Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[UConn Dan]

I go away for two weeks and this place falls apart.

 

[PaulMec]

The last 5 pages of posts on this thread is abuse of the Key Tweets. You guys know about the Non Key Tweets thread, right?

 

[CL82]

SMU was just generally confused by the whole process.

SMU:

"So where's our room?"

 

[ZooCougar]

It's all about brands there's no way UConn basketball is being left out of anything.

If the Championships and the brand were this big then we wouldn’t be in this fix,

We’re about to get passed over for SMU.

 

[metsfan2323]

Eventually we will have nobody to play, and definitely no one to come to the Rent. It will be 1-2 bodybag drubbings on the road and 6 1AA teams in E Htfd.
The folks saying we are good as an Indy for an extended period of time are wrong.

I agree, the only conference I would not accept a football only invite to is CUSA. Once the PAC remnants start adding teams there should be a solid round of G5 reshuffling in the near future, hopefully something opens up for us. Getting a football only invite to the new PAC would be ideal.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

If the Championships and the brand were this big then we wouldn’t be in this fix,

We’re about to get passed over for SMU.

SMU is still surrounded by people who believe they can purchase things like success, credibility and status. They could vey well be correct, time will tell.

 

[TheDrifter75]

SMU is still surrounded by people who believe they can purchase things like success, credibility and status. They could vey well be correct, time will tell.

Sometimes it takes money to make money and from what I hear, they have money.

 

[businesslawyer]

SMU is still surrounded by people who believe they can purchase things like success, credibility and status. They could vey well be correct, time will tell.

It’s always worked for them in Texas.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Eventually we will have nobody to play, and definitely no one to come to the Rent. It will be 1-2 bodybag drubbings on the road and 6 1AA teams in E Htfd.
The folks saying we are good as an Indy for an extended period of time are wrong.

It is amazing how many AAC fans this board still has.

 

[Vowelguy]

It’s always worked for them in Texas.

You mean other than the last 35 years?

 

[upstater]

Keep this in mind, SMU is a bigger school than TCU, and it has better academics, and more money.

I don't see why it couldn't cut into that market of kids that would otherwise go to these schools. It will weaken them all but there's nothing structural there to prohibit them.

 

[superjohn]

Keep this in mind, SMU is a bigger school than TCU, and it has better academics, and more money.

I don't see why it couldn't cut into that market of kids that would otherwise go to these schools. It will weaken them all but there's nothing structural there to prohibit them.

They're both small schools with some wealthy grads, SMU has less undergrads and a smaller endowment than TCU. They're very similar academically, SMU probably has a slight advantage.

They're very similar schools with pretty weak fanbases historically.

 

[upstater]

They're both small schools with some wealthy grads, SMU has less undergrads and a smaller endowment than TCU. They're very similar academically, SMU probably has a slight advantage.

They're very similar schools with pretty weak fanbases historically.

If you're looking at USNews maybe similar academically but if you're looking at the strength of programs and departments and their reputations, it's SMU far and away

 

[huskidork]

SMU would've been in the Big 12 way before TCU, WV, Cinci, UCF, and BYU if it didn't get the death penalty that killed it's program and stunted it's momentum for decades

 

[UConnJim]

SMU would've been in the Big 12 way before TCU, WV, Cinci, UCF, and BYU if it didn't get the death penalty that killed it's program and stunted it's momentum for decades

Really? In SMU's heyday before the death penalty, they had a hard time attracting 30k fans per game unless they were playing Texas or Texas A&M. The poor fanbases at TCU, Houston, SMU, and Rice is why they were left behind when the Big 12 was formed.

BTW, SMU averaged 25k fans per game last season and they have ~7k undergraduates. What do they bring to a conference?

 

[superjohn]

SMU would've been in the Big 12 way before TCU, WV, Cinci, UCF, and BYU if it didn't get the death penalty that killed it's program and stunted it's momentum for decades

And SMU never would've had those good years without their rampant cheating. They sucked before it and they sucked after it.

 

[Patman]

If the Championships and the brand were this big then we wouldn’t be in this fix,

We’re about to get passed over for SMU.

the reality is that school presidents and athletic directors are often as shallow as the fanbases

 

[huskypantz]

SMU would've been in the Big 12 way before TCU, WV, Cinci, UCF, and BYU if it didn't get the death penalty that killed it's program and stunted it's momentum for decades

SMU’s “momentum” was a direct result of the activities that earned them the death penalty.

 

[uconnric]

Really? In SMU's heyday before the death penalty, they had a hard time attracting 30k fans per game unless they were playing Texas or Texas A&M. The poor fanbases at TCU, Houston, SMU, and Rice is why they were left behind when the Big 12 was formed.

BTW, SMU averaged 25k fans per game last season and they have ~7k undergraduates. What do they bring to a conference?

They bring the Dallas market, although that's like saying BC brought the Boston market and Syracuse and Rutgers brought the NYC market. Also some inroads into recruiting in Texas.

With streaming however, schools will have to demonstrate there own media value down the road.

 

[Chin Diesel]

SMU would've been in the Big 12 way before TCU, WV, Cinci, UCF, and BYU if it didn't get the death penalty that killed it's program and stunted it's momentum for decades

What really sucks is the university had no control over the actions by its boosters, coaching staff and university administration which led to the death penalty.

 

[HuskyHawk]

What really sucks is the university had no control over the actions by its boosters, coaching staff and university administration which led to the death penalty.

I know you're being sarcastic, but it is definitely true that the University has no control over boosters. The only threat there was that they could hurt the program, which they did. Now everybody wants those boosters setting up NIL. It's wild how much has changed.

 

[pepband99]

It is amazing how many AAC fans this board still has.

Your usual schtick aside, the consolidation of conferences into larger groups, and the increasing count of conference-only scheduled games, is a real problem for independents not named Notre Dame.

 

[JohnFSilver]

They bring the Dallas market, although that's like saying BC brought the Boston market and Syracuse and Rutgers brought the NYC market. Also some inroads into recruiting in Texas.

With streaming however, schools will have to demonstrate there own media value down the road.

Is this 2008? Where carriage is guaranteed? Lol.

 

[Seamus84]

SMU’s “momentum” was a direct result of the activities that earned them the death penalty.

I don't disagree, but you could apply that statement to every school in TX and we'd be naive to think they were the only school doing it, then or since. Their problem was they were the right size for the NCAA to make an example and not have to expose the big offenders and kill the golden goose. I think we can relate.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Your usual schtick aside, the consolidation of conferences into larger groups, and the increasing count of conference-only scheduled games, is a real problem for independents not named Notre Dame.

You have convinced me. Let's join the Big 10.

Given UConn's realistic options, burning all of our sports to the ground so football can play North Texas and Charlotte in conference games seems like a bad trade.

The best option appears to be waiting this out until FBS football has to break off from the NCAA or streaming forces leagues to re-evaluate their revenue sharing.