Jayden Ross Returning!!!

[SoCalCanine]

611 is borderline freescooter level crazy

Yeah, but at least 611 is brave enough to be crazy here ALL the time. Scooter only shows up on rainy days to be crazy. Hmm, have they ever been seen in the same place at the same time?

 

[Huskyforlife]

Why can’t everyone just block 611 like I did years ago ?

I try not to block anyone cause it ruins the flow of threads. But in the case of 611, he’s wrong about this Ross thing, but this fanbase gets way too offended when someone dares share a differing take from the established consensus, not just on the boneyard. I just wish people could keep threads on topic, this is where we should be debating Ross.

 

[3rdbass]

611 is borderline freescooter level crazy

Freescooter is not posting a lot on here like 611. I wouldn’t put 611 in Freescooter region as he still likes UConn and Hurley. Freescooter I think is a Syracuse fan pretending to like UConn. LOL! That is why I went with Nelson who has some off the wall takes.

 

[navery12]

Maybe, there’s just not a clear path for him if Mullins or Stew is backing up the wings, and we bring in a backup pg. Then you consider Hurley asked Ross to come back and fill out the rotation it would seem. Not sure where his minutes come from unless he breaks out in practice and surpasses some locked in rotation guys.

I think there's a path to 10 minutes between the 1 and 2 spots for him even with a backup PG coming in, assuming he's ready. And there's no reason to think he won't be even if he's a little skinny

 

[3rdbass]

I think the main thing we disagree on is Ross.

Most on this board like my basketball opinion when I’m not giving my honest thoughts about the program lol

I think Ross can still get time for us but I wonder if it is at the 4 and not the 3 with our current lineup setup. Either way he ia backup right now.

 

[3rdbass]

I think there's a path to 10 minutes between the 1 and 2 spots for him even with a backup PG coming in, assuming he's ready. And there's no reason to think he won't be even if he's a little skinny

Nah will have Mullins who needs minutes at the 2 and I’m sure we will get a decent backup PG who will also need minutes Why do you think Ross can even play the 1? Because he played alright in 1 game but didn’t do anything really good in the away Marquette game. He also has a very inconsistent outside shot.

 

[navery12]

Nah will have Mullins who needs minutes at the 2 and I’m sure we will get a decent backup PG who will also need minutes Why do you think Ross can even play the 1? Because he played alright in 1 game but didn’t do anything really good in the away Marquette game. He also has a very inconsistent outside shot.

The conversation is about Darius Adams

 

[housekeys]

Very happy for him and I think UConn coaching staff is happy too. That's all that matters. I will now sheepishly act as if I know basketball.

IMHO, I think he needs to work on his handle and situational awareness. No more deer in the headlight moments. Put the ball on the floor with confidence and get to the spot you want to go.

His shot looked decent but the results were poor. Still, he did not take nearly enough to draw a solid conclusion. His defense will only improve. He has the length and athleticism.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Does if not perfectly not mean pretty much did exactly what he was suppose to do? On a play so many Ross detractors tried to use as a bad play.

It’s one thing to think something, it’s another to when being shown that wasn’t the case to still double down on something. (And that goes for way beyond you, unfortunately you were the only person who had the gumption (good way) to actually find an example).

Not going to relitigate the whole thing. I still think it was a bad play (even you felt it was a “weird rotation” in that discussion) and certainly not his only bad defensive play. I’ve also been very consistent in my view that I think he could turn into a very good defender due to his tools and some flashes he’s shown. I’m hoping he can take that step and be at least a defensive stopper off the bench because our bench for next year is currently missing that. If you end up right, all the better for the team next year.

 

[3rdbass]

The conversation is about Darius Adams

Ok. I'm not high on Darius making a contribution this year from videos I have seen and what I read but maybe he is better than we think. I personally don’t see much time for him unless Hurley sees him as backup PG. He won’t get any meaningful playing time at the 2 with Ball and Mullins on this roster.

 

[3rdbass]

If this summer goes right roster wise, get your hopes up buddy.

Ross is next in line in that Jackson, Castle shutdown defender and secondary playmaker role.

Based on this past year where he was at best an average defender? Even Stewart who people said wasn’t playing good D stole his role and minutes by end of the season.

 

[ctchamps]

Freescooter is not posting a lot on here like 611. I wouldn’t put 611 in Freescooter region as he still likes UConn and Hurley. Freescooter I think is a Syracuse fan pretending to like UConn. LOL! That is why I went with Nelson who has some off the wall takes.

Freescooter is a fan of UConn bb but loves UConn football more and has hated that UConn is known as a basketball school.

He hates this forum because many of the posters don’t care about the football program. So he comes here to aggravate posters. He was intolerable during the JC years.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

lol let’s wait until the roster shakes out then. All transfers aren’t built the same. I’ll be more sure what’s what after the roster is set.

I just know neither Mullins nor Furphy are playing over him.

