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Except Burton was right. Charlie Strong has had very recent success and is a coach on the rise. Pretty much the antithesis of PP.

I'm not 100% sold on Strong until he can do it without Bridgewater.

RR looked great with Pat White at QB. He is a .500 coach without Pat White at WVU, Michigan and Arizona.
 
Red is pissed because he wanted Gruden:

"I was not on the search committee. I had no official role whatsoever," McCombs said. "However, the people that were in charge were aware that I was talking to Jon and I was trying to develop some interest with Jon."
 
I'm not 100% sold on Strong until he can do it without Bridgewater.

RR looked great with Pat White at QB. He is a .500 coach without Pat White at WVU, Michigan and Arizona.

I think Texas should have gone nuclear and went for Sumlin. I watched the BCS game on ESPNnews and he was impressive. He's like a mellower Samuel Jackson with Bill Walsh level football genius. How could somebody not want to play for him? I thought Addazio was really impressive too.
 
Red is pissed because he wanted Gruden:

"I was not on the search committee. I had no official role whatsoever," McCombs said. "However, the people that were in charge were aware that I was talking to Jon and I was trying to develop some interest with Jon."

It's funny how much this situation parallels ours. Big booster's choice gets no play. Guy goes off shortly after the hire. Insults the new coach. Of course, their guy gave over 100M. Ours, a bit less than that.
 
I think Texas should have gone nuclear and went for Sumlin. I watched the BCS game on ESPNnews and he was impressive. He's like a mellower Samuel Jackson with Bill Walsh level football genius. How could somebody not want to play for him? I thought Addazio was really impressive too.

Sumlin has the same concern as Strong. How good will he be without one of the greatest QBs in college history?
 
Sumlin has the same concern as Strong. How good will he be without one of the greatest QBs in college history?

Sumlin has a history of having a good QB and getting results with him based on his time at Houston.
 
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It's funny how much this situation parallels ours. Big booster's choice gets no play. Guy goes off shortly after the hire. Insults the new coach. Of course, their guy gave over 100M. Ours, a bit less than that.


I would say another difference is that there are probably at least a dozen boosters similar in stature and influence of McCombs.

It's almost alarming that there's only one who has gone public with his displeasure.
 
I'm not 100% sold on Strong until he can do it without Bridgewater.

RR looked great with Pat White at QB. He is a .500 coach without Pat White at WVU, Michigan and Arizona.
People would have said the same about Sumlin. "What can he do without Johnny Football?" Truth is he didn't do a ton with Manziel except upset 'Bama last year and a lot of good that did. The Tide still won the National Championship.
 
Sumlin has a history of having a good QB and getting results with him based on his time at Houston.

Who is Strong naming as his Offensive Coordinator?
 
Chances this exact reaction to the Strong hire from any Texas booster was going to happen: 100%
Chances this reaction came from a guy named, "Red": 80%
Chances the, "Would be a good position coach.." comment made about a black coach who went 22-3 the last two seasons is racist: 65%

Chances Strong is the HC at Texas 6 years from now: 20%
Chances Strong wins the B12 w/o his bag man recuiter: 10%
 
Having Red McCombs mad about your coaching hire is like having Robert Burton mad if Burton were 385' tall.

It is a whole different ballgame.

From McCombs' perspective, I am sure Louisville is some mid-major from a conference he's never heard of and taking their coach is nothing impressive.
 
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Having Red McCombs mad about your coaching hire is like having Robert Burton mad if Burton were 385' tall.

It is a whole different ballgame.

From McCombs' perspective, I am sure Louisville is some mid-major from a conference he's never heard of and taking their coach is nothing impressive.


That's what I was referring to earlier in the thread. Red McCombs by his own statements sees Texas as one of the top three universities in the country.

I'm going out on a limb that Louisville isn't one of the other two to make up that group.

Louisville is a B-rated actress to people of his ilk.
 
