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In the end, it was that play. Regardless of age, or how well he played, in the end that play cost us the game.
 
AtlHusky said:
Hamilton not getting 3 foul shots but instead a shot clock violation might have contributed as well.

This one's not on Jalen, plenty of boneheaded plays throughout from everyone.
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Love the no call there, shot clock was running down Hamilton got himself in trouble and then leaned into the guy looking for a bailout, glad the refs swallowed the whistle. Can't blame the refs in this one, it was all self inflicted.
 
I hate to agree, because Adams was mostly awesome this game and it may well have been a (positive) turning point for him this season, but it's absolutely right, that play was the game.

Up 4, a minute to go, 15 on the shot clock. Even if we take another shot clock violation, Cincy is all but forced to foul us to get back into the game.
 
Incredible.

Rodney Purvis, a senior, THE FERRARI misses four easy layups but yeah let's blame the one freshman who had our only basket of the last five minutes.
 
Incredible.

Rodney Purvis, a senior, THE FERRARI misses four easy layups but yeah let's blame the one freshman who had our only basket of the last five minutes.
 
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People just don't want to pin anything on a freshman when there were so many other mistakes but he doesn't make that pass and we win the game, I think everyone realizes that. We either score to make it 6 and ice the game or at worst we give the ball back to Cincy down 4 with like 43 seconds left. Cincy hadn't scored in 5.5 minutes and Jalen gave them two free points to cut out lead to 2.
 
huskiesnyc said:
A chance to go up 6-7 with under a minute and instead a coast to coast turnover becomes a 2 point lead. Please name a bigger play I'm all ears?
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Cmon , what about the 2 blocks on Nolan? Hell if purvis hits one more free throw, the game is tied. What about the missed lay ups by purvis or the missed 8 footer by Hamilton. What if Hamilton goes 3-11, instead of 2-11? What if KO runs better plays after a time out? Shall I give you more?

Edit: almost forgot, faces get an offensive rebound and rather than kick it out, tries to force a shoot. In a one point game there are many plays that cost of the game. His timing just sucked.

Hamiltons poor shot selection on that 3 after he had juat hit one. I guess he thot the slump was over based on one shot.
 
It could have been worse. It could have been Fred Brown's pass in the 1982 national title game.
 
Palatine said:
It was the turning point. He threw away a four point lead.
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Not really. It was the culmination of many minutes of stagnation that was as much to blame for the Yard's favorite Hamilton being weak at the spot.
 
Stinger92860 said:
Cmon , what about the 2 blocks on Nolan? Hell if purvis hits one more free throw, the game is tied. What about the missed lay ups by purvis or the missed 8 footer by Hamilton. What if Hamilton goes 3-11, instead of 2-11? What if KO runs better plays after a time out? Shall I give you more?

Edit: almost forgot, faces get an offensive rebound and rather than kick it out, tries to force a shoot. In a one point game there are many plays that cost of the game. His timing just sucked.
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None of that happened in crunch time but Jalen's turnover did. Not sure what you don't understand here but I'm done
 
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superjohn said:
People just don't want to pin anything on a freshman when there were so many other mistakes but he doesn't make that pass and we win the game, I think everyone realizes that. We either score to make it 6 and ice the game or at worst we give the ball back to Cincy down 4 with like 43 seconds left. Cincy hadn't scored in 5.5 minutes and Jalen gave them two free points to cut out lead to 2.
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Congratulations - you just proved that any play costing us 2 points would make us lose a 1 point game! So I'm gonna say we lost because of the first missed shot of the game, since we would've been up 6 before Jalen's TO.
 
superjohn said:
People just don't want to pin anything on a freshman when there were so many other mistakes but he doesn't make that pass and we win the game, I think everyone realizes that. We either score to make it 6 and ice the game or at worst we give the ball back to Cincy down 4 with like 43 seconds left. Cincy hadn't scored in 5.5 minutes and Jalen gave them two free points to cut out lead to 2.
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sj we had way too any chances after that ill advised pass to point at this. c'mon.
 
Jalen could have made a great pass on that play and we miss the shot. So the pass in itself was an error but not game costly. We left about 8 points off the board with miss layups, a couple of missed foul shots, shot clock violations, opponents blocking our shots at the rim (not just Phil but DHam's underhanded WTF and others), and so many other errors/stupid plays.

Adams can hold his head up high because if he were not in the game the score would have been worse.
 
Excalibur said:
Hamilton's soft flash was as much to blame if not more.
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YES thank you. My brother called me and we said the same thing after rewinding, where was he gong without the ball - CATCH the damn thing first.
 
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mauconnfan said:
YES thank you. My brother called me and we said the same thing after rewinding, where was he gong without the ball - CATCH the damn thing first.
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He was open, but typically soft.
 