If he is as good as you think, Hurley would not be bringing a transfer in over him. Bringing a transfer to play ahead of him would be a sign that you were wrong….

 

[3rdbass]

That’s because Stewart provided offense. Ross was the better defender but literally wouldn’t look at the rim.

Stewart’s defense was passable and a threat to actually score. He also played a bigger position of need at the 4.

His defense was better by the end of the year than Ross for sure. He was keeping players in front of him. Something he didn’t do earlier in the year. No way was Ross better defender than Stewart at the end of the year.

 

[superjohn]

With post #122 and post #123 this has to be trolling. His posts are somehow getting even more insane.

 

[3rdbass]

Freescooter is a fan of UConn bb but loves UConn football more and has hated that UConn is known as a basketball school.

He hates this forum because many of the posters don’t care about the football program. So he comes here to aggravate posters. He was intolerable during the JC years.

He was also fine when Ollie was here too as we all knew that was the wrong hire after KO got too full of himself but then when he piled on Hurley even when winning he lost his credibility. Doesn’t he know that a strong basketball program is probably our only avenue into a better conference even if Football becomes average.

 

[ctchamps]

I truly hate posts like this. So a coach who won two championships in the last three years isn’t enough for you? You need one who also will never once make a personnel decision that is later regretted?

gtcam knows KO personally. He’s been upset with how posters attacked him in this forum. He was not alone but those few of us that agreed with him have moved on. He unfortunately hasn’t.

It must stick in his craw that Hurley has done so well following KO’s ending and that posters treat Hurley with such high regard. He has made several digs at Hurley over the years. He hasn’t had the opportunity to attack Hurley during the back to back championship seasons. This is his first chance in a while. I wish he would move on.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I think there's a path to 10 minutes between the 1 and 2 spots for him even with a backup PG coming in, assuming he's ready. And there's no reason to think he won't be even if he's a little skinny

I think the 2 is completely accounted for unless solo or Mullins is injured. I also don’t know where the minutes come from at the 1, assuming Demary is locked into 25-30 minutes? Wouldn’t his backup take whatever minutes are left?

 

[ctchamps]

He was also fine when Ollie was here too as we all knew that was the wrong hire after KO got too full of himself but then when he piled on Hurley even when winning he lost his credibility. Doesn’t he know that a strong basketball program is probably our only avenue into a better conference even if Football becomes average.

Of course he knows. He gets irrational pleasure trolling this forum. Irrational because it hardly moves the needle impacting most of us. But in his mind he believes otherwise.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Of course he knows. He gets irrational pleasure trolling this forum. Irrational because it hardly moves the needle impacting most of us. But in his mind he believes otherwise.

Irrational is using Hurley’s national championships as a justification for bashing Ollie almost a decade after Ollie left.

 

[ctchamps]

With post #122 and post #123 this has to be trolling. His posts are somehow getting even more insane.

He’s passionate, opinionated, stubborn and argumentative.

And he enjoys posters who engage with him.

I can’t decide if it’s funny or pathetic that so many people need to defend a position repeatedly. There is no tangible value obtained in continuous arguing when parties are entrenched in their opposing positions. Unless someone enjoys arguing for the sake of arguing. 611 is one of those people.

Posters refuting him with what they consider are “more” rational points of view and then getting aggravated because he is unwilling to agree should ask themselves two things. Why is it so important to get him to agree? And if he doesn’t why is it aggravating? His opinion has no impact in this universe.

 

[ctchamps]

I came here to celebrate Ross’s announcement. I’m in the camp that believes he has potential to be an impactful player. That Hurley is not blowing smoke with his assessment of Jayden.

I can’t argue with those posters who have a more skeptical opinion. The evidence is against my belief. But every once in a while I feel something about a player that makes me excited in spite of the evidence. Hopefully my spidey sense is correct about Ross.

 

[3rdbass]

Adams has to play at least 10mpg or he’s the next Nowell. There is enough PT for him and a transfer PG in the backcourt. I agree Ross has more opportunity for PT if he can split his time at stretch 4.

Silas 25 / Transfer PG 15
Ball 25 / Mullins 5 / Adams 10
Stew 15 / Mullins 10 / Furphy 10 / Ross 5
Alex 25 / Stew 10 / Ross 5
Reed 25 / Reibe 15

25: Silas / Ball / Stew / Alex / Reed
15: Transfer PG / Mullins / Reibe
10: Adams / Furphy / Ross
B: Transfer C

I really don’t see how Silas, Ball, Stew, Alex and Reed play only 25 minutes each. Maybe Reed due to foul trouble. I think most of those other guys will be in the 30-35 minute range when we get into the tough part of the schedule were some of these open minutes get squeezed. That will make it hard for Darius to see time if we find a backup portal PG.

 

[ctchamps]

Irrational is using Hurley’s national championships as a justification for bashing Ollie almost a decade after Ollie left.