That's what I was referring to earlier in the thread. Red McCombs by his own statements sees Texas as one of the top three universities in the country.

I'm going out on a limb that Louisville isn't one of the other two to make up that group.

Louisville is a B-rated smut actress to people of his ilk.

Sometimes they do the best work...;)
 
Its threads like this one that make me sad for some posters on this board. No doubt Mr. McCombs, at age 87, speaks his mind in a way that, frankly, many from his era did and still do, which is to say they are direct and sometimes not entirely politically correct. I know, I have a 93 year old father-in-law from Ohio, an 88 yr old mother-in-law from Kentucky, and an 88 yr old mother from Rhode Island, among others I speak with often. And they all talk that way to one degree or another. I just don't see the alleged racism in Mr. McCombs' statement but I do see some pretty sad and disappointing responses to his comments from posters on this board.


If those of you with negative opinions of Mr. McCombs statement (which does seem somewhat uninformed) had any real interest in being fair before posting your own type of stereotypical nonsense, and had spent just 1 minute Googling his name, you would have discovered another side to Red McCombs. For one thing, he and his family are one of twelve of the wealthiest families in the US who have joined with Warren Buffet and Bill & Melinda Gates to pledge most of their family's HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars of wealth to philanthropy when they die. I could go on but won't.

I guess those crazy, ultra-rich people have figured out a way to make sure none of their hard earned money finds its way into the hands of minorities, right? Geeze guys, look in the mirror and get honest with yourself before mindlessly bashing others.
 
Sumlin has a history of having a good QB and getting results with him based on his time at Houston.


Yes, but he also has a history of defenses that give up points by the dozen and has never had a decent running game, which makes me question how well he'll do without an elite QB
 
Strong is a good recruiter not sure how good of an actual coach he is. If I were a big UT booster, I wouldn;t want strong as my coach. they could have done much much better than 'ol Charlie Strong.
 
Its threads like this one that make me sad for some posters on this board. No doubt Mr. McCombs, at age 87, speaks his mind in a way that, frankly, many from his era did and still do, which is to say they are direct and sometimes not entirely politically correct. I know, I have a 93 year old father-in-law from Ohio, an 88 yr old mother-in-law from Kentucky, and an 88 yr old mother from Rhode Island, among others I speak with often. And they all talk that way to one degree or another. I just don't see the alleged racism in Mr. McCombs' statement but I do see some pretty sad and disappointing responses to his comments from posters on this board.


If those of you with negative opinions of Mr. McCombs statement (which does seem somewhat uninformed) had any real interest in being fair before posting your own type of stereotypical nonsense, and had spent just 1 minute Googling his name, you would have discovered another side to Red McCombs. For one thing, he and his family are one of twelve of the wealthiest families in the US who have joined with Warren Buffet and Bill & Melinda Gates to pledge most of their family's HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars of wealth to philanthropy when they die. I could go on but won't.

I guess those crazy, ultra-rich people have figured out a way to make sure none of their hard earned money finds its way into the hands of minorities, right? Geeze guys, look in the mirror and get honest with yourself before mindlessly bashing others.


Meh, I've known philanthropists that also held racist views. I won't pretend to know Red McCombs, nor will I judge him, but those comments were utterly moronic. Hopefully he was just speaking from the postition of being irate.
 
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Strong is a good recruiter not sure how good of an actual coach he is. If I were a big UT booster, I wouldn;t want strong as my coach. they could have done much much better than 'ol Charlie Strong.
Or could they? There is a reason they ended up with Strong. Apparently, none of the big names they coveted wanted the gig.
 
No doubt Mr. McCombs, at age 87, speaks his mind in a way that, frankly, many from his era did and still do, which is to say they are direct and sometimes not entirely politically correct. I know, I have a 93 year old father-in-law from Ohio, an 88 yr old mother-in-law from Kentucky, and an 88 yr old mother from Rhode Island, among others I speak with often. And they all talk that way to one degree or another.

I think Aziz Ansari addressed this pretty accurately not too long ago.
 
