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It was reported that Karen Aston is out as the head coach of the University of Texas' women's basketball team. Should have kept Gail Goestenkors. Duke should have, too.
 
chrissaran said:
It was reported that Karen Aston is out as the head coach of the University of Texas' women's basketball team. Should have kept Gail Goestenkors. Duke should have, too.
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Lol @ Goestenkors. First of all, she resigned.

Just because Aston didn't work out doesn't mean she was worse than Goestenkors.

And obviously, of course Duke should've kept her.
 
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Wowsa
Just saw it.
Good recruiter, questionable coaching chops

After perusing the AP announcement, I noticed that the majority of folks that commented thought that her coaching was just fine and that the admin had made a mistake...Hmmm.
 
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Texas spent big bucks to get a top tier name softball coach when they opened the vault to get Oregon’s Mike White. Are they willing to go that big for basketball?
 
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[QUOTE="JordyG, post: 3503573, member: 6819"
Now for the other shoe to drop.
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What shoe is that Jordy?
(I do remember your prediction re: KA...but the other?)
 
Just 4 years ago, Karen Aston looked like she had turned to corner at TX. A year after getting walloped by UConn in the Sweet 16 in Albany, the Longhorns faced the Huskies again in the Elite 8 in Bridgeport. Against one of the greatest teams in the history of WBB, TX held their own before falling 86-65, finishing the season at 31-5, the Longhorns best record under Aston.

But from that point on, despite fielding some very talented teams, TX never seemed to be able to play up to that level, losing a number of games to both lower ranked and unranked teams. What was even worse, is that over the next 4 years, Kim Mulkey and the Lady Bears had the Longhorns number every time they played, and the gap between the two programs appeared to get wider every season.
 
Texas cares about beating Baylor, period. I don't know how many coaches are going to be able to do that. Although there is certainly enough talent down here that they should be able to!
 
sarals24 said:
Texas cares about beating Baylor, period. I don't know how many coaches are going to be able to do that. Although there is certainly enough talent down here that they should be able to!
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Always has been enough ...they just didn’t know how to develop it
 
JordyG said:
As I predicted quite a while ago, and to many here and otherwise, no real surprise.

Now for the other shoe to drop.
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Don't say it or it won't happen. ;)
 
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Most of the Top 10 programs recruit heavily in Texas and its often a tough place to coach (look at Shaka Smart on the men's basketball side and Tom Herman for football) with difficult alum expectations. Even with all of its money and great recruiting territory, perhaps Texas needs to look for the best coach, not just the highest profile "face card."
 
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Plebe said:
Lol @ Goestenkors. First of all, she resigned.

Just because Aston didn't work out doesn't mean she was worse than Goestenkors.

And duh, of course Duke should've kept her.
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Duh, of course Duke should have kept her is an insult. What if I started a reply to your post with Duh. Grow up and answer like a grownup.
 
msf22b said:
Wowsa
Just saw it.
Good recruiter, questionable coaching chops

After perusing the AP announcement, I noticed that the majority of folks that commented thought that her coaching was just fine and that the admin had made a mistake...Hmmm.
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With a 19-11 record and all that talent, I would say that's a step or 2 back.
 
chrissaran said:
Duh, of course Duke should have kept her is an insult. What if I started a reply to your post with Duh. Grow up and answer like a grownup.
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I didn't mean it that way it all. Shorthand for "obviously". I'll edit.
 
chrissaran said:
It was reported that Karen Aston is out as the head coach of the University of Texas' women's basketball team. Should have kept Gail Goestenkors. Duke should have, too.
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There's this thing called the internet where if you type in Gail Goestenkors you can actually see her resume and what she did/did not accomplish at Texas. Look at here relative standings within the Big12-abysmal. So let me be a tad direct here, Gail was an abject failure at Texas, Karen was significantly better at recruiting and the results showed that. However Karen is a terrible offense coach and her teams never developed any style or flow. Discipline on offense was always lacking. For three years she had an awesome guard combo with Brooke McCarty and Ariel Atkins that hid these flaws. Again, Karen did a great job representing the Univ of Texas and sold it well, she just couldn't coach a lick. Curious to see what name or direction this new AD wants to go down. Unlike softball, many WCBB Coaches do get good pay. I know Southie thinks Kelly Graves would leave but I completely disagree. Not sure was "star" coach that leaves open to pursue.
 
