KenPom Rankings since 1997

[whaler11]

What does this mean?

it means that his model which is proven to be very accurate ignores the bias that people feel the need to cry about when they don’t like the results.

 

[Waquoit]

it means that his model which is proven to be very accurate ignores the bias that people feel the need to cry about when they don’t like the results.

Accurate at what?

 

[whaler11]

Accurate at what?

Determining the realtive quality of college basketball teams.

If you disagree i’m more than happy to book your wagers against the kenpom score prediction.

 

[Waquoit]

Determining the realtive quality of college basketball teams.

If you disagree i’m more than happy to book your wagers against the kenpom score prediction.

I'm sure you would be happy to book my bets. But you seem like the kind of guy that wouldn't pay off. But I'm sure you would have good explanation.

 

[whaler11]

I'm sure you would be happy to book my bets. But you seem like the kind of guy that wouldn't pay off. But I'm sure you would have good explanation.

lol - yeah making up a idiotic personal attack is about all you’ve got when youve just been spewing nonsense

i actually put my money where my mouth is.... don’t worry i knew you arent one to back up when you flap your gums

 

[Waquoit]

Projection. You’re the one that has to add the slight when just the answer would have sufficed. And I have always found the big mouths being the hardest to collect from. So Ken Pom is good when you want to say my team is better than yours. Fine.

 

[whaler11]

Projection. You’re the one that has to add the slight when just the answer would have sufficed. And I have always found the big mouths being the hardest to collect from. So Ken Pom is good when you want to say my team is better than yours. Fine.

lol. Half this makes no sense you are more wrong about me than kenpom.

you dont like the answer. that a reflection on you champ not the model.

 

[VKong]

I love Kenpom. What I'm seeing here is that the last few years destroyed us (obv). Compare this through 2014 and we're probably top 10 or top 5.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

ITT: People not understanding this is the guys ranking of potential head coach vacancies using his numbers and a few tweaks to account for recency and league.

 

[Scrutineer]

Here's the writeup about it:
Program ratings | The kenpom.com blog




I bet we get a boost next year for the Big East (obviously especially if we win some games this year, too).

Probably would have been top 10 easily if we hadn't had three straight losing seasons. As Parcells used to say you are what your record says you are.

 

[GoDAWGS]

So let me get this straight...the team with the most championships in that span is ranked #19?
Tells you all you need to know about KenPom.

Its math and models, "all models are wrong, but allot of them are useful" look at the parameters and decide for your self what it means

 

[StepbackCity]

This stuff is BS and opinionated. UConn is the best tho.

 

[freescooter]

Utter nonsense. Why not 1957? Or 2007? Or 1964. The date changes everything. Why not 1948? Or 1939 when the NCAA tourney started??

 

[jleves]

AAC RANKINGS
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	Team	Conf	Rtg	Best		Worst		Median	Top 10	Top 25	Top 50	CH	F4	S16	R1
19​	Connecticut​	Amer​	+22.66​	2​	2009​	179​	2018​	26​	6​	11​	15​	4​	5​	9​	14​
22​	Memphis​	Amer​	+21.83​	2​	2008​	161​	2018​	49​	4​	5​	12​	0​	1​	4​	10​
30​	Cincinnati​	Amer​	+20.58​	2​	2002​	141​	2007​	27​	4​	11​	19​	0​	0​	2​	18​
56​	Wichita St.​	Amer​	+15.97​	6​	2014​	189​	2001​	64​	2​	7​	10​	0​	1​	3​	8​
66​	Temple​	Amer​	+14.33​	4​	2000​	150​	2014​	59​	1​	6​	10​	0​	0​	2​	12​
86​	Tulsa​	Amer​	+10.17​	7​	2000​	211​	2006​	85​	1​	2​	5​	0​	0​	1​	6​
89​	SMU​	Amer​	+9.18​	11​	2017​	283​	2008​	130​	0​	2​	4​	0​	0​	0​	2​
92​	Houston​	Amer​	+8.54​	12​	2019​	230​	1998​	132​	0​	2​	2​	0​	0​	1​	3​
123​	UCF​	Amer​	+4.32​	34​	2019​	299​	1997​	147​	0​	0​	1​	0​	0​	0​	3​
124​	South Florida​	Amer​	+4.12​	48​	2012​	292​	2017​	132​	0​	0​	1​	0​	0​	0​	1​
175​	Tulane​	Amer​	-0.23​	68​	1997​	285​	2014​	196​	0​	0​	0​	0​	0​	0​	0​
182​	East Carolina​	Amer​	-1.33​	109​	1997​	307​	2018​	191​	0​	0​	0​	0​	0​	0​	0​

