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James Breeding

Does the refs get graded in the last game
Maybe someone here could go over the tape and check for mistakes both ways
 
TheHorde said:
There are multiple reasons why we should try to move to a P4 conference. This is one. Our playing style isn’t suited not a match for the way Big East games are officiated. We need to get more revenue. But we have a major Breeding problem. Clearly there is vindictiveness there and an axe to grind. The bigger question is why was this crew chosen and allowed to officiate this game? I remember when games typically were called by neutral conference officials. Something seems to be at play here.
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It seems like it was intentional to inhibit UConn.
 
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BGesus4 said:
Stop trying to make a diamond with your butthole. The point on Vegas is an objective fact.
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You implied that a referee committed a bunch of federal felonies. Forgive me if I don’t think accusing someone of crimes without evidence because you hate them is tolerable speech. Just old fashioned I guess.
 
The game appeared to be officiated on "vibes" rather than what was actually happening. Plenty of bad and missed calls for both teams. In a nutshell, the main criticism that absolutely affected the outcome was this:

Cadeau was allowed to play his game, hands-on with playground gery that would get him punched in the face on said playground and Demery wasn't allowed to play his game.

Allowing that early three point foul at half court to pass the laugh test was pathetic. Demery's last foul was also laughable given how Cadeau was allowed to rake at people for 94 feet.

That was the difference.

None of this considers the blatant missed charge against Ball the helped send him to the bench, the microscope examination of the hook and hold against AK or the 3on 1 maulings under our basket that went uncalled.

Doesn't consider the general foul trouble or FT disparity, that was sort of expected. It was the calls/non-calls that had an outsized effect on the first half and comeback attempt in the 2nd half.

It was a poorly officiated game regardless of which side you were on. The last game deserves better.
 
Scrappy3 said:
Does the refs get graded in the last game
Maybe someone here could go over the tape and check for mistakes both ways
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Cadeau should have picked up his second foul at the 12 minute mark when he hacked Tarris and Breeding called OOB off Tarris and no foul. He didn't go out with his second foul however until the 5 minute mark. He had three more in the second half which would have fouled him out. Much different game
 
Mr. French said:
Acting like Cadeau was shooting in the first minute of the game on a rip through from 40 feet is egregious. Calling the foul is whatever but giving him 3 FTs was a joke.
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Cadeau "cheated" in so many possessions on both sides of the ball that I could never root for the kid, but he was trying his best to win so good on him. What i could never accept is the enablement by the Referees. There is no way every jersey grab by him on our cuts went unnoticed, nor the defensive slaps at the ball which seemingly always made wrist contact eith the ballhandler.
 
OceanDoggie said:
Cadeau "cheated" in so many possessions on both sides of the ball that I could never root for the kid, but he was trying his best to win so good on him. What i could never accept is the enablement by the Referees. There is no way every jersey grab by him on our cuts went unnoticed, nor the defensive slaps at the ball which seemingly always made wrist contact eith the ballhandler.
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Of all the BS, the rake across the arm on Tarris tells me the refs decided they didn't care. Reed loses the ball, Cadeau's hand doesn't come near the ball, right across the arm, clear view and they don't call it.

Part of Danny's being so content with the loss is because he knew he was never going to beat both Breeding and UM, but they played hard enough to almost pull it off.
 
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Fairfield_1st said:
Sounds like Staley was working the refs pretty hard and it worked for her. Maybe it comes back to bite her in the rear, but for one day it worked.
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Back to the power conference theory. They want the power conferences to win. This year the men have fouled quite a bit, but the women did not, until the final four. Women 22-6 foul shot disparity and men 28-16. Tough to overcome.
 
Drfla said:
Back to the power conference theory. They want the power conferences to win. This year the men have fouled quite a bit, but the women did not, until the final four. Women 22-6 foul shot disparity and men 28-16. Tough to overcome.
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I think this is accurate. They've kind of maxed out on UConn's marketing value (and maybe South Carolina as well in women's hoops). Having Michigan and UCLA bring home titles is a real coup for growing fan interest. Those are huge brands with a lot of high-profile basketball history, along with football crossover and big, national fan bases. This is an entertainment product, after all. I think they're popping champagne over these outcomes.
 
ninety-nine said:
I think this is accurate. They've kind of maxed out on UConn's marketing value (and maybe South Carolina as well in women's hoops). Having Michigan and UCLA bring home titles is a real coup for growing fan interest. Those are huge brands with a lot of high-profile basketball history, along with football crossover and big, national fan bases. This is an entertainment product, after all. I think they're popping champagne over these outcomes.
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Ding ding.

