Jewell Loyd Leaving for WNBA

[HoopsFan21]

No I think at best you taking about a 1 year hiatus. Turner appears to be legit. All ND will need is for one of the incoming this year or next to become legit also. I would not bet against either Mabrey or Ogunbowale becoming legit. In one year we are in the (Post Stewie) PS era-much more wide open. Renewed hope for everyone even Lady Vols.

Was thinking about that last night, that in about 10 months Stewie, Mo, and possibly Tuck will be part of a special pre-game ceremony known as Senior Night. It got me thinking about the championship droughts. There was one after D left, and a mini-drought after Maya left. How long will it be after Stewie leaves? Is next year going to be it for Geno in terms of hanging banners? Or is there another D/Maya/Stewie type player out there waiting to join and start the next run of UConn championships?

 

[rvwsleep]

Megan Walker, when added to NC and KLS and Crystal Dangerfield and NB and ... with Geno coaching.

 

[Geno-ista]

Sorry, but this kind of mistake makes me really fargin angry. It was Joe Piscopo, not Joe Pesche.

Omg- I meant Piscopo! dat wall, dat wall, and dat fargin wall!!!! Classic!!!!
Morone deported to Sweden! Claims he's not from there! thanks!

 

[cockhrnleghrn]

Is there any doubt that Diamond DeShields will turn pro after her Junior year???? I say none!!!!

That's still 2 seasons away. It wouldn't surprise me, however.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Loyd's Legacy has changed. http://www.ndinsider.com/basketball...4-9c7e-13f3a2498f19.html#.VScn5vCnfwk.twitter

While unfortunate Jewel will never be considered one of ND's best unless she decides to return for her Senior Year.

 

[DeeHusky]

I'm curious why you included the freshman class for UConn, Baylor and Tennessee in your evaluations but did not include ND's highly rated freshman class in their evaluation ? Loyd's loss is huge blow to ND but somehow I don't think there will be 4 teams better than they will be next year, much less eight (3rd seed).
BTW. Both Tennessee and South Carolina were #1 seeds in 2014. There's no prohibition in having 2 #1 seeds from the same conference in the NCAA playoffs.

I didn't include them because while they are stellar high school players; few freshman players come into freshman seasons making a great impact; which I don't think they will. I also didn't list them because they weren't included in the FF teams I picked. And FYI South Carolina was a 1-seed, and Tennessee was a 2-seed, it just depends on how many other teams they win or lose to because they'll have to player each other 3 times (twice during conference play, and if they both make it to the conference championship final.) I'm not sure if those fours team I chose will be better than I just guessed, it all depends on if Reimer, Allen, Turner, and Westbeld make huge strides in the games because Mabrey is nothing but a shooter; that's it. I don't see her making any huge jumps. One of the freshman will be needed to come in a fill a huge void left by Loyd, which is not going to happen. Ogunbowale? Maybe. Mabrey or Patberg? No.

 

[Striper69]

Legit reason in my book! In fact it probably started when she had the audacity to stay home and play instead of coming to UCONN. And then there was the time she blew off Holly Rowe and did not want to interview when her team was losing and did she really have to swat at the camera to fix her hair like that and then there are the picture of her in the Bikini and then there is that lame thing she did with Nick Cannon on Wilding Out , and there the car that JayZ bought her for graduation-did we ever verify if she really graduated? and she not all that cute anyway, And then there was that lame skit with Drake-He's not a legit rapper anyway he's from Canada, then there was the Olympic trials and I don't think it was fair that Bria and Stef got sent home before her and then there was the rioting at the HS BB game with her father coaching? well she probably started it or at least she didn't do anything to stop it.... why can't she just pick a hair color and stick with it every time I look up she got new hair- probably not her real hair anyway..... and then there is the suggestively placed tattoo which I could never quite read or make out .

Hey...tell us how you really feel!

 

[NewCorn]

Hey...tell us how you really feel!

In my book, Skylar is a great player. I like her fierce competitiveness and will to win. We know she committed at least one sin in her life, not coming to UConn. But I suppose Notre Dame was the right school to attend for absolution.