BIG EAST RANKINGS
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	Team	Conf	Rtg	Best		Worst		Median	Top 10	Top 25	Top 50	CH	F4	S16	R1
7​	Villanova​	BE​	+30.03​	1​	2018​	91​	1998​	28​	6​	11​	15​	2​	3​	6​	16​
25​	Xavier​	BE​	+21.48​	12​	1998​	81​	2005​	31​	0​	11​	16​	0​	0​	7​	17​
33​	Marquette​	BE​	+19.81​	11​	2002​	113​	1999​	36​	0​	6​	13​	0​	1​	4​	13​
36​	Georgetown​	BE​	+19.32​	4​	2007​	124​	2004​	44​	2​	7​	12​	0​	1​	3​	10​
44​	Creighton​	BE​	+17.69​	15​	2013​	116​	2010​	51​	0​	2​	11​	0​	0​	0​	12​
47​	Butler​	BE​	+17.53​	12​	2010​	145​	2005​	36​	0​	7​	14​	0​	2​	5​	15​
53​	Providence​	BE​	+16.43​	24​	2004​	162​	2000​	69​	0​	2​	7​	0​	0​	1​	7​
67​	Seton Hall​	BE​	+14.33​	26​	2018​	117​	2013​	76​	0​	0​	4​	0​	0​	1​	7​
75​	St. John's​	BE​	+12.40​	7​	1999​	211​	2016​	79​	1​	1​	5​	0​	0​	1​	6​
101​	DePaul​	BE​	+7.20​	30​	2000​	233​	1997​	150​	0​	0​	2​	0​	0​	0​	2​

To put this in perspective, removing UConn from the AAC rankings:
AAC 95
NBE 49

If you include UConn in both:
AAC 89
NBE 42

Remember, this is intended to be a head coaching destination rating based on conference and team performance. Seems like UConn would raise up several spots automatically by being in the BE. Start winning again and we're a top 10 destination for coaches and hopefully recruits.

I just really like numbers!

 

[whaler11]

The morans bleating about KP in this thread are the type of idiots who don’t think Mike Trout is the AL MVP.

 

[navery12]

The morans bleating about KP in this thread are the type of idiots who don’t think Mike Trout is the AL MVP.

How can Mike Trout be MVP, the Angels are in 4th place?

 

[Guapo]

Lotta dumb in this thread wow

 

[Zissou]

Ugh. His stupid paywall so I can't see the results.

1. Duke
2. Kentucky
3. Kansas
4. North Carolina
5. Arizona
6. Michigan State
7. Villanova
8. Louisville
9. Florida
10. Texas

 

[polycom]

So this is how it happened... facts are based on opinion in America now...

 

[AllAbout5]

Biggest surprises to me were Texas at #10 and Maryland at #14.

Texas more so for the lack of success, and Maryland because I think it's a fish out of water in the Big10 (albeit a very rich fish).

I’m very surprised by Virginia too. I’ve also thought Syracuse was highly overrated

 

[Devland]

I'm sure fans of all 18 teams ahead of us in these rankings would gladly trade their number in the ranking column or our number in the championship column. There is really only one truly meaningful column in that chart,

 

[freescooter]

Determining the realtive quality of college basketball teams.

If you disagree i’m more than happy to book your wagers against the kenpom score prediction.

Accurate in any given season but this sort of ranking is beneath him. I get lots of people live this stuff but seriously? The 1999 Big East was nothing like the 2017 Big East. And a low ranked team that wins it all is never getting the same taking as a great team. And that doesn’t even account for rule changes training changes and so on.

 

[navery12]

The 13 most debatable and surprising teams in Ken Pomeroy's ranking of all 353 college basketball programs

How does UConn, which has more national titles than any school in the past 25 years, not even crack the top 15?

www.cbssports.com

Connecticut
KenPom program ranking: No. 19
Probably the most controversial listing in Pomeroy's rankings, which is saying something considering we are talking about a top-20 program here.
"The conference drags them down a little bit," Pomeroy said of UConn. "If I plug in the Big East for them, they might move up two or three spots. But given how spotty their track record has been recently, and they're in the seventh-best league in the country, it kind of makes sense."
But UConn's so fascinating because four national championships -- the most of any program in the past 25 years -- isn't enough to get the Huskies onto the top shelf. What's the hold-up? Well, Pomeroy told me that NCAA Tournament performance did not factor into these rankings. Disagree with that if you will, but Pomeroy's rankings have never put extra emphasis into March Madness success: beating good teams in the tournament inherently boosts your standing in his rankings as is. This IS about season-long performance.
"Obviously tournament performance is going to help you," Pomeroy said. "You don't get bonus points for winning a national title. UConn has been pretty good at busting my system."
In fact, UConn's title runs inarguably helped its positioning, but also the 2011 title-winning team (which finished 10th in the final KenPom rankings that season) and the 2014 team (15th) are the lowest-rated champs in his database.

 

[Waquoit]

"Obviously tournament performance is going to help you," Pomeroy said. ... UConn has been pretty good at busting my system."

Jay Bilas must have been using KenPom when he predicted a UConn loss in every tournament game they played in 2011.