I agree that this four season stretch doesn't cut it. My whole point was I believe it's going to be really hard for somebody else to come in and do a whole lot better right away. With an obvious short leash coupled with an uphill battle (potential defections, conference, ncaa cloud hanging over the program) there are some quality guys that may opt for more job security than this is one is going to provide. I realize there will still be coaches that are up to taking on the challenge but to say some may think twice is irrational and insane??
You are arguing with an irrational person that loves Ollie. He brings up last year. Well, last year we had WAY more talent than the rest of the AAC AFTER the injuries and we had plenty of experience. People used injuries as an excuse and even I somewhat bought it at the time. And then I looked back and saw what we were actually putting on the floor and realized it was BS. We actually had quite a bit of talent left and several of them were seniors, including a former McD AA. Looking back on it, there is no reasonable excuse for what happened last year. And then you had a bunch of talented kids run away from Ollie after the season. I have seen nothing this year that tells me the results would have been any different, even if Gilbert had not been injured. Sure, we are now legit lacking talent and experience but one can account for that when analyzing the team. Even given that, we are really seeing more of the same. I don't know how much of what happened in 2014 was due to Ollie or how much of that he lost along the way but I have seen enough to know that a change is needed and we can't keep whistling past the graveyard, waiting for him to find it, or we will get buried ourselves. Maybe he gets it back with a change of scenery. Good for him if he does! I would take a good high school coach at this point. I am sure someone will tell us that every good high school coach is being pursued by better programs not on an NCAA investigation so we have no shot with them either.
Is that really what you took away from my multiple posts with multpile paragraphs in this thread? Why do I even bother?
Bluefin and Tuna liking each other's posts. Classic!
Be done. You’ve changed the original argument and are now crying foul and falsehoods. The original claim was that Kevin Ollie getting fired before the end of the year or even fired at all, would turn otherwise interested coaches off to taking the UConn job. You used his position as an alum and a Championship coach as evidence that his dismissal would reek of unfairness and no job security to all future coaching candidates. You clearly don’t understand the business Ollie is in.
Thank you for recapping my arguments for me, I'm well aware of what I wrote. I can even scroll up and read them.
Then you should use said, scroll and read what you wrote. “You think it's inconceivable that a coach of the caliber you would want (i.e. has options) might think twice about a job where the last guy was an alum, won a national championship 4 years ago, made it to the second round 2 years ago and they kick him to the curb mid-season?” This was your quote, right?
BINGO! There would be one terrible year. Yes, probably even worse than this year. Then we could start taking steps forward. I think a good coach, with a full year to recruit, could get us back to at least NIT level the second year, third at most. We might be looking at the NIT for a couple years but, with the right coach, we could be truly relevant again in 4-5 years with a steady rise over that time period. And to those that think we can't attract a good coach, we attracted Calhoun in 1985. We were a bottom feeder back then. Awful. We had worse than awful facilities and the school wasn't nearly as highly regarded, academically, as it is now. Yes, we may be under an investigation but that is WAY outweighed by the positives. These coaches, even the younger ones, saw what Calhoun did here and there is no reason to think it couldn't be done again. If any of these guys thinks they are HOF material, this is a good place for them to prove it.
I'm not so sure. If the coach is likeable and the team is improving, people will come back to support them.
That’s my take as well. A lot of it has to do with which direction things are trending, and if “Coach ____” appears to have a vision and players are buying in to the system, the energy around the program can change rapidly.
I didn’t recognize the post game quotes in either of your recaps. I didn’t hear him say vibes were bad, but he also seemed to limit the vibe comment to the specific NCAA inquiry and not the program at large.
It's the trend line that's the problem. Reverse the timeline with the same records and it'd be a completely different narrative