Nothing smelled right about how that game last night was officiated. I rarely call out refs. When the egregiously bad calls are 8-9 to zero, it smells like poo. When the other team can push guys to the ground in the back multiple times with no whistle, it smells like poo. When the defensive player gets called on an illegal screen, it smells like poo.
 
businesslawyer said:
You implied that a referee committed a bunch of federal felonies. Forgive me if I don’t think accusing someone of crimes without evidence because you hate them is tolerable speech. Just old fashioned I guess.
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I would doubt a ref would be so stupid in a spotlight game, but I wouldn’t put it past Breeding to be a vindictive . What’s fascinating is how blatant the bias can be but we are programmed to dismiss it. This leads to the real vulnerability with big money at stake for ref influenced outcomes. pS - Breeding needs to go
 
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Edward Sargent said:
Cadeau should have picked up his second foul at the 12 minute mark when he hacked Tarris and Breeding called OOB off Tarris and no foul. He didn't go out with his second foul however until the 5 minute mark. He had three more in the second half which would have fouled him out. Much different game
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businesslawyer said:
You implied that a referee committed a bunch of federal felonies. Forgive me if I don’t think accusing someone of crimes without evidence because you hate them is tolerable speech. Just old fashioned I guess.
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There have been many fixed games in the last few years as legal gambling has become pervasive. The only way anyone gets caught is if they are stupid enough to fix a game where there is not a lot of action, and the unusual betting patterns get flagged. It is naive to think that dozens of games have not been fixed without being detected.

College refs are not well paid, and someone can move millions through a National Championship game book and no one would notice. We are well past anyone getting the benefit of the doubt when there is a pattern of unusual calls or play for that matter..
 
buddy said:
I thought the spread was 6.5 so UConn won.
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James Breeding sucks at his job. He makes himself the story, he influences outcomes. I think he's an incompetent buffoon and a jackass. I hope this game exposed him for what he is.

And I agree with you, this was not about Vegas, this was about James Breeding

Uconn covered the opening line, and that line increased implying that there was more action on Michigan. After all, MI was winning by an average of 30 points and just destroyed AZ
 
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Drfla said:
Back to the power conference theory. They want the power conferences to win. This year the men have fouled quite a bit, but the women did not, until the final four. Women 22-6 foul shot disparity and men 28-16. Tough to overcome.
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THIS. And the Vegas books also had an awful lot to lose if Michigan had lost. Why did the NCAA assign a Big East crew to a championship game with a Big East team? When two of the members of that crew have had extensive negative history with Hurley? Was it random or something else?
 
giddyup said:
I would doubt a ref would be so stupid in a spotlight game, but I wouldn’t put it past Breeding to be a vindictive . What’s fascinating is how blatant the bias can be but we are programmed to dismiss it. This leads to the real vulnerability with big money at stake for ref influenced outcomes. pS - Breeding needs to go
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I’m sure Val will get on it right away
 
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temery said:
That's kind of my point to people who keeps saying, "a coach has to work the refs. He's gotta work the refs."

There is never a positive benefit in "working the refs. "

Coaches need the refs to like and respect them, not to hate them. And no respectable ref has ever feared a coach's wrath.
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They would if the big east and ncaa were not run by baffoons that seemingly don’t care if their sport is run like pro boxing with East German refs. At this point if you’re betting on college basketball, then you’re a mark.
 
Vuce said:
Regardless of all that there is NO WAY Breeding should be officiating a Final Four game involving UConn with his history. There are literally hundreds of officials. It’s not hard, swap one official in the Final Four game between Michigan and AZ and it’s a non issue. If there is one guy who cannot be in that game last night it’s Breeding and it’s not debatable
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^^^THIS^^^

No way in hell he should’ve been on that floor in THE most important game of the year with the obvious history. NCAA blew that one big time.
 
I wish I could just be sad about the game but I hate Cadeau and Breeding. Watched Cadeau a bunch this year and hes been pulling dirty BS all year. Him and TKR from Purdue. Other coaches hate Dusty May, partially from his overuse of the portal but also because they think he coaches dirty tactics. Johnson was pulling similar stuff. Its come up again and again this year. It goes way beyond the annoying way Coach K would teach the charge flop. So F Cadeau, May, Johnson, Michigan, and of course James InBreeding.
 
Inyatkin said:
If there is a pro Big 10 conspiracy, honestly it’d be a lot easier to just let us in rather than rig games against us.
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They didn't have to rig it. All they had to do was assign the final game to Breeding and let his vindictive nature take over. They knew the history between him and Hurley and they knew what our record was in games he reffed. Why are Big East refs working the finals with a Big East team in it anyway? Shouldn't have had a crew from either teams conference. How hard is it to have an ACC or SEC crew? Neither conference was represented in the Final 4. Too logical for the NCAA I guess.
 
RuffRuff said:
Ding ding.

Nothing smelled right about how that game last night was officiated. I rarely call out refs. When the egregiously bad calls are 8-9 to zero, it smells like poo. When the other team can push guys to the ground in the back multiple times with no whistle, it smells like poo. When the defensive player gets called on an illegal screen, it smells like poo.
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Ruff my man, you’re on it in this thread.

If anyone objectively can view that game, with Breeding’s history, as fairly called, you’re lying. Refs miss calls without a conspiracy behind it all the time. This wasn’t that.
 
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