DefenseBB said:
There's this thing called the internet where if you type in Gail Goestenkors you can actually see her resume and what she did/did not accomplish at Texas. Look at here relative standings within the Big12-abysmal. So let me be a tad direct here, Gail was an abject failure at Texas, Karen was significantly better at recruiting and the results showed that. However Karen is a terrible offense coach and her teams never developed any style or flow. Discipline on offense was always lacking. For three years she had an awesome guard combo with Brooke McCarty and Ariel Atkins that hid these flaws. Again, Karen did a great job representing the Univ of Texas and sold it well, she just couldn't coach a lick. Curious to see what name or direction this new AD wants to go down. Unlike softball, many WCBB Coaches do get good pay. I know Southie thinks Kelly Graves would leave but I completely disagree. Not sure was "star" coach that leaves open to pursue.
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I wouldn't think that Graves would leave Oregon for any job in the country with the talent he's able to bring in every year now. He's got security and they love him up there. With bonuses he made $685K this on a new contract that runs thru 25-26 worth $6M over 7 years. Aston made a base of $515K this year.
 
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Any idea how many head coaching jobs Chris Dailey has turned down? Or do they even bother trying any more?
 
Dokey said:
Any idea how many head coaching jobs Chris Dailey has turned down? Or do they even bother trying any more?
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WHHHIIIRRRR! That's a whistle on a foul against Dokey. Please put him in the "time-out" box for even suggesting such heresy!!!!
CD is perfectly content and looking forward to the next 5 years to make UConn WCBB bad for everyone...Let's resume the Texas coach discussion sans CD...:rolleyes:
 
DefenseBB said:
There's this thing called the internet where if you type in Gail Goestenkors you can actually see her resume and what she did/did not accomplish at Texas. Look at here relative standings within the Big12-abysmal. So let me be a tad direct here, Gail was an abject failure at Texas, Karen was significantly better at recruiting and the results showed that. However Karen is a terrible offense coach and her teams never developed any style or flow. Discipline on offense was always lacking. For three years she had an awesome guard combo with Brooke McCarty and Ariel Atkins that hid these flaws. Again, Karen did a great job representing the Univ of Texas and sold it well, she just couldn't coach a lick. Curious to see what name or direction this new AD wants to go down. Unlike softball, many WCBB Coaches do get good pay. I know Southie thinks Kelly Graves would leave but I completely disagree. Not sure was "star" coach that leaves open to pursue.
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I didn’t think Mike White would leave Oregon where he was building a softball dynasty for Texas but the money was obscene for the job. I don’t think Kelly Graves would leave Oregon for Texas—wait, I just read my first sentence again.

If Texas wants to beat Baylor in women’s basketball, it goes along with the even more tough task of beating Oklahoma in softball. That’s why they lured Mike White away.
 
BobbyJ said:
I wouldn't think that Graves would leave Oregon for any job in the country with the talent he's able to bring in every year now. He's got security and they love him up there. With bonuses he made $685K this on a new contract that runs thru 25-26 worth $6M over 7 years. Aston made a base of $515K this year.
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TX certainly has the money to make their WBB coach the highest paid in the nation. The question is, do they care enough about WBB to pay for a top young coach?
 
DefenseBB said:
WHHHIIIRRRR! That's a whistle on a foul against Dokey. Please put him in the "time-out" box for even suggesting such heresy!!!!
CD is perfectly content and looking forward to the next 5 years to make UConn WCBB bad for everyone...Let's resume the Texas coach discussion sans CD...:rolleyes:
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Oh, I know better. Thankfully, so does CD. I wasn’t suggesting her for the job, just glad she’s at home in Storrs.
 
oldude said:
TX certainly has the money to make their WBB coach the highest paid in the nation. The question is, do they care enough about WBB to pay for a top young coach?
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The comments above seem incongruous with each other. Texas will not pay some Top Young Coach the highest salary in the nation. Most Top WCBB have built the program they are at as opposed to a Pitino, Calipari or a Barnes type that have traveled around. Since WCBB has really only been around the NCAA since 1983, there is no "standard" prototype of reloading coaches like Kentucky, UCLA, Louisville etc.
And YES, a resounding YES, that Texas does care about WCBB. They exhibited this by pressuring Gail to resign and by bringing in a "Texas roots" coach in Aston and now while Karen has brought them back to a "national" name, she's underachieved to what Texas is expecting so that "non-renewal" tells me they do care. What makes you think they don't?
 
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