the reason why we need to get into some kind of scheduling alliance. P4 conferences will increase their conference games due to media company requirements. It will be harder or harder to schedule going forward.

This is why we should explore some kind of scheduling alliance with the PAC-4 if such option is available.
 

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SMU was just generally confused by the whole process.
SMU:
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"So where's our room?"
 
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Eventually we will have nobody to play, and definitely no one to come to the Rent. It will be 1-2 bodybag drubbings on the road and 6 1AA teams in E Htfd.
The folks saying we are good as an Indy for an extended period of time are wrong.


I agree, the only conference I would not accept a football only invite to is CUSA. Once the PAC remnants start adding teams there should be a solid round of G5 reshuffling in the near future, hopefully something opens up for us. Getting a football only invite to the new PAC would be ideal.
 
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If the Championships and the brand were this big then we wouldn’t be in this fix,

We’re about to get passed over for SMU.
SMU is still surrounded by people who believe they can purchase things like success, credibility and status. They could vey well be correct, time will tell.
 
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SMU is still surrounded by people who believe they can purchase things like success, credibility and status. They could vey well be correct, time will tell.
Sometimes it takes money to make money and from what I hear, they have money.
 

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Eventually we will have nobody to play, and definitely no one to come to the Rent. It will be 1-2 bodybag drubbings on the road and 6 1AA teams in E Htfd.
The folks saying we are good as an Indy for an extended period of time are wrong.

It is amazing how many AAC fans this board still has.
 
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Keep this in mind, SMU is a bigger school than TCU, and it has better academics, and more money.

I don't see why it couldn't cut into that market of kids that would otherwise go to these schools. It will weaken them all but there's nothing structural there to prohibit them.
 
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Keep this in mind, SMU is a bigger school than TCU, and it has better academics, and more money.

I don't see why it couldn't cut into that market of kids that would otherwise go to these schools. It will weaken them all but there's nothing structural there to prohibit them.
They're both small schools with some wealthy grads, SMU has less undergrads and a smaller endowment than TCU. They're very similar academically, SMU probably has a slight advantage.

They're very similar schools with pretty weak fanbases historically.
 
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They're both small schools with some wealthy grads, SMU has less undergrads and a smaller endowment than TCU. They're very similar academically, SMU probably has a slight advantage.

They're very similar schools with pretty weak fanbases historically.
If you're looking at USNews maybe similar academically but if you're looking at the strength of programs and departments and their reputations, it's SMU far and away
 

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SMU would've been in the Big 12 way before TCU, WV, Cinci, UCF, and BYU if it didn't get the death penalty that killed it's program and stunted it's momentum for decades
 
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SMU would've been in the Big 12 way before TCU, WV, Cinci, UCF, and BYU if it didn't get the death penalty that killed it's program and stunted it's momentum for decades
Really? In SMU's heyday before the death penalty, they had a hard time attracting 30k fans per game unless they were playing Texas or Texas A&M. The poor fanbases at TCU, Houston, SMU, and Rice is why they were left behind when the Big 12 was formed.

BTW, SMU averaged 25k fans per game last season and they have ~7k undergraduates. What do they bring to a conference?
 
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SMU would've been in the Big 12 way before TCU, WV, Cinci, UCF, and BYU if it didn't get the death penalty that killed it's program and stunted it's momentum for decades
And SMU never would've had those good years without their rampant cheating. They sucked before it and they sucked after it.
 

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