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OT: Kemba traded to Thunder

HuskyHawk said:
Maybe. That's rare for an undrafted player. What I would "hope to select" at 16 is not a center. I believe in Time Lord, so I hope Brad packages Langford, Thompson and some other riff raff and trades them.
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Gotta think bob is on the block as well after this trade
 
Depending on potential roster moves & projected cap, looks like the C's could have $25-30 million to spend in free agency after 2022 or if they go nuclear $65-70 million in 2023 + Brown/Tatum.
 
M.S.G. said:
Not for nothing, but Moses Brown is a promising young big. Had a great final 2 months for OKC. Just sayin'
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7'2", 21, and put up 9 & 9. Not bad.

It's just sad to see my favorite team pick up one of my favorite players and then spit him out.

But his knees are shot and, frankly, as a shoot-first PG he's not a great fit with Tatum and Brown anyway.
 
nomar said:
Why? They probably grabbed Brown because of his value, not because they were looking to replace Time Lord.
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Bob is due to be paid big soon.

And frankly is one of the other few assets they have left to pair with tt to add a rotation player
 
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Three main reasons I watch about 17 minutes of NBA play per year, including the playoffs:
-very few games with any UConn players lately;
-manufacturing "great" plays by requiring 4 steps before calling traveling;
-the "music" and sounds of a beating bass drum as the background for the 9 people chanting "defense"......
-the contracts which make it difficult for players like Latrell Sprewell to "feed their families". Horford, for example, will only have been paid $299,851,245 upon completion of his current contract. Imagine, he'll forever have to live with the stigma that he never made $300,000,000.
 
Umami Zen said:
Familiarity with OKC head coach from UConn days?

The rest of Kemba's NBA career will be more about which teams will take his contract vs his play on the floor. There's still gas in the tank with the right situation.
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I doubt he’ll ever play out that contract
 
Psolo12 said:


Brad Stevens first move as GM is an absolutely horrible one. Kemba didn't have a great year but this trade makes absolutely no sense.
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Salary dump. Makes sense, he clearly did not live up to his contract in Boston.
 
Probably would have had his number retired if he stayed in Charlotte, but LaMelo Ball, surprisingly, very much has such an opportunity now.
 
nomar said:
Why? They probably grabbed Brown because of his value, not because they were looking to replace Time Lord.
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the Q said:
Bob is due to be paid big soon.

And frankly is one of the other few assets they have left to pair with tt to add a rotation player
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I expect Thompson to be on the block rather than Bob, unless somebody blows them away with an offer. Thompson doesn't really fit. Bob's passing ability really makes him a rare true 5 that can play in this offense. But then we don't know who is going to coach the team.
 
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Watchdog said:
Three main reasons I watch about 17 minutes of NBA play per year, including the playoffs:
-very few games with any UConn players lately;
-manufacturing "great" plays by requiring 4 steps before calling traveling;
-the "music" and sounds of a beating bass drum as the background for the 9 people chanting "defense"......
-the contracts which make it difficult for players like Latrell Sprewell to "feed their families". Horford, for example, will only have been paid $299,851,245 upon completion of his current contract. Imagine, he'll forever have to live with the stigma that he never made $300,000,000.
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I agree with every thing you said but I am not interested in watching a 3 point shooting contest every game. Get rid of the 3 point shot and add some strategy to the game and maybe I will watch. And players complaining about every foul call against them.
 
You can’t make that size of a contract and need as many games off as he required. Plus there were times where when he did play it wasn’t the old Kemba from Charlotte days.
Boston got out from under a terrible contract and unfortunately kemba gets shipped off to basketball purgatory. Was hoping if he was moved it could have been to a contender.
 
scotty0330 said:
You can’t make that size of a contract and need as many games off as he required. Plus there were times where when he did play it wasn’t the old Kemba from Charlotte days.
Boston got out from under a terrible contract and unfortunately kemba gets shipped off to basketball purgatory. Was hoping if he was moved it could have been to a contender.
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The thing is with Kemba, being on a contender "exposed" him. He went from that plucky little engine that could down in Charlotte to a max contract player who is a total defensive liability with no knees. if he can tough out 5 more above-average years at a non-contender/borderline playoff team below the radar, he becomes a fringe-HOF guy with a pretty solid what could have been narrative. If he ends up on another contender, he falls back into his current overpaid, injury prone, one dimensional-player label and may not get much more than the vet minimum once his current deal ends. Its sad but Kemba isn't a championship level starter at this stage of his career.
 
