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Chief, I totally understand the value his religious upbringing has in his life and the importance of expressing it.

Not everybody can adjust to being silenced over this. But I know people who have made the adjustment. I guess I find it difficult believing KO can't handle that adjustment. If he did, he should have moved on.
My friend, I am still failing at expressing this clearly. When you create these high public standards - it becomes more difficult to go through a divorce where all your failings compared to your personal expectations of yourself collide.
 
Niels defended the 3, 4, and 5 at various times, all capably. He rebounded effectively. He was a very flexible defensive player. On offense, he was a spot-up shooter, but that inflexibility was not a problem when you had Bazz and Boat in the backcourt. I don't see that Niels was a rigid player, certainly not rigid like Vance Jackson who couldn't defend anything and demanded to play the 3 and get shots.

I think KO just means that he adjusted his offense and defense to the capabilities of the players he had, e.g. slowing the game down to compensate for lack of rebounding by Amida and Deandre or lack of footspeed by Niels. There's no one system, in other words, there is a flexible repertoire of approaches and the best approach for his group of players is what KO will choose. He is rebelling against having a single "system" that everyone has to fit into.
Exactly. The evidence is there he's made adjustments given the personnel he's had and the capabilities of his players.

I saw in one of the threads someone insisted KO couldn't get his players to get an inbound pass successfully. That game certainly existed and it was a costly error, but it didn't happen after that possession. Same with the arguments people made earlier that KO wasn't successful drawing up plays after time outs until someone pulled up a statistic showing KO to be one of the most successful coaches after a time out.
 
Niels defended the 3, 4, and 5 at various times, all capably. He rebounded effectively. He was a very flexible defensive player. On offense, he was a spot-up shooter, but that inflexibility was not a problem when you had Bazz and Boat in the backcourt. I don't see that Niels was a rigid player, certainly not rigid like Vance Jackson who couldn't defend anything and demanded to play the 3 and get shots.

I think KO just means that he adjusted his offense and defense to the capabilities of the players he had, e.g. slowing the game down to compensate for lack of rebounding by Amida and Deandre or lack of footspeed by Niels. There's no one system, in other words, there is a flexible repertoire of approaches and the best approach for his group of players is what KO will choose. He is rebelling against having a single "system" that everyone has to fit into.

Let's be frank, lots of people say Niel's was slow because he was white. But, he actually was one of the faster guys on the team but not one of the quickest.
 
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My friend, I am still failing at expressing this clearly. When you create these high public standards - it becomes more difficult to go through a divorce where all your failings compared to your personal expectations of yourself collide.
OK! This makes sense. Divorces are rarely easy. But if someone puts pressure on themselves to be a public model, when that image is perceived to be destroyed, the impacts are greater for those who have put more pressure on themselves to maintain that image.

It's the bigger you are the harder the fall concept. Except in this situation it's about the importance of living up to a standard as opposed to power or money. My wife who's extremely intuitive has felt that from the get go, KO was blindsided by the divorce and is struggling to get past it. It's why I have been concerned more about KO and how he's handling people than all the rest of the things people are pointing out in these threads.
 
I'm unsure if that is a compliment or an insult. But the short answer is no!
Just a joke. Jeff actually came to the forum using his own name. I hit him hard on his write ups over certain things and he took the time to respond to me. Didn't change my opinion about his conclusions, but it was a class act to take the time and reply to me.
 
Here's the key to KO's career:

Last month, Rodney Purvis tweeted out about "fake love." So did Jackson. It stemmed from a lyric by Drake, and while it was unclear if it was directed at Ollie, the term took on a life of its own among some fans and some around the program. ... I'm not buying for a minute that Ollie is a phony. Nevertheless, Ollie has to close out any notion of this with his players.

If KO truly loves his players and they are conscious of it, then no matter how tough and demanding a coach he is, they will love him back and everything will work. If they think he doesn't love them, then a demanding coach becomes tiresome, the players will get demoralized and look elsewhere. Ollie needs to make sure his actions live out his beliefs.

