Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[noeynox]

If the Pac is rebuilding and we can join as a football only, I don't see why not. Dream -- have a 12 team conference with an eastern flank of UConn, USF, Temple and Navy, a western flank of the four remaining Pac members and a central part of, say, San Diego State, SMU, and two others. The eastern flank are all football only members. UConn stays in the Big East, Temple goes back to the A-Ten (which would be good for their hoops as well), Navy stays in the Patriot and USF finds a southern conference without football. As to the eastern schools, three have played at a P-6 level when the Big East had a guaranteed big time bowl for their champion, and Navy has competed at a near P05 level for most of hte last 20 years. Plus, those are all schools that don't embarass Stanford and Cal academically.

I've thought the same except Army instead of Temple.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Awesome that Cal, who sucks at everything and has no fans, will get a landing spot.

Do you understand They’re the Flagship University of the most populous state in The US with 40 million people . They have assets of $136 billion and are typically ranked as the top public academic institutions in the country and is world famous .
The only shocking thing about CaL is with that type of weight they find themselves on the outside at all .
Stanford and Cal ignored athletics as trivial entertainment for the masses or they would both be in the B1G . It demonstrates that if you want to play you better be serous

 

[businesslawyer]

I've thought the same except Army instead of Temple.

I'd lean Temple, but if it works with Army instead that's fine with me.

 

[DGB]

If the Pac is rebuilding and we can join as a football only, I don't see why not. Dream -- have a 12 team conference with an eastern flank of UConn, USF, Temple and Navy, a western flank of the four remaining Pac members and a central part of, say, San Diego State, SMU, and two others. The eastern flank are all football only members. UConn stays in the Big East, Temple goes back to the A-Ten (which would be good for their hoops as well), Navy stays in the Patriot and USF finds a southern conference without football. As to the eastern schools, three have played at a P-6 level when the Big East had a guaranteed big time bowl for their champion, and Navy has competed at a near P05 level for most of hte last 20 years. Plus, those are all schools that don't embarass Stanford and Cal academically.

UConn should approach the PAC 4 with a football only conference like this, and honestly you don't even need the central division (and can replace USF with Army). I posted the following a week ago:

West
Stanford (Olympic in WCC)
Cal (Olympic in WCC)
OSU (Olympic in WCC)
WSU (Olympic in WCC)

East
UConn (Olympic in Big East)
Army (Olympic in Patriot)
Navy (Olympic in Patriot)
Temple (Olympic in A10 or Big East)

Would be an interesting football conference that has no impact on basketball/Olympic. Could even get some baseball series with Stanford/Cal/OSU...

Notre Dame might also find this conference kind of attractive for a scheduling deal. Stanford, Army (at Yankee Stadium), Navy (at FedEx), UConn (at Fenway), Temple (at Lincoln). Could "leave" the ACC and park Olympics in the Big East.

 

[shizzle787]

UConn should approach the PAC 4 with a football only conference like this, and honestly you don't even need the central division (and can replace USF with Army). I posted the following a week ago:

West
Stanford (Olympic in WCC)
Cal (Olympic in WCC)
OSU (Olympic in WCC)
WSU (Olympic in WCC)

East
UConn (Olympic in Big East)
Army (Olympic in Patriot)
Navy (Olympic in Patriot)
Temple (Olympic in A10 or Big East)

Would be an interesting football conference that has no impact on basketball/Olympic. Could even get some baseball series with Stanford/Cal/OSU...

Notre Dame might also find this conference kind of attractive for a scheduling deal. Stanford, Army (at Yankee Stadium), Navy (at FedEx), UConn (at Fenway), Temple (at Lincoln). Could "leave" the ACC and park Olympics in the Big East.

UConn should approach the ACC and offer to join for free for 7 years like SMU. If Cal, Stanford, and SMU are invited (ND will not join), it doesn't make sense to have 17 football members. You need an even number if you go to 9 conferences games, which makes sense if you have more than 14 members.

