JUDGE DID IT! (Merged thread)

[ochoopsfan]

There is a difference between MVP and POY. The MLB MVP almost always goes to a player on a good team.

The Sporting News Player of the Year is often the same player, but sometimes goes to a player who had a better season for a team that’s not as good.

Ernie Banks won the MVP in 1958 and 1959
Cubs record in 1958 was 72-82 and in 1959 it was 74-80-1
Neither was a "good team". Both teams finished 5th in the NL

In fact, seven modern-era MVP winners were on teams with a losing record: Giancarlo Stanton (2017), Trout (2016), Alex Rodriguez (2003), Cal Ripken Jr. (1991), Andre Dawson (1987) and Ernie Banks (1958 and 1959).

 

[Lynx23]

Judge having a brutal series. 5 strikeouts now and 1 BB in his 6 AB's

Got that right. I was at the game last night when he had four strikeouts and a weak ground ball. Not sure what's going on. Maybe he just needs to get away from Yankee Stadium. There were boos last night from Yankee fans, and a fight nearly broke out in front of me between one Yankee fan and another Yankee fan who was relentlessly screaming at Judge. Security had to step in. Judge could break out of his slump in Cleveland tonight and this could all be moot. At least I hope so.

 

[The deacon]

Got that right. I was at the game last night when he had four strikeouts and a weak ground ball. Not sure what's going on. Maybe he just needs to get away from Yankee Stadium. There were boos last night from Yankee fans, and a fight nearly broke out in front of me between one Yankee fan and another Yankee fan who was relentlessly screaming at Judge. Security had to step in. Judge could break out of his slump in Cleveland tonight and this could all be moot. At least I hope so.

Sadly for Yankee fans, this is nothing new for Aaron. He's struck out about a third of his career post-season plate appearances and has five hits in his last 48 times at bat.

After such a great season, it's been sad to watch to this point in this series.

 

[Scoe]

Bonds didn’t do well in the postseason either. It’s not the NBA where you just get it to your star player and he takes over the game, or the NFL having your qb run the offense. Your best player in lineup gets only 4-5 plate appearances against better and smarter pitching.

 

[The deacon]

Bonds didn’t do well in the postseason either. It’s not the NBA where you just get it to your star player and he takes over the game, or the NFL having your qb run the offense. Your best player in lineup gets only 4-5 plate appearances against better and smarter pitching.

Agreed, Scoe... very well said. However, I just checked Bonds' stats and saw that in his one World Series, in 2002, he had an OBP of .700 in seven games, 21 of 30!

Your point that not all stars fare well in the post-season is true. Ted Williams would be a great example.

 

[cohenzone]

Ernie Banks won the MVP in 1958 and 1959
Cubs record in 1958 was 72-82 and in 1959 it was 74-80-1
Neither was a "good team". Both teams finished 5th in the NL

In fact, seven modern-era MVP winners were on teams with a losing record: Giancarlo Stanton (2017), Trout (2016), Alex Rodriguez (2003), Cal Ripken Jr. (1991), Andre Dawson (1987) and Ernie Banks (1958 and 1959).

Difference is Yankees won their division and Judge wasnt just the reason, he also broke a record and led the world in every offensive category. Would be silly if he isn’t named MVP. Excellent fielder too.

 

[ochoopsfan]

Judge, last 7 and 15 games of the season. Judge 175 SO(3rd most in the AL) Houdini wants to know where did he go?

Duration	AB	R	H	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	AVG
Last 7 Games	22	5	5	2	3	6	8	0	.227
Last 15 Games	45	11	11	3	4	19	17	0	.244

 

[eebmg]

Judge, last 7 and 15 games of the season. Judge 175 SO(3rd most in the AL) Houdini wants to know where did he go?

Duration	AB	R	H	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	AVG
Last 7 Games	22	5	5	2	3	6	8	0	.227
Last 15 Games	45	11	11	3	4	19	17	0	.244

Let's not judge Judge to hastily. Can't pass sentence until all the evidence is in.