 

[Striper69]

In my book, Skylar is a great player. I like her fierce competitiveness and will to win. We know she committed at least one sin in her life, not coming to UConn. But I suppose Notre Dame was the right school to attend for absolution.

You have to give Skylar her props. How she was able to guide ND to so many wins against UCONN (noone else has). This is coming from someone who wasn't into WCBB during that period so I missed all those games. I may have watched them but really didn't know who she was. I just thought she was a very attractive girl.

That winning thing hasn't translated to the WNBA but maybe it will. Jewell going to the Storm will make it harder for her though.

 

[Striper69]

Loyd's Legacy has changed. http://www.ndinsider.com/basketball...4-9c7e-13f3a2498f19.html#.VScn5vCnfwk.twitter

While unfortunate Jewel will never be considered one of ND's best unless she decides to return for her Senior Year.

Now that would be sad if the ND people hold this decision against her. Very small of them if they do.

 

[Huskies Rule]

Megan Walker, when added to NC and KLS and Crystal Dangerfield and NB and ... with Geno coaching.

As unlikely as it appears, if we were fortunate enough (please,please) to sign Lauren Cox (2016) and then Walker (2017), on top of Lou, Naph and Crystal... I really think that team would prove to be absolutely unbeatable. For sure. For many years. And the whining from the rest of WCBB would be insufferable. And I would love every beautiful minute of that.

 

[Bestiarius]

Is there any doubt that Diamond DeShields will turn pro after her Junior year???? I say none!!!!

Won't she be eligible after the coming season? It's possible that she will play only one year for Tennessee.

 

[rvwsleep]

I didn't include them because while they are stellar high school players; few freshman players come into freshman seasons making a great impact; which I don't think they will. I also didn't list them because they weren't included in the FF teams I picked. And FYI South Carolina was a 1-seed, and Tennessee was a 2-seed, it just depends on how many other teams they win or lose to because they'll have to player each other 3 times (twice during conference play, and if they both make it to the conference championship final.) I'm not sure if those fours team I chose will be better than I just guessed, it all depends on if Reimer, Allen, Turner, and Westbeld make huge strides in the games because Mabrey is nothing but a shooter; that's it. I don't see her making any huge jumps. One of the freshman will be needed to come in a fill a huge void left by Loyd, which is not going to happen. Ogunbowale? Maybe. Mabrey or Patberg? No.

This response made less sense than your original post. If "few freshman players come into freshman seasons making a great impact" is accurate, why include freshman in your analysis of Tennessee, Baylor and UConn ? And doesn't that contradict or at least give some doubt to the accuracy of your statement "Te'a Cooper instantly picks up the starting PG position" ?
I understand that you don't think ND is a FF team next year but you did dismiss them without mentioning their freshman class while crediting freshman from other teams as helping (e.g. "they also have some quality post players coming in Mompremier and Brown").
You make a definitive statement "One of the freshman will be needed to come in a fill a huge void left by Loyd, which is not going to happen." Then follow it up with a qualifier " Ogunbowale? Maybe". After reading all this, I'm not sure where you stand on freshman and their effect on their new teams.

Finally, why you are insisting that Tennessee was a 2 seed in 2014 is beyond me. Usually, when an error is pointed out, the general response is to make the correction rather than insisting that the inaccuracy is in fact accurate.

 

[mtsuraider06]

Is there any doubt that Diamond DeShields will turn pro after her Junior year???? I say none!!!!

Well, she has said she is using her entire eligibility at Tennessee, so I'll take her word for it. It was either on her Twitter or Instagram.

Personally, I think this whole Diamond leaving TN early talk is just wishful thinking by people who don't want Tennessee to do well. There is no difference in her or Tuck's situation. However, many talk about Morgan winning 5 NCs, but Diamond bailing Tennessee as soon as she can.

It's wishful thinking IMO.

 

[meyers7]

I think if she was just taking more time to weigh her options, then ND wouldn't have put together that press release with quotes from both her and Muffet.

Probably, I was just kinda putting the possibility out there.