Kitaman said:
Jalen could have made a great pass on that play and we miss the shot. So the pass in itself was an error but not game costly. We left about 8 points off the board with miss layups, a couple of missed foul shots, shot clock violations, opponents blocking our shots at the rim (not just Phil but DHam's underhanded WTF and others), and so many other errors/stupid plays.

Adams can hold his head up high because if he were not in the game the score would have been worse.
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sure, fine if you look backward. But if you look at the pass at the time...up 4 with the ball under 2 minutes should mean make your free throws and go home with a win. That pass changed the game for the worst. Its not all on him, but if he doesn't do that, its a lot more likely a W.
 
Excalibur said:
He was open, but typically soft.
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Yep pass was behind him but so was his defender so naturally you stop and catch it knowing your guy can now make a play on it if you don't protect it. Bad pass, bad job. All in all pretty typical of our possessions down the stretch.
 
dtrumpet said:
sure, fine if you look backward. But if you look at the pass at the time...up 4 with the ball under 2 minutes should mean make your free throws and go home with a win. That pass changed the game for the worst. Its not all on him, but if he doesn't do that, its a lot more likely a W.
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Just saying there were quite a number of 'game costly' errors, some late game some earlier. I just feel freshman get a one year pass especially for one error.
 
JLock819 said:
you can criticize all you want but Miller was fouled on the put back, point blank period. with a make or two we go to OT or win, end of story
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Thank you for mentioning this. I know someone will attack you because we can't criticize the refs. Not only was he fouled on that play but on the Cincinnati basket just before that that tied the game, there were at least two moving picks before the basket that weren't called.
I haven't seen it mentioned, but Ollie actually tried to go after the refs after the whistle. The chickens--its ran out the opposite side so they didn't have to talk to him. I still believe we don't get our share of the calls because Ollie is so passive. Cronin as always in the refs ear at every opportunity but I actually thought he was calmer that two years ago when he got tossed.
 
Again to me the only bad call was the one on Clark which they have huge nads to make a call on, awful job by those guys. The no call on Shonn was fine, didn't feel there was enough but after watching again I thought even less. I am sure if Shonn had time and knew he could go up strong we would have seen a finish or a foul. If he planted and elevated or ball faked 3 guys all would've hacked him. Not his fault at all it as GREAT effort rebound.
 
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Yea let's zero in on that one bad play when in reality we had, no joke about 10 straight horrid possessions when our defense gave us a chance to extend our 2 point lead....typical
 
Yes there were countless small things we could have cleaned up to win this game, but I do agree with the OP that that Jalen turnover was the biggest blunder that "cost" us the game. Now we all know the catch-22 here is a game is made up of a series of plays and decisions, and its impossible to hinge a loss on a single play. BUT, if you HAD to choose a single play that "cost" the game it would have to be that one. Now all of these little mishaps are all in hindsight, if we tweaked a number of things throughout the entire game we would have won by a few points.

So sad to see us lose this one, we had it in the bag. Ollie needs to do a better job with late close game management plain and simple.
 
We are going to have to put Jalen at the point. He is always deferring the dribbling to Dham or SG. On that play he was passing it to dham who was covered. He needs to just run the offense and let those guys play off the ball. I can't stand Sterling Gibbs and how many times he decided to not even look at Shon Miller inside and either threw it to Dham or try to dribble past his guy with the shot clock going down. SG can be very frustrating to watch with the ball in his hands. I know Dham isn't much better but at least he provide us with rebounds and assists. I think KO has to back JA to take control of the team and not always defer to the Dham and SG as he is the only person who can penetrate effectively and dish or score. We will have to live with errors. I mean we are basically going to have to win the AAC Tournament to make the big dance. Why not try to get our point guard acclimated to leading the team for that run.
 
4 point lead at home with a minute to go and you lose in regulation...this is getting old real fast. Too much shades of last season for my liking
 
zls44 said:
How about Rodney Purvis not knowing how to make a layup?
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If RP could make a layup ... we'd probably be rated Top 25. He needs a psychiatrist.
 
scrappy2.0 said:
and he played well for most of it--to bad:(
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Wrong, Jalen was fine. That was a bonehead play but the team had plenty of opportunities to win the game before that. I was screaming at Jalen to take that ball to the hoop before he passed it to the other team. Plus, he's a freshman give him a break. I would continue to let him run the offense and give him the hook if he gets too screwed up. Jalen offers us a dimension we don't have with anyone else it seems and allows Gibbs to play off the ball where he is better. Jalen defers to the other guys including Hamilton because he is the younger player. He is mistake prone because of his lack of experience but I would still rather give him the ball and let him run it unless he is just completely ineffective which has sometimes been the case.
 
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