Joe Williams

[Jarhead_1775]

I'm not excusing the comment, just offering a different perspective.

The firefighter has a union, apparently his union contract allows him to be suspended for this behavior. If he doesn't like that, he doesn't have to be a firefighter.

Also, fair or not, public employees are held to a higher standard because the public is paying their salaries. If we don't like the behavior of employees at a company, we can spend our money at their competition. We don't have that choice when it comes to public employees. If we don't like the board of ed/school system in the town we live in we can send our kids to private/parochial schools, but we're still paying for those teachers/administrators, etc.

Not really. It's not about money. I dated a news woman from wfsb once and I asked her why they love to include ANY news story about a fireman that involves any untoward behavior. She said "because you have the public trust. Cops, firemen, and priests are automatic news because of it". We are allowed access to do all kinds of things for the greater public good that an ordinary citizen cannot. So when one of us screws up, a little of that trust is eroded. Btw unions do not protect bad behavior, they merely ensure management follows their own disciplinary process. If the process says zero tolerance for drugs and you get caught, guess what? There's nothing a union can do for you. If you want to continue, we are getting into cesspool territory now and I'd be happy to talk about it there!

 

[Husky68]

My wife reminded me of something last night when I mentioned the Joe suspension. Living in New Orleans about mile from Tulane and joined their "exercise gym". About year ago was working out on lat pull downs and my wedding ring was bothering me so took it off and put it on machine. Did this a couple of times and guess last time forgot to put it back on. Fast forward to that night and notice don't have on, call Tulane gym and someone had found it and "TURNED IT IN".
Quite a contrast to this. Guess finding wallet or lifting it from someone, teammate or not, all same/same to me.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED!!!!!?!?!?

Absolutely not. I was assured that there would be no physical abuse. The senior NCO's thought that the kid was salvageable and wanted to give him a chance to "soldier his way out of trouble." The old time NCO's were priceless. Tough as leather, with huge hearts.