Irrationally is in the eyes of the beholder. On this matter we agree.

 

[3rdbass]

This is regular season averages. Take advantage of legit depth until tourney time then cut it to 8 guys.

Yeah but that never has really happened under Hurley. I doubt it starts this year. Even in 2022-23 when we had a deep team we had 5 guys averaging 29 minutes for the season. 2023-24 we had 3 guys playing 32-33 minutes 1 27 minutes. Obviously with both teams they played more minutes against the best teams so those averages are on the lower side. So even if we have 5 guys averaging 29 minutes that eats up 20 minutes of the time you can give to the others. In the 2023-24 scenario that would be closer to 25 minutes taken away.

 

[bendm]

Yeah but that never has really happened under Hurley. I doubt it starts this year. Even in 2022-23 when we had a deep team we had 5 guys averaging 29 minutes for the season. 2023-24 we had 3 guys playing 32-33 minutes 1 27 minutes. Obviously with both teams they played more minutes against the best teams so those averages are on the lower side. So even if we have 5 guys averaging 29 minutes that eats up 20 minutes of the time you can give to the others. In the 2023-24 scenario that would be closer to 25 minutes taken away.

If youre adamant about 11 then take Furphy out of the rotation but I’m equally adamant that Adams and Ross will be in the regular season rotation or Adams will be gone as a sophomore and Ross would not have retuned. That’s a conceivable 10 man rotation compromise.

 

[Mike Honcho]

If youre adamant about 11 then take Furphy out of the rotation but I’m equally adamant that Adams and Ross will be in the regular season rotation or Adams will be gone as a sophomore and Ross would not have retuned. That’s a conceivable 10 man rotation compromise.

Much like scholarship math, this tends to sort itself out over the year. Put me in the camp that says we will not have a 10 man rotation next season.

That being said, I would like to see us pick up the pace a bit and play more transition basketball. I think we have the horses to do it but it really depends on our rebounding, outlet passing, and finishing ability, all areas we struggled in this past year. It didn't help that we couldn't reliably spell Hass either.

With 23-24, we were elite in transition even though our pace was slower than average due to our half court offense execution. This past season we barely got any easy buckets. If we do start running more often, I could see a rotation stretch to 8 or 9 guys playing decent minutes.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Bama and Auburn both went 10-11 deep. Come tourney time sure there’s a clear 8 man rotation. But Ross isn’t coming back to get his PT cut in half. Adams is in the regular season rotation or he’d be at a different school this year and certainly next year. Furphy i don’t feel as strongly about but bfield said he’s getting more than 5mpg

I knew this wasn’t true but I went to check some late season box scores just in case. Bama played 8 main rotation guys and their 9ths minutes went up or down game by game for the few games I checked. None of those box scores contained a 10th man, let alone 11th.

It’s just rare to have enough playable talent to even pull it off, despite how much I believe in all our guys. It’s also just dumb to play all conference caliber players, which we have a minimum of 4, less than 30 minutes per game, you get the most out of those dudes for understandable reasons.

Also we’re teetering into thread locking territory with your predictions, so I hope mods don’t go that route because this Ross conversation finally has a suitable home.

 

[Huskyforlife]

If youre adamant about 11 then take Furphy out of the rotation but I’m equally adamant that Adams and Ross will be in the regular season rotation or Adams will be gone as a sophomore and Ross would not have retuned. That’s a conceivable 10 man rotation compromise.

Furphy and Adams probably need a year to get their bodies right anyway. I’d imagine these conversations took place before their commitments, but they’ll be given the same chance everyone gets to play their way ahead of the incumbents and presumed rotation staples if they’re ready. 9 is the maximum number most top seeds will play in non blowouts, so some guys will be left out.

But also, this is just college basketball now. You commit to a school, if the school doesn’t play you enough to your liking, you can choose to leave at the end of the year. We thought Ross was leaving because he didn’t play much for 2 years, sometimes guys stick around, so I wouldn’t write off whomever doesn’t crack the rotation as a Husky. But some kids will go the way of Nowell and Abraham, they also had pedigree and didn’t play, it’s hard to predict.

And fwiw from the quotes Adams gives, he feels like a culture guy who will buy into the process imo, even if that means barely missing the rotation his freshman year. I won’t be shocked if he’s back in a Solo Ball type fashion his Sophomore year.

 

[mauconnfan]

Does if not perfectly not mean pretty much did exactly what he was suppose to do? On a play so many Ross detractors tried to use as a bad play.

It’s one thing to think something, it’s another to when being shown that wasn’t the case to still double down on something. (And that goes for way beyond you, unfortunately you were the only person who had the gumption (good way) to actually try to find an example).

Hate to say his supposed great defense was much closer to the opposite unless you’re seeing what you want. He was beaten off the dribble as much as anyone that I know for sure. Is there potential, heck yeah he has the physical tools but he wasn’t close to the guy we heard about in practice during his short stints.