I think we have a great coach here, I really do. I'm looking forward to KO proving all the doubters here wrong.
I think we have a great coach as well. I think his motivation for his leadership is very high as well. When you say "If they think he doesn't love them, then a demanding coach becomes tiresome, the players will get demoralized and look elsewhere. Ollie needs to make sure his actions live out his beliefs" it presupposes that his players are "10 toes in as well". I suspect that the failure lies, for the most part, in the players who left not living up to their end of the bargain. I think Calhoun also got across his "love" message as a "tough love message" from the get go. I recall sometime ago reading about a player who comforted a teammate after an epic rant by JC as "don't take it personally, he does that because he just really wants you to do well". In the military, the leaders will tell you take everything they say about training as extremely important because your life and the life of your brothers depends on it. And they take their responsibility very seriously. They've been there and seen it in action. They will say that "I can use positive motivation or negative motivation but in the end I am going to get my way". You have to buy into that in your head in order to put your heart into it. It is not about "feelings." A mother gets up in the middle of the night to feed a hungry baby even though she doesn't "feel" like it. Running away from a demanding situation is not going to make someone in a better position necessarily. To each his own. Choices have consequences.
I think we are back on track and I think over the years KO has more than proved his resiliency. I am looking forward to the coming years because I think there is a unity in vision among the AD, Coach and assistants.
 
How can someone who lives on this board and seems to be involved in every thread and mentioned by every other poster have as low a like to post ratio as Chief?
Quite frankly, many things I say are not popular and get shot down by conventional wisdom at the time - but then they happened. .. but people don't go back and like my old posts predicting what will happen. But, seriously it's never been a metric I care about. I like the exchange of ideas, opinions and information. It may be a surprise to the casual fan but Chief learns a lot reading this forum.
 
"Everybody gets caught up in the system, the system, the system,'" Ollie said, pointing to Niels Giffey as a player he adjusted to. "I'm not this guy who is just in this rigid system."

I read it differently. Neils was a rigid player that KO adjusted to dealing with.
You read it that way because you wanted to read it that way, the reference to Giffey was already addressed in the Amore article.
 
Just a joke. Jeff actually came to the forum using his own name. I hit him hard on his write ups over certain things and he took the time to respond to me. Didn't change my opinion about his conclusions, but it was a class act to take the time and reply to me.
Gotta respect that.
 
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OK! This makes sense. Divorces are rarely easy. But if someone puts pressure on themselves to be a public model, when that image is perceived to be destroyed, the impacts are greater for those who have put more pressure on themselves to maintain that image.

It's the bigger you are the harder the fall concept. Except in this situation it's about the importance of living up to a standard as opposed to power or money. My wife who's extremely intuitive has felt that from the get go, KO was blindsided by the divorce and is struggling to get past it. It's why I have been concerned more about KO and how he's handling people than all the rest of the things people are pointing out in these threads.
Your wife is smarter than you or I. What couple survives 13 years of the NBA then fails? It is amazing.
Again I don't think KO consciously created this image - it just happened with him openly sharing his faith.
 
So, if I am following, Ollie was off to a great start then Chief told him to turn down his religiosity. This set off changes where Ollie was hiding his true self, leading to the downfall of the UConn dynasty.

Thanks Chief.
 
Your wife is smarter than you or I. What couple survives 13 years of the NBA then fails? It is amazing.
Again I don't think KO consciously created this image - it just happened with him openly sharing his faith.
Probably the decision to bring KO's mom to CT, whose health was failing, had a lot of impact. No matter what the cause, I subscribe to the position that the impact had to be tough for KO. And is it a coincidence that he has a deja vu this postseason - that is getting blind sided by players he thought would stay leaving?
 
Besides Chief, there have been other people who have pointed this out on here. If it's true then I'd love to know why.
Complicated and besides you can only have one boss. Calhoun is going to be loyal to his ex players - that's why they all love him. Benedict's guidance is going to be sometimes in conflict with that. I can tell you it's often a no win for KO - while JC is loyal to Miller - my guess is the departure from man to man drive him crazy. That's a culture thing beyond X's and O's - so this season we broke the culture. Injuries etc as JC said in a recent quite are no excuse. It would have been better for Enoch to play through that.
 
Complicated and besides you can only have one boss. Calhoun is going to be loyal to his ex players - that's why they all love him. Benedict's guidance is going to be sometimes in conflict with that. I can tell you it's often a no win for KO - while JC is loyal to Miller - my guess is the departure from man to man drive him crazy. That's a culture thing beyond X's and O's - so this season we broke the culture. Injuries etc as JC said in a recent quite are no excuse. It would have been better for Enoch to play through that.
JC and any UConn basketball fan doesn't care if we play man to man, zone, or a junk defense. As long as we implement it well and we win.
 