Of course Texas' decision was bound to tick off some of their boosters. But they went large on this one.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...bs-bashes-texas-longhorns-charlie-strong-hire



Longtime booster Red McCombs is not a fan of Texas' decision to hire coach Charlie Strong away from Louisville, calling it a "kick in the face" during a radio interview Monday.

"I think the whole thing is a bit sideways," McCombs said of the selection process during an interview with ESPN 1250 San Antonio. "I don't have any doubt that Charlie is a fine coach. I think he would make a great position coach, maybe a coordinator.

"But I don't believe [he belongs at] what should be one of the three most powerful university programs in the world right now at UT-Austin. I don't think it adds up."

McCombs, the former owner of the San Antonio Spurs, Denver Nuggets and Minnesota Vikings and co-founder of Clear Channel Communications, said on "The Blitz with Dat Nguyen and Jason Minnix" that he was stunned to learn Strong was the choice to replace Mack Brown.

Texas named its McCombs School of Business after the benefactor, and he has a statue inside Darrell K Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium. McCombs has donated more than $100 million to UT and is a close friend to Brown.


Sounds like Burton...
 
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That's the money quote on the racism angle. If he said that "Charlie is a great coach but here at TX we expect to hire someone with NCs or Superbowl wins and he just isn't at that level yet..." he would be fine.

When he says that a guy with more BCS wins in the last 2 years than TX has last 8 is only "a position coach" , he sounds stupid or racist. Based on his success, I don't think he is stupid.

I get that TX wanted Saban or Lombardi or Shula or Bear Bryant, but this is bad.

This.

He sounds like one of those old farts who believed black men didnt have the poise or intelligence to play QB. They make fine WRs and RBs but not QBs. Strong is a proven HC but this doosh says he would make a fine coordinator???
 
I just don't see the alleged racism in Mr. McCombs' statement but I do see some pretty sad and disappointing responses to his comments from posters on this board.
Mack Brown's record was no more impressive than Charlie Strong's. Mack Brown was 80-69-1 at Tulane and UNC. He never won the ACC and came in 2nd only 3 times in 10 years. He did turn around the program (his first two years were 1-10) and he left them with a 10-2 and a 10-1 (left before bowl) record in the last two seasons. There's more of a track record with Mack Brown, but it's not like he was significantly more successful than someone like Strong. His best bowl appearance was the Gator bowl, which he went to twice.

Charlie Strong only has 4 years. But he was bowl eligible every year, won the league twice, and won the Sugar Bowl.

Look, what suggests racism to people is a certain combination: white, old southerner who suggests that a successful black man isn't good enough to run something, but instead, despite their success, is only good enough to assist someone.

Does that mean he meant it racially, or that racism even entered the man's thoughts? No. The article mentioned that he was good friends with Mack Brown, so I can imagine him being upset that a friend was sort of forced out, and they didn't replace him with someone like Harbaugh or Gruden, and that's that. But I get why it set people's antennae off: it's the sort of person and the sort of thing said for a very long time with the racial agenda.
 
He sounds like one of those old farts who believed black men didnt have the poise or intelligence to play QB. They make fine WRs and RBs but not QBs. Strong is a proven HC but this doosh says he would make a fine coordinator???

I parked next to an old-fart "Iron Duke" at the 1999 Final Four. We chatted a bit and he told us that each team could have one player that couldn't meet the normal Duke admission criteria. While that was fine for basketball, he lamented that it really hurt his first love, the football team. "That's why can never get a decent tailback" he said.
 
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Wow. Guess ol' Red was pissed they couldn't get Saban. When you have a crapload of money like that I guess you don't have to worry about sounding racist. I think that card gets played too often, but this is one case where people might have a point if they call Red on it.

Red sounds like the CT HS FB coaches assn types who were defending Pasqualoni. Has he not seen what Sumlin is doing at A&M?

That wasn't racist nor did it sound racist.
 
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