 

[macpams]

This response made less sense than your original post. If "few freshman players come into freshman seasons making a great impact" is accurate, why include freshman in your analysis of Tennessee, Baylor and UConn ? And doesn't that contradict or at least give some doubt to the accuracy of your statement "Te'a Cooper instantly picks up the starting PG position" ?
I understand that you don't think ND is a FF team next year but you did dismiss them without mentioning their freshman class while crediting freshman from other teams as helping (e.g. "they also have some quality post players coming in Mompremier and Brown").
You make a definitive statement "One of the freshman will be needed to come in a fill a huge void left by Loyd, which is not going to happen." Then follow it up with a qualifier " Ogunbowale? Maybe". After reading all this, I'm not sure where you stand on freshman and their effect on their new teams.

Finally, why you are insisting that Tennessee was a 2 seed in 2014 is beyond me. Usually, when an error is pointed out, the general response is to make the correction rather than insisting that the inaccuracy is in fact accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Women's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Loyd's Legacy has changed. http://www.ndinsider.com/basketball...4-9c7e-13f3a2498f19.html#.VScn5vCnfwk.twitter

While unfortunate Jewel will never be considered one of ND's best unless she decides to return for her Senior Year.

From the article you cite above: "Knowing what is known now, it’s interesting to look back on Loyd’s recent games to see if the gravity of her impending decision impacted her performance. A 45 percent shooter for the season, Loyd was never better than 38 percent in her last five NCAA Tournament games. She was a dismal 3 of 15 against DePaul, 5 of 18 against Baylor and 4 of 18 against Connecticut."

Wonder if her less than stellar performance and considerable grumbling from ND fans pushed her over the edge in this decision making? I do wish she had made a statement in making the announcement; I think an athlete owes the fans that when they leave early.

 

[rvwsleep]

Well, she has said she is using her entire eligibility at Tennessee, so I'll take her word for it. It was either on her Twitter or Instagram.

Personally, I think this whole Diamond leaving TN early talk is just wishful thinking by people who don't want Tennessee to do well. There is no difference in her or Tuck's situation. However, many talk about Morgan winning 5 NCs, but Diamond bailing Tennessee as soon as she can.

It's wishful thinking IMO.

I think there's some truth about people not wanting to see Tennessee do well. After all, this is a UConn board. However, there is a difference between Tuck's and Diamond's situation. Deshields has jumped from one team already. It makes it seem as more of a possibility that she would jump again.

 

[Striper69]

Beating UCONN was put on her (Jewell's) shoulders. She may have just gotten tired of it.

 

[UcMiami]

I didn't include them because while they are stellar high school players; few freshman players come into freshman seasons making a great impact; which I don't think they will. I also didn't list them because they weren't included in the FF teams I picked. And FYI South Carolina was a 1-seed, and Tennessee was a 2-seed, it just depends on how many other teams they win or lose to because they'll have to player each other 3 times (twice during conference play, and if they both make it to the conference championship final.) I'm not sure if those fours team I chose will be better than I just guessed, it all depends on if Reimer, Allen, Turner, and Westbeld make huge strides in the games because Mabrey is nothing but a shooter; that's it. I don't see her making any huge jumps. One of the freshman will be needed to come in a fill a huge void left by Loyd, which is not going to happen. Ogunbowale? Maybe. Mabrey or Patberg? No.

Just FYI - not sure how the SEC scheduling works but at least this past year SC and TN did not play twice in the regular season.

 

[chrissaran]

Post Diana, Post Maya, Post Breanna. Morgan, Kia, Gabby, Natalie, Katie Lou, Napheesa, De'Janae and then Dangerfield and Irwin. They won't be the only future recruits either. They'll figure it all out. Whether we'll win championships at the rate we have been is unlikely. Then again it was unlikely that we would be winning championships at the rate we are now winning them, 5 in 7 years.

 

[Bestiarius]

Well, she has said she is using her entire eligibility at Tennessee, so I'll take her word for it. It was either on her Twitter or Instagram.

Personally, I think this whole Diamond leaving TN early talk is just wishful thinking by people who don't want Tennessee to do well. There is no difference in her or Tuck's situation. However, many talk about Morgan winning 5 NCs, but Diamond bailing Tennessee as soon as she can.

