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OT: Jay Young Out At Fairfield

Fishy said:
It’s not a good job.

They haven’t won a conference title in like 30 years and even Ed Cooley’s magical run that got him to Providence ended in the second round of the NIT. To his credit, he’s the only one since the flood to get out of Fairfield with a winning record.

Partial credit to Tim O’Toole who at least tried to cheat his way to success there.
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Uconn guy now, but back in the day went to Fairfield.
 
I've lived in Fairfield since '84. It's not an easy job. There are schools in the conference who have more money, a bigger fanbase and less ethics. That having been said, Fairfield was far more competitive before moving to Harbor Yard, where they played in a glorified high school gym but had a fan base and people showed up. It must have been awful trying to recruit kids to play in an empty Harbor Yard. Hopefully they can become more competitive with the new on campus facility.
 
businesslawyer said:
I've lived in Fairfield since '84. It's not an easy job. There are schools in the conference who have more money, a bigger fanbase and less ethics. That having been said, Fairfield was far more competitive before moving to Harbor Yard, where they played in a glorified high school gym but had a fan base and people showed up. It must have been awful trying to recruit kids to play in an empty Harbor Yard. Hopefully they can become more competitive with the new on campus facility.
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Fairfield is a strange job. The school has academic requirements that the Iona’s don’t have. But they have money don’t let them kid you, and attendance increased in droves last year. I know people down at my marina who aren’t even alums shelling out thousands for seats.

The new arena is nice, but the AD still hasn’t proved he is serious about basketball. The arena came about because Mahaney dumped cash for it. They’ll make a run at Murray but hire an idiot.
 
businesslawyer said:
I've lived in Fairfield since '84. It's not an easy job. There are schools in the conference who have more money, a bigger fanbase and less ethics. That having been said, Fairfield was far more competitive before moving to Harbor Yard, where they played in a glorified high school gym but had a fan base and people showed up. It must have been awful trying to recruit kids to play in an empty Harbor Yard. Hopefully they can become more competitive with the new on campus facility.
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Alumni Hall was a real fun place to catch games…I guess I like glorified high school gyms :)
 
Palatine said:
Speaking of which. Why didn't Iona make a run at Young?
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Because young is a truly dreadful coach. I am a fairfield alumni and the basketball program is a dumpster fire. Luke murray is. Fairfield alum but his first job as head coach will be much better. I think kinani would be a great fit. Deserves better but his past has prevented better opportunities. Cooley was very good At Fairfield but failed to capitalize with ncaa bid. Iona is always formidable obstacle for ncaa bid. Siena also tough and usually hosts maac tournament. I doubt kimani or luke have interest
 
Fan1978 said:
Because young is a truly dreadful coach. I am a fairfield alumni and the basketball program is a dumpster fire. Luke murray is. Fairfield alum but his first job as head coach will be much better. I think kinani would be a great fit. Deserves better but his past has prevented better opportunities. Cooley was very good At Fairfield but failed to capitalize with ncaa bid. Iona is always formidable obstacle for ncaa bid. Siena also tough and usually hosts maac tournament. I doubt kimani or luke have interest
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Even when Cooley was there the was no hype around the program. He hit gold with Derek Needham, then flopped in the MAAC when Sanders followed him from BC. That team was loaded, total failure. I boycotted the program after Cooley refused to shake my hand when I was a freshman because I was wearing a UConn shirt.

So throughout my years of education at both Fairfield & UConn I never attended one Fairfield game. I was driving up to Storrs and Hartford multiple times a week. That program down there could rot in hell as long as the AD is employed.
 
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CTBasketball said:
Even when Cooley was there the was no hype around the program. He hit gold with Derek Needham, then flopped in the MAAC when Sanders followed him from BC. That team was loaded, total failure. I boycotted the program after Cooley refused to shake my hand when I was a freshman because I was wearing a UConn shirt.

So throughout my years of education at both Fairfield & UConn I never attended one Fairfield game. I was driving up to Storrs and Hartford multiple times a week. That program down there could rot in hell as long as the AD is employed.
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Cooley had a hard-o for UConn even during his Fairfield days?
 
John said:
Cooley had a hard-o for UConn even during his Fairfield days?
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He’s Providence born, then studied under Al Skinner at BC. He’s bread to hate UConn.

Funny part is he begged Rakim Sanders to come to Fairfield, who was a double digit scorer for 3 years at BC. Rakim sat out a year due to transfer rules, then Cooley dipped when Providence came knocking. Leaving Rakim with Sydney Johnson and a CIT finish in 2012 for his RS senior season.

Guy burns a lot of bridges.
 
CTBasketball said:
He’s Providence born, then studied under Al Skinner at BC. He’s bread to hate UConn.

Funny part is he begged Rakim Sanders to come to Fairfield, who was a double digit scorer for 3 years at BC. Rakim sat out a year due to transfer rules, then Cooley dipped when Providence came knocking. Leaving Rakim with Sydney Johnson and a CIT finish in 2012 for his RS senior season.

Guy burns a lot of bridges.
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Seriously? We’re going to single the guy out for bailing on a mid-major program after he recruited players to give something else up to play for him? You don’t think there are kids that went to Wagner or Rhodey specifically to play for Hurley?
 
businesslawyer said:
Seriously? We’re going to single the guy out for bailing on a mid-major program after he recruited players to give something else up to play for him? You don’t think there are kids that went to Wagner or Rhodey specifically to play for Hurley?
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I agree with you on this one. Cooley had every right to leave Fairfield, just like Hurley after his second season at Wagner. I'm sure plenty of players were annoyed at him for that, but coaching is a career. You make career moves regardless of whose feelings get hurt along the way. All's fair in love and coaching.

