Joe Williams

[Husky68]

Tell me it ain't so, Joe.

 

[Limbo Land]

Back in the day there was a construction job going on across from our dorm, we all needed shelves so we borrowed a number of cement blocks to hold up boards. Joe should not be kicked off team over this. Young people do careless and stupid things. If it was a teammates wallet that raises other issues that will be hard to overcome. Lack of common sense the first among them.

I'm sorry we all do stupid things but liberating some cement blocks.... taking some 4 x 4's is not the same thing as taking a wallet that was not his, using the money and buying something on the credit card. Should he come back sure... but lets not make comparisons to our own lives that are not equal. I took a pint glass from Ted's one night but I sure don't think that is the same as using someone else's identity.

 

[Palatine]

If the allegation is true, Joe not only did something wrong, he did something dumb.

 

[PUPPY4]

I hope we didn't bury this young man, because Huggy Bear says "it wasn't him"

 

[CL82]

Back in the day there was a construction job going on across from our dorm, we all needed shelves so we borrowed a number of cement blocks to hold up boards. Joe should not be kicked off team over this. Young people do careless and stupid things. If it was a teammates wallet that raises other issues that will be hard to overcome. Lack of common sense the first among them.

Different then taking a wallet and fraudulently using a credit card, in my opinion.

 

[CL82]

Back in the day there was a construction job going on across from our dorm, we all needed shelves so we borrowed a number of cement blocks to hold up boards. Joe should not be kicked off team over this. Young people do careless and stupid things. If it was a teammates wallet that raises other issues that will be hard to overcome. Lack of common sense the first among them.

Different than taking a wallet and fraudulently using a credit card, in my opinion.

 

[Jax Husky]

If the allegation is true, Joe not only did something wrong, he did something dumb.

Sure, but to me it was hardly something that should warrant anything major in the way of punishment. A couple game suspension, double secret probation, etc would be sufficient. This was a poor decision by an 18 year old college student. NBD.

 

[APA]

Not quite 18. He'll be 20 in a couple weeks. Not a kid.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

Having read above, i would say its likely that if theres nothing else, he will probably be back in a few weeks.

But thats a big IF

On seeing the headline, my first reaction was, "I hope it's not true." My second was, "please don't be Joe Williams." I'm now on, "I hope it's a misunderstanding."

 

[FAIRTIDES]

If that was a teammate's wallet I doubt this would be in the press and I would imagine Mr. Williams would be one battered pup and probably off the team.

Exactly! A like situation never happened to me during my time as a, so called, athlete. In the Army, I had to deal with one case where a barracks thief was caught red-handed. Without going into detail, my Platoon Sergeant and the Company First Sergeant talked me into allowing them to handle the situation using something the old-timers called "NCO justice." NCO Justice was later explained to me as a less formal, but more effective punishment, than alternative forms defined in the "UCMJ."

 

[Jax Husky]

Not quite 18. He'll be 20 in a couple weeks. Not a kid.

Not a kid I guess, but still a young dumb college student. I can get past that (assuming there is a punishment, and appropriate response by Joe Williams). My understanding is that it was from a found wallet, so it isn't like he actively took it from someone. Not trying to justify it, but one scenario is a dumb mistake, the other puts people in danger.

 

[Nostical]

College kids do all sorts of idiotic stuff.

Yeah they do. So did I. We can debate whether this particular offense by Joe Williams deserves a more or less severe punishment (and for sure there are degrees of criminal behavior) but it's a much broader issue than merely the football team. It was late last night when I saw the thread and I'd spent the day deep in central Kentucky on business in an office that was an homage to the Wildcats, so I may have been a bit woozy and over the top!
See below

 

[huskymedic]

NHRJimFuller 6:20pm via TweetDeck
#UConn's Paul Pasqualoni chose his words carefully regarding status of suspended RB Joe Williams
http://runwayramblings.blogspot.com/2013/08/pasqualoni-doesnt-say-much-on-joe.html

>>Pasqualoni doesn't say much on Joe Williams' status

UConn football coach Paul Pasqualoni chose his words carefully when it came to the possible reinstatement of sophomore tailback Joe Williams after Tuesday's practice.

"I don't know we'll have to wait and see what the final results are," Pasqualoni said. "That's all I can say; I can't comment. We'll go through the process and see."

Williams was arrested on Friday and charged with sixth degree larceny. On Monday UConn announced it was suspending Williams indefinitely.<<

 

[junglehusky]

Exactly! A like situation never happened to me during my time as a, so called, athlete. In the Army, I had to deal with one case where a barracks thief was caught red-handed. Without going into detail, my Platoon Sergeant and the Company First Sergeant talked me into allowing them to handle the situation using something the old-timers called "NCO justice." NCO Justice was later explained to me as a less formal, but more effective punishment, than alternative forms defined in the "UCMJ."

DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED!!!!!?!?!?

 

[UConn9604]

Yeah they do. So did I. We can debate whether this particular offense by Joe Williams deserves a more or less severe punishment (and for sure there are degrees of criminal behavior) but it's a much broader issue than merely the football team. It was late last night when I saw the thread and I'd spent the day deep in central Kentucky on business in an office that was an homage to the Wildcats, so I may have been a bit woozy and over the top!
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Was there anything on the 2011 Final Four? How about the second round in 2006?

 

[Jarhead_1775]

I'm not excusing the comment, just offering a different perspective.

The firefighter has a union, apparently his union contract allows him to be suspended for this behavior. If he doesn't like that, he doesn't have to be a firefighter.

Also, fair or not, public employees are held to a higher standard because the public is paying their salaries. If we don't like the behavior of employees at a company, we can spend our money at their competition. We don't have that choice when it comes to public employees. If we don't like the board of ed/school system in the town we live in we can send our kids to private/parochial schools, but we're still paying for those teachers/administrators, etc.

Not really. It's not about money. I dated a news woman from wfsb once and I asked her why they love to include ANY news story about a fireman that involves any untoward behavior. She said "because you have the public trust. Cops, firemen, and priests are automatic news because of it". We are allowed access to do all kinds of things for the greater public good that an ordinary citizen cannot. So when one of us screws up, a little of that trust is eroded. Btw unions do not protect bad behavior, they merely ensure management follows their own disciplinary process. If the process says zero tolerance for drugs and you get caught, guess what? There's nothing a union can do for you. If you want to continue, we are getting into cesspool territory now and I'd be happy to talk about it there!

 

[Husky68]

My wife reminded me of something last night when I mentioned the Joe suspension. Living in New Orleans about mile from Tulane and joined their "exercise gym". About year ago was working out on lat pull downs and my wedding ring was bothering me so took it off and put it on machine. Did this a couple of times and guess last time forgot to put it back on. Fast forward to that night and notice don't have on, call Tulane gym and someone had found it and "TURNED IT IN".
Quite a contrast to this. Guess finding wallet or lifting it from someone, teammate or not, all same/same to me.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED!!!!!?!?!?

Absolutely not. I was assured that there would be no physical abuse. The senior NCO's thought that the kid was salvageable and wanted to give him a chance to "soldier his way out of trouble." The old time NCO's were priceless. Tough as leather, with huge hearts.