 

[businesslawyer]

UConn should approach the PAC 4 with a football only conference like this, and honestly you don't even need the central division (and can replace USF with Army). I posted the following a week ago:

West
Stanford (Olympic in WCC)
Cal (Olympic in WCC)
OSU (Olympic in WCC)
WSU (Olympic in WCC)

East
UConn (Olympic in Big East)
Army (Olympic in Patriot)
Navy (Olympic in Patriot)
Temple (Olympic in A10 or Big East)

Would be an interesting football conference that has no impact on basketball/Olympic. Could even get some baseball series with Stanford/Cal/OSU...

Notre Dame might also find this conference kind of attractive for a scheduling deal. Stanford, Army (at Yankee Stadium), Navy (at FedEx), UConn (at Fenway), Temple (at Lincoln). Could "leave" the ACC and park Olympics in the Big East.

The reason I think my scenario is more likely is that it leaves the 4 PAC schools with an 8 team conference with the PAC name that stays western, if not pacific. I think that would be preferable than joining the WCC. And it’s their conference to invite whom they want.

 

[shizzle787]

The reason I think my scenario is more likely is that it leaves the 4 PAC schools with an 8 team conference with the PAC name that stays western, if not pacific. I think that would be preferable than joining the WCC. And it’s their conference to invite whom they want.

Stanford is offering to join the ACC for free for several years. They're gone.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

UConn should approach the ACC and offer to join for free for 7 years like SMU. If Cal, Stanford, and SMU are invited (ND will not join), it doesn't make sense to have 17 football members. You need an even number if you go to 9 conferences games, which makes sense if you have more than 14 members.

Isn't the concern with UConn athletics not being in the P4 a monetary one? So the solution would be to join the P4...for zero media dollars?

 

[shizzle787]

Isn't the concern with UConn athletics not being in the P4 a monetary one? So the solution would be to join the P4...for zero media dollars?

You get in the club first and get paid later. We would get a half share starting in 2031 and a full share in 2036.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Do you understand They’re the Flagship University of the most populous state in The US with 40 million people . They have assets of $136 billion and are typically ranked as the top public academic institutions in the country and is world famous .
The only shocking thing about CaL is with that type of weight they find themselves on the outside at all .
Stanford and Cal ignored athletics as trivial entertainment for the masses or they would both be in the B1G . It demonstrates that if you want to play you better be serous

Do you realize that most of their students don’t care about US sports at all?

 

[superjohn]

Isn't the concern with UConn athletics not being in the P4 a monetary one? So the solution would be to join the P4...for zero media dollars?

It's lunacy in here. Next they'll be saying UConn should pay Oregon State and Washington State for the privilege of sharing a conference with them. They've completely lost the script.

 

[shizzle787]

It's lunacy in here. Next they'll be saying UConn should pay Oregon State and Washington State for the privilege of sharing a conference with them. They've completely lost the script.

What are you talking about? UConn would forego media distributions for seven years. If Stanford and SMU are willing to do it to get into the club, why aren't we? This isn't the Big 12. This is the ACC- a league we have been trying to get into for years. A league with our former rivals (Syracuse, Pitt, BC, Louisville) + Tobacco Road. If we get a half share starting in 2031 and a full share in 2036, we would be foolish not to accept. We get less than 4.5 million per year from our TV deals. We can survive seven years of lost TV revenue with just the uptick in ticket sales alone. Put your pride at the door.

 

[superjohn]

What are you talking about? UConn would forego media distributions for seven years. If Stanford and SMU are willing to do it to get into the club, why aren't we? This isn't the Big 12. This is the ACC- a league we have been trying to get into for years. A league with our former rivals (Syracuse, Pitt, BC, Louisville) + Tobacco Road. If we get a half share starting in 2031 and a full share in 2036, we would be foolish not to accept. We get less than 4.5 million per year from our TV deals. We can survive seven years of lost TV revenue with just the uptick in ticket sales alone. Put your pride at the door.