This is all assuming Cooley (or anyone) didn't make promises to players about sticking around. If you're lying about your intentions, then you deserve to be roasted.
 
businesslawyer said:
Seriously? We’re going to single the guy out for bailing on a mid-major program after he recruited players to give something else up to play for him? You don’t think there are kids that went to Wagner or Rhodey specifically to play for Hurley?
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Yes he’s got a track record.
 
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Fan1978 said:
Fairfield is a horrible job, he did a great job and had every right to move on. He left the program in great shape and Sydney johnson ran the program into the ground
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Johnson did run it into the ground, but I’m not sure if it’s a horrible job.
 
CTBasketball said:
Fairfield is a strange job. The school has academic requirements that the Iona’s don’t have. But they have money don’t let them kid you, and attendance increased in droves last year. I know people down at my marina who aren’t even alums shelling out thousands for seats.

The new arena is nice, but the AD still hasn’t proved he is serious about basketball. The arena came about because Mahaney dumped cash for it. They’ll make a run at Murray but hire an idiot.
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They can recruit IF the new coach runs more of an up tempo offensive friendly system. Running the Princeton offense and trying to win games 55-54 recruits kids as effectively for them as playing defense, running the ball, and trying to win 10-7 has for UConn football.
 
CTBasketball said:
Johnson did run it into the ground, but I’m not sure if it’s a horrible job.
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It is, leadership of school sucks. I graduated is 88. They made the tournament twice while i was there and only once in last 35 years. Cooley era was about the only time they actually had a good team
 
Can't believe their last MAAC title and NCAA bid were under Cormier, crazy (other than Cooley's regular season MAAC title).
 
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Hey Adrien! said:
And it doesn’t look good…



With the booster money, wonder if Young/Murray would bite if the school reached out to either.
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All our fish are too big. They’re going to bigger programs and I would bet they stay until the right out of conference job reaches out. Maybe aside from nova.
 
TheHorde said:
It does but I could also see a guy like Kimani end up being the next hot coach at Fairfield like Ed Cooley was and parlay that into running his own high level program.
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...or He could end up being the next Tom Moore! Lol

Not a shot at Tommy, but select your 1st job wisely. He lasted a decade at QU, but maybe Kimani wants more than that.

Does Kimani have kids going to school in CT? That might be more than enough reason to stick around a while.
 
OceanDoggie said:
...or He could end up being the next Tom Moore! Lol

Not a shot at Tommy, but select your 1st job wisely. He lasted a decade at QU, but maybe Kimani wants more than that.

Does Kimani have kids going to school in CT? That might be more than enough reason to stick around a while.
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Maybe for that level for Luke. But Kimani will need a good offer before considering it. He’s a well paid assistant and likes where he’s at. Lots of added nonsense when you move over a seat too, he knows that. Can’t go for just any job.
 
OceanDoggie said:
...or He could end up being the next Tom Moore! Lol

Not a shot at Tommy, but select your 1st job wisely. He lasted a decade at QU, but maybe Kimani wants more than that.

Does Kimani have kids going to school in CT? That might be more than enough reason to stick around a while.
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Fairfield’s program is looking strong these days isn’t it?
 
TheHorde said:
Fairfield’s program is looking strong these days isn’t it?
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Is it? They are having a very good year on the court. But there’s a huge difference between a good basketball team and a program looking strong. Programs don’t become strong merely because they have a good year on the court.
 
businesslawyer said:
Is it? They are having a very good year on the court. But there’s a huge difference between a good basketball team and a program looking strong. Programs don’t become strong merely because they have a good year on the court.
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Yes I’d say it is. They have found their coach, have a new facility that is regularly full, play an exciting and high scoring style of play, and are near the top of the conference. I’d say things are looking bright.
 
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aburks41 said:
I'm genuinely asking this, but does he actually want to be a HC? I mean, making close to $1M/yr at a blue blood as an AHC seems like a dream gig to me...Life at a mid-major for marginally more money and infinitely less job security doesn't seem like a great trade off to me.
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Do you want a promotion to be the boss and more money? Kimani is a competitive person, of course he wants his own program.
 
auror said:
Fairfield hired their interim coach Chris Casey, so no UConn asst's headed there.

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Chris Casey has fit perfectly with Fairfield.

First the summer trip issue and then multiple injuries, Casey has proven that he's a flexible leader, especially in the variety of ways they can win.

Honestly, I thought Fairfield was a bottom-barrel team, but Fairfield is now my pick to win the MAAC tournament.
 
JohnFSilver said:
great for Casey!

This is crazy, when I covered the 2002 ccsu team, that went 27-5 and 19-1 NEC here were Howie’s assistants:

Chris Casey
Patrick Sellers
Anthony Latina

Of course, Casey had taken over for Pikiell that year.

That was a great staff back then.
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Could Latina be on the hot seat at Sacred Heart? They were picked to win the conference this year and underwhelmed. They finished third and got bounced in the first round of the NEC Tournament. In the 11 years he's been head coach they've never won the regular season and have never made it to the finals of the conference tournament. Lifetime he's 141-193 at SHU. New conference next year (MAAC). Major renovation to their home court next. Could a new coach be in the mix?
 
UCMB88 said:
Could Latina be on the hot seat at Sacred Heart? They were picked to win the conference this year and underwhelmed. They finished third and got bounced in the first round of the NEC Tournament. In the 11 years he's been head coach they've never won the regular season and have never made it to the finals of the conference tournament. Lifetime he's 141-193 at SHU. New conference next year (MAAC). Major renovation to their home court next. Could a new coach be in the mix?
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I hope not. Anthony is a great guy person and good coach. It’s hard to win at that level. They lost some players to NIL and even still were best teams in the conference.

MAAC is good for them. I am hoping ccsu can also move up for NEC. They need investment in a hoops building though.m
 
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