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Even on message boards referring to ones self in the third person is pretty funny, in a self absorbed kind of way.
It was a conscious decision on his part. He was the leader of the anti Dyson faction in this forum and had a huge following of supporters. He continued it for years following Dyson's departure, initially took heat from BigErn primarily but as time went on a lot of posters hit him for his stance.

When that happened he changed his style of posting including speaking in this third person manner. It was a smart way of deflecting the resentment he generated over Dyson. It made the Chief statements and BigErn comebacks some of the funniest things in this forum. Like it or not this persona is preferable to the past. Still think he needs to tone down opinion as expressed as fact. But his style doesn't bother me in the least.
 
So, if I am following, Ollie was off to a great start then Chief told him to turn down his religiosity. This set off changes where Ollie was hiding his true self, leading to the downfall of the UConn dynasty.

Thanks Chief.

That's not what I said. Just that it makes divorce harder when you struggle with your personnel failings against that standard and the result is often withdrawing from some long term relationships.
 
What couple survives 13 years of the NBA then fails? It is amazing.

She may have expected that after the NBA travel ended he'd be home with her and found that didn't happen with college recruiting. She had a reduced financial incentive to stay every year as their wealth rose relative to his earnings. It was a selfish and loveless move no doubt, but it's not too surprising that a selfish person might prefer to be rich and free to play around to being rich at home alone.
 
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That's not what I said. Just that it makes divorce harder when you struggle with your personnel failings against that standard and the result is often withdrawing from some long term relationships.
He's referring to this statement you made:

I told KO a few years ago in a joking way - to tone down all this open public religious stuff - cuz people will hold you to that standard. I always thought that assistant football coach from ND got screwed at UConn in his first few months by making a comment about Jesus - that was probably fine in his former job but wasn't tolerated here for better or worse, while KO was held to a different standard. He did not disagree. And I do think KO has pulled back some - but while he may feel it's something he aspires to each day and uses it as a goal - many in the public hold him to that standard because of the image he built. I think that all makes it harder to let other people in.
 
That's not what I said. Just that it makes divorce harder when you struggle with your personnel failings against that standard and the result is often withdrawing from some long term relationships.
TL;DR Ollie holds himself to high expectations both publicly and privately so the divorce embarrassed him to himself and his friends causing him to just drift away from people? Am I getting that right?
 
this is like a soap opera
The soap opera began with the op emphasizing something and the next two or three posts conjecturing about it.

There are very few threads that are not soap operas imo. But this soap opera is salient to everything. Some people have expressed overtly or cryptically that the exodus was the result of KO's personality. I don't buy into this but since gossip is allowed to go on in this forum, I'm trying to push the point to determine how much of this is factual or not.
 
Chief had reported the Calhoun relationship non-communication some time ago and several other criticisms were valid including the Coach in the lockerroom vs the presser.
Having said that, its not very becoming the focus of Glen Miller and his buddies. At this point, he should be focus on finding a job rather than backstabbing his former boss, which makes the former more difficult because what coach wants to hire a back stabbing assistant?
Glen failed as a Bigs coach - don't blame KO on that. The gimmick zones poor execution - that's on Glen as well. He also had some well documented recruiting failures. If anything KO gave Miller too much recruiting autonomy and he wasn't up to the task.

True, though KO needs to break out of his funk.

Chiefs deep insight into Ollie's mind sight reminds me of someone just can't put my finger on who....

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It was a conscious decision on his part. He was the leader of the anti Dyson faction in this forum and had a huge following of supporters. He continued it for years following Dyson's departure, initially took heat from BigErn primarily but as time went on a lot of posters hit him for his stance.

When that happened he changed his style of posting including speaking in this third person manner. It was a smart way of deflecting the resentment he generated over Dyson. It made the Chief statements and BigErn comebacks some of the funniest things in this forum. Like it or not this persona is preferable to the past. Still think he needs to tone down opinion as expressed as fact. But his style doesn't bother me in the least.

You know you spend too much time on these forums when you can recite an oral history of a message board feud.
 
It was a conscious decision on his part. He was the leader of the anti Dyson faction in this forum and had a huge following of supporters. He continued it for years following Dyson's departure, initially took heat from BigErn primarily but as time went on a lot of posters hit him for his stance.

When that happened he changed his style of posting including speaking in this third person manner. It was a smart way of deflecting the resentment he generated over Dyson. It made the Chief statements and BigErn comebacks some of the funniest things in this forum. Like it or not this persona is preferable to the past. Still think he needs to tone down opinion as expressed as fact. But his style doesn't bother me in the least.

This is the strangest thing I have read here in a very long time.
 
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