It's wishful thinking IMO.

Yes Twitter and Instagram are a wellspring of indisputable fact. Many here also speculate on Tuck leaving. I wouldn't call it "wishful thinking" regarding Diamond, it's more like reasonable speculation. I wouldn't be surprised if Diamond only spends one year at Tennessee before going pro.

I agree there are many people here who don't want to see Tennessee do well. This attitude is based mainly on the failed attempts to discredit Geno and the UConn program by Pat Summitt, plus TN fan boards continuing vile disrespect. I don't sense any animosity here against the Tenn players.

 

[Wbbfan1]

Jewel is in LA along with Breanna and Tiffany Mitchell for the Wooden Award tonight. Possibly she'll make a statement tonight explaining her decision. If she wins which is possible, media will be asking her questions.

 

[Orangutan]

Now that would be sad if the ND people hold this decision against her. Very small of them if they do.

It was her choice to make and I respect that. It doesn't mean I have to like it. That's basically what it boils down to.

In terms of legacy, she left, very possibly, another final four, All-American team, and ACC POY on the table. So that does have a huge effect on things when you are evaluating her against someone like Diggins. Another All-America season and she was in the discussion for greatest-ever ND player. Another All-America season with a championship and she would have been #1 without a doubt.

Now, she's probably in the 2nd tier with McBride, Achonwa, Peters, Novosel, et al.

 

[j66kicker]

From the article you cite above: "Knowing what is known now, it’s interesting to look back on Loyd’s recent games to see if the gravity of her impending decision impacted her performance. A 45 percent shooter for the season, Loyd was never better than 38 percent in her last five NCAA Tournament games. She was a dismal 3 of 15 against DePaul, 5 of 18 against Baylor and 4 of 18 against Connecticut."

Wonder if her less than stellar performance and considerable grumbling from ND fans pushed her over the edge in this decision making? I do wish she had made a statement in making the announcement; I think an athlete owes the fans that when they leave early.

To me it sorta sounded like laying the foundation for an excuse for losing the NC game to UCONN again ("We were without the "full" capacity of Loyd.")

 

[CocoHusky]

It was her choice to make and I respect that. It doesn't mean I have to like it. That's basically what it boils down to.

In terms of legacy, she left, very possibly, another final four, All-American team, and ACC POY on the table. So that does have a huge effect on things when you are evaluating her against someone like Diggins. Another All-America season and she was in the discussion for greatest-ever ND player. Another All-America season with a championship and she would have been #1 without a doubt.

Now, she's probably in the 2nd tier with McBride, Achonwa, Peters, Novosel, et al.

Ruth Riley???

 

[HGN]

Neither Mojeff nor Stewie go pro this year. Jefferson just turned 21 in March and Stewart won't be 21 until August.

Good for UConn and good for the B-Y.

 

[Orangutan]

Ruth Riley???

Either she or Diggins is the best ever ND player. They're the first tier.

 

[CocoHusky]

Either she or Diggins is the best ever ND player. They're the first tier.

IMO
Ruth=#1 because she got ND a ring.
Skylar & Jewell Co -# 2 both lead teams into two championship games.
Niele Ivey # 3 because she was part of the succes of # 1 as a player and development of Co-#2
I feel for you, give it some time for the sting of Jewell's announcement to wear off. Jewell definitely greater than Novosel!

 

[Orangutan]

IMO
Ruth=#1 because she got ND a ring.
Skylar & Jewell Co -# 2 both lead teams into two championship games.
Niele Ivey # 3 because she was part of the succes of # 1 as a player and development of Co-#2
I feel for you, give it some time for the sting of Jewell's announcement to wear off. Jewell definitely greater than Novosel!

Oh yeah, definitely. Realistically, the second tier is probably just Ivey, McBride, and Loyd. And the other stars of note come somewhere after that.

I started watching ND closely in Diggins's last year. Jewell Loyd is better than Diggins and McBride in my opinion. But Diggins body of work is better as a result of the extra year.