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2021 Recruiting: Jordan Hawkins



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Maxpreps has DeMatha as the third best high school team in the country last year. When was the last time we landed a player from a top 3 high school team in the country? I don’t believe Carltons DeMatha team was that good.
We should have two Oak Hill guys (Kofi, Cam Thomas) and a Montverde guy (Precious) but all suspiciously chose programs known for dishing out $$. Coincidence??
 
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16. Archbishop Wood (Warminster, Pa.)
2019-20 Resume:
(22-5) Advanced to the PIAA Class 5A state quarterfinals*
Outlook: The Vikings appear to be the team to beat out of the Philadelphia Catholic League next year, returning four All-Catholic League performers. Rahsool Diggins won Catholic League MVP, while Jaylen Stinson, Daeshon Shepherd and Marcus Randolph each received all-league honors.

17. DeMatha (Hyattsville, Md.)
2019-20 Resume:
(30-3) No. 5 in final Top 25. WCAC regular season, tournament champions
Outlook: While the Stags have finished in the Top 10 in each of the past three years, next season will be present new challenges without stars Earl Timberlake Jr. and Hunter Dickinson. Top returners Jordan Hawkins, Tyrell Ward and Elijah Hawkins will look to fill the void.
 
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Is the longer this commitment gets drawn out a bad thing? Any chance of him flipping schools?
 
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I’m torn between not wanting to get ahead of myself and wanting to speculate endlessly because I don’t have much else to do.

A grad transfer big could just be a role player. Maybe not David Onuorah or Eric Cobb types, but someone who is clearly a bench piece just in case our young bigs need time to develop. If Bouk is gone, we could aim high if we’re looking for a SG, although I don’t know who we realistically have a shot at. Maybe we already have all the backcourt pieces we need.
So are you aiming higher or lower than David O or Cobb? If lower, geez.
 
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So are you aiming higher or lower than David O or Cobb? If lower, geez.
Oh, higher. I meant that we shouldn’t need a starter at the 4 or 5 with Akok and Sanogo. We’ll have Springs and Brown-Ferguson. If we also get Samson Johnson, then a grad transfer big wouldn’t need to be an impact player, but more of a depth piece.
 
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Oh, higher. I meant that we shouldn’t need a starter at the 4 or 5 with Akok and Sanogo. We’ll have Springs and Brown-Ferguson. If we also get Samson Johnson, then a grad transfer big wouldn’t need to be an impact player, but more of a depth piece.
Why not just bring in a regular recruit with some actual upside?
 
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Why not just bring in a regular recruit with some actual upside?
multiple insiders have said hurley will wait until the spring/summer when bouk makes a decision before filling his spot. at that point in time an elite highschool recruit isn't realisitc unless it's a reclass like sanogo, thus the transfer/grad transfer talk. there are pros and cons that have been discussed in relation to reclasses/transfers/grad transfers
 
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Wow, there really is no bottom of the barrel for U
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if the season is canceled would that make bouk more or less likely to go pro?

Has he done enough already? A big soph season (as I am expecting) would make it a no brainer.
 
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if the season is canceled would that make bouk more or less likely to go pro?

Has he done enough already? A big soph season (as I am expecting) would make it a no brainer.
It would be really unfortunate but I think he would have to go. His first round chances go way way way down if hes 21 or over when he enters the draft.
 
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It would be really unfortunate but I think he would have to go. His first round chances go way way way down if hes 21 or over when he enters the draft.
I wouldn't apply normal rules to this as far as how teams are going to treat guys who are a year old for their draft class because of a pandemic, though I would tend to think he'll go this season regardless of what happens.
 
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It would be really unfortunate but I think he would have to go. His first round chances go way way way down if hes 21 or over when he enters the draft.
just off the top of my head- i think gordon, okafor, and kemba would beg to differ as they all left after their junior seasons and were taken in the lotto

7 upperclassmen went in the 2019 first round
7 upperclassmen went in the 2018 first round
 
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just off the top of my head- i think gordon, okafor, and kemba would beg to differ as they all left after their junior seasons and were taken in the lotto

6 upperclassmen went in the 2019 first round
7 upperclassmen went in the 2018 first round
2004 was a long time ago, and even Kemba, the best player in the country, fell to 9th.
 
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Why not just bring in a regular recruit with some actual upside?
As far as high school recruits, it doesn’t sound like we’re as likely to target a 2021 big man other than Johnson, because we’re all-in on Clingan for 2022. If we were to bring in another guard for 2021 after Hawkins (hopefully), then I definitely think we’d go for a regular recruit with upside. Honestly, I’d take all the talent we can get, regardless of need, and assuming the staff can sort it all out.
 
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As far as high school recruits, it doesn’t sound like we’re as likely to target a 2021 big man other than Johnson, because we’re all-in on Clingan for 2022. If we were to bring in another guard for 2021 after Hawkins (hopefully), then I definitely think we’d go for a regular recruit with upside. Honestly, I’d take all the talent we can get, regardless of need, and assuming the staff can sort it all out.
I don't see any need for an additional big man on that roster, but a shooter could be useful. I had mentioned Santos because I've seen him play a few times, and when he gets in rhythm he's terrific from 3. Has the size to play 3 or 4 in college, so he could be a Polley/Giffey type.
 
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If we get Johnson we'll have 5 big men on the roster, and that's not counting Martin who could also get minutes at the 4. No need for another big, especially with how basketball is played now
 
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If we get Johnson we'll have 5 big men on the roster, and that's not counting Martin who could also get minutes at the 4. No need for another big, especially with how basketball is played now
Yep and if Clingan is priority in 2022 there’s no need. Probably try and get a Roddy Gayles reclass idk tho
 
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I don't see any need for an additional big man on that roster, but a shooter could be useful. I had mentioned Santos because I've seen him play a few times, and when he gets in rhythm he's terrific from 3. Has the size to play 3 or 4 in college, so he could be a Polley/Giffey type.
I actually agree. The consensus on here seemed to be that we’d rather a grad transfer big. In my original post at the beginning of this discussion I wondered whether we might look for a shooter instead. I guess my point was that IF we were to go after a big man besides Johnson, then we’d really only need a one-year role player. I’d prefer a shooter who could help his for a few years.
 

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