Stanford doesn't have a conference and they aren't going to play for free in the ACC for 7 years.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Holy cow are these two stupid to be publicly collaborating at all.

 

[Chin Diesel]

What are you talking about? UConn would forego media distributions for seven years. If Stanford and SMU are willing to do it to get into the club, why aren't we? This isn't the Big 12. This is the ACC- a league we have been trying to get into for years. A league with our former rivals (Syracuse, Pitt, BC, Louisville) + Tobacco Road. If we get a half share starting in 2031 and a full share in 2036, we would be foolish not to accept. We get less than 4.5 million per year from our TV deals. We can survive seven years of lost TV revenue with just the uptick in ticket sales alone. Put your pride at the door.

For one thing UConn doesn't have Stanford or SMU money.

Also private schools have more leeway with spending than state schools.

 

[UCFBfan]

For one thing UConn doesn't have Stanford or SMU money.

Also private schools have more leeway with spending than state schools.

This. SMU boosters can support the program for years which is why they can join up for nothing for a few years.

 

[Chin Diesel]

This. SMU boosters can support the program for years which is why they can join up for nothing for a few years.

More than "can" they are willing.

Plenty of money in state of CT but those with the most don't see a need or desire to drop it on UConn athletics.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

More than "can" they are willing.

Plenty of money in state of CT but those with the most don't see a need or desire to drop it on UConn athletics.

Sadly, nearly all of those who have made billions running hedge funds were educated at other schools (primarily Ivies).

 

[CL82]

For one thing UConn doesn't have Stanford or SMU money.

Also private schools have more leeway with spending than state schools.

But far less access to capital.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

You get in the club first and get paid later. We would get a half share starting in 2031 and a full share in 2036.

Who's to say what 2031 even looks like at this point as it relates to club?

 

[noeynox]

More than "can" they are willing.

Plenty of money in state of CT but those with the most don't see a need or desire to drop it on UConn athletics.

I dont see how UConn can agree to such a deal AND RAMP UP spending on football coaches/staff. That is what it is going to take to get this program to a level where P5/4 conferences don't say "but they're football is terrible."

 

[HuskyHawk]

I dont see how UConn can agree to such a deal AND RAMP UP spending on football coaches/staff. That is what it is going to take to get this program to a level where P5/4 conferences don't say "but they're football is terrible."

It's more about fans than winning, but winning is what we need for fans. Nobody believes me, but I think some of these football focused schools really want a "culture of football". It's not just what we put on the field. What are our traditions on game day? We scoff at this stuff, but it matters to them.

The Rent was fine for our needs but a generic stadium on an airfield didn't really help establish that culture.

 

[businesslawyer]

I would think it was age if you had answered my question. Surprise, you didn't. So I'll try again. You linked to something. Do you understand the point of what you linked to, and if so would you mind sharing the post, or were you just trying to prove that an infinite amount of monkeys on an infinite amount of typewriters (let me know if you need an old guy to explain what those are) would eventually recreate the entire works of Shakespeare?

 

[UConnJim]

It's more about fans than winning, but winning is what we need for fans. Nobody believes me, but I think some of these football focused schools really want a "culture of football". It's not just what we put on the field. What are our traditions on game day? We scoff at this stuff, but it matters to them.

The Rent was fine for our needs but a generic stadium on an airfield didn't really help establish that culture.

I believe football success attracts fans which attracts P5 interest not P5 interest attracts fans and leads to football success.

The G5 schools that have gotten P5 invites all were winning: TCU/Utah/UCF/Houston/Cincinnati. P5 schools can move conferences even without winning football.

As for the Rent, yes, not ideal location, but when UConn football was competitive, the fans showed up and the atmosphere was great. Tailgating is readily accessible next to the stadium.

Bottom line, UConn football needs to figure out a LT winning model to bring back the fans to gain a P5 invite.