Great opportunity for the Celtics with FA signings in 2022/3 and it will be good for Kemba.
Kemba can play with a coach he knows (Mark D was a student assistant at UConn) and it will give him the opportunity to have a good year and take advantage of FA in 2023 - his option year I think. Stevens respects Kemba and made sure he constructed a deal that kept Kemba's future very much in the mix.
The Celtics could no longer pay that money for someone who just doesn't fit in the roster, simply not enough of the basketball to share with Marcus, Tatum and Brown. If Prichard didn't have such a good year I don't think this would have happened.
Horford did well in Boston and there is no reason he can't be productive over next 3 years.
I would get rid of Fournier in a heartbeat - Thompson I would keep
The Celtics have just begun
 
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gtcam said:
Great opportunity for the Celtics with FA signings in 2022/3 and it will be good for Kemba.
Kemba can play with a coach he knows (Mark D was a student assistant at UConn) and it will give him the opportunity to have a good year and take advantage of FA in 2023 - his option year I think. Stevens respects Kemba and made sure he constructed a deal that kept Kemba's future very much in the mix.
The Celtics could no longer pay that money for someone who just doesn't fit in the roster, simply not enough of the basketball to share with Marcus, Tatum and Brown. If Prichard didn't have such a good year I don't think this would have happened.
Horford did well in Boston and there is no reason he can't be productive over next 3 years.
I would get rid of Fournier in a heartbeat - Thompson I would keep
The Celtics have just begun
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I think they’re toast the next 2 years, which is why the moving of 16 is brutal
 
Butch said:
Probably would have had his number retired if he stayed in Charlotte, but LaMelo Ball, surprisingly, very much has such an opportunity now.
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Ball will NEVER stay in Charlotte - his father will ensure that - its LA, Miami or NYC/Brooklyn bound and soon
That's the Ball family MO
 
gtcam said:
Ball will NEVER stay in Charlotte - his father will ensure that - its LA, Miami or NYC/Brooklyn bound and soon
That's the Ball family MO
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Let’s see how lonzo plays out.

Let’s see if he plays out his rookie deal rather than sign a big deal that NO matches
 
the Q said:
I think they’re toast the next 2 years, which is why the moving of 16 is brutal
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I dont see it that way - Kemba did very little and they played better without him in the lineup more times than not - they needed a big that has an offensive game - Horford gives them that option - I see them in the playoffs, with Tatum, Brown, Marcus all healthy they are very hard to defend
 
gtcam said:
Ball will NEVER stay in Charlotte - his father will ensure that - its LA, Miami or NYC/Brooklyn bound and soon
That's the Ball family MO
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Jordan is above his pops and will always be, in this world order. So time shall tell. LaMelo can be the Dwayne Wade of Charlotte, and the Carolinas are a decent sized market. The Heat do have the southeastern US riding it's bandwagon coattails right now.

Marc Lasry is a snotty man who also has some power and was able to get Giannis to stay in Milwaukee.
 
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bendm said:
i wouldnt call a 20 million difference similarly bad
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Also, apparently the final year of Horford's deal isn't fully guaranteed but I can't find the specifics.
 
Brochacho said:
The thing is with Kemba, being on a contender "exposed" him. He went from that plucky little engine that could down in Charlotte to a max contract player who is a total defensive liability with no knees. if he can tough out 5 more above-average years at a non-contender/borderline playoff team below the radar, he becomes a fringe-HOF guy with a pretty solid what could have been narrative. If he ends up on another contender, he falls back into his current overpaid, injury prone, one dimensional-player label and may not get much more than the vet minimum once his current deal ends. Its sad but Kemba isn't a championship level starter at this stage of his career.
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Ehh, I'd say the knee injury was the main problem, which I don't believe was a major issue, or maybe not an issue at all in Charlotte. You can hide one bad defender. On a contender it should be easier to.
 
Lefty2one said:
Also, apparently the final year of Horford's deal isn't fully guaranteed but I can't find the specifics.
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Only $14.5M guaranteed for 2022-23, $19.5M if the Celtics make the 2022 Finals, fully guaranteed if they win the 2022 Finals
 
navery12 said:
Only $14.5M guaranteed for 2022-23, $19.5M if the Celtics make the 2022 Finals, fully guaranteed if they win the 2022 Finals
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Bad job by Al’s agent, who was obviously counting on him being in Philly. At least his odds went up with this. Anna seems happy.
 
navery12 said:
Only $14.5M guaranteed for 2022-23, $19.5M if the Celtics make the 2022 Finals, fully guaranteed if they win the 2022 Finals
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Yeah there’s next to no chance of it being more than 14.5m
 
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