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mauconnfan said:
Think it used to be the 3 on 3 drill where the 3 defenders have the inside in a half circle and the other 3 are facing the basket. Coaches throw the ball up at the rim and the all of the defenders need to box out and seal their guy allowing the ball to hit the floor once and then go get it securing the ball. If any one of the defenders fail they stay on the floor until they don't. They keep changing the 3 guys so that's the better place to be so there's 3 very active offensive players looking to get that rebound at all times. Can be very fatiguing if you can't make this happen, very tiring.
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That's it!!!!!
I think it's called ... wait for it ... the "box out drill" - I thought I remembered something about that.:rolleyes:
 
Doctor Hoop said:
That's it!!!!!
I think it's called ... wait for it ... the "box out drill" - I thought I remembered something about that.:rolleyes:
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"3 on 3 Box out drill"? When it came we rolled our eyes back in the day. Heck the first time I had to do it was when I was 12 years old on our Jr Pro team. Our coach was a lunatic (great guy, great coach Fairfield captain a few years prior under Barakat) treated us like we were college kids, but it worked. He also had the "animal drill" where 2 guys stand under the basket one on each of the foul line extended and he was in between us with he ball. He'd roll it straight out towards the foul line or mid court but you couldn't begin to go after it until he blew the whistle so you never know how far it would be, the expectation was to get to the ball no matter how grab it and then score it. The loser stayed if scored upon. I'm talking NO WAY they'd allow this even in HS now, bloody noses, floor burns galore and if you didn't dive you were considered a pVssy. It was indoor fumblelina for those who used to do that as kids with your buddies. And the practice ended with 12 guys shooting one-one on the FT line. Lined up watching the guy turned as hell hoping he'd make them both so we didn't do a suicide. Make the first and miss the 2nd half a suicide. Miss the front end, full suicide. Make them both you big cheer. We were a great FT shooting team needless to say. All this for 2 years prior to getting to HS which was candy in comparison quite honestly, no joke!
 
mauconnfan said:
"3 on 3 Box out drill"? When it came we rolled our eyes back in the day. Heck the first time I had to do it was when I was 12 years old on our Jr Pro team. Our coach was a lunatic (great guy, great coach Fairfield captain a few years prior under Barakat) treated us like we were college kids, but it worked. He also had the "animal drill" where 2 guys stand under the basket one on each of the foul line extended and he was in between us with he ball. He'd roll it straight out towards the foul line or mid court but you couldn't begin to go after it until he blew the whistle so you never know how far it would be, the expectation was to get to the ball no matter how grab it and then score it. The loser stayed if scored upon. I'm talking NO WAY they'd allow this even in HS now, bloody noses, floor burns galore and if you didn't dive you were considered a pVssy. It was indoor fumblelina for those who used to do that as kids with your buddies. And the practice ended with 12 guys shooting one-one on the FT line. Lined up watching the guy turned as hell hoping he'd make them both so we didn't do a suicide. Make the first and miss the 2nd half a suicide. Miss the front end, full suicide. Make them both you big cheer. We were a great FT shooting team needless to say. All this for 2 years prior to getting to HS which was candy in comparison quite honestly, no joke!
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Exactly. Point is, he's 6'10 and pretty athletic. Good strength & conditioning and good fundamentals can be taught/developed.

And I remember those drills myself, the rollout drill, and box out drills. On my HS team I was a 6'3" power forward (at 165 lb the term 'power' is used loosely). We didn't have much size, but we did have shooters. If I didn't box out and play D the way the coaches drew it up I wasn't playing.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
Exactly. Point is, he's 6'10 and pretty athletic. Good strength & conditioning and good fundamentals can be taught/developed.

And I remember those drills myself, the rollout drill, and box out drills. On my HS team I was a 6'3" power forward (at 165 lb the term 'power' is used loosely). We didn't have much size, but we did have shooters. If I didn't box out and play D the way the coaches drew it up I wasn't playing.
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Ha, I was a 6'1" 145 lb power forward. Boxing out was my bread and butter.
 
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This seems likely. Visiting on Wednesday. Commitment could be near. We will see. Hopefully the first positive domino to fall.
 
mauconnfan said:
"3 on 3 Box out drill"? When it came we rolled our eyes back in the day. Heck the first time I had to do it was when I was 12 years old on our Jr Pro team. Our coach was a lunatic (great guy, great coach Fairfield captain a few years prior under Barakat) treated us like we were college kids, but it worked. He also had the "animal drill" where 2 guys stand under the basket one on each of the foul line extended and he was in between us with he ball. He'd roll it straight out towards the foul line or mid court but you couldn't begin to go after it until he blew the whistle so you never know how far it would be, the expectation was to get to the ball no matter how grab it and then score it. The loser stayed if scored upon. I'm talking NO WAY they'd allow this even in HS now, bloody noses, floor burns galore and if you didn't dive you were considered a pVssy. It was indoor fumblelina for those who used to do that as kids with your buddies. And the practice ended with 12 guys shooting one-one on the FT line. Lined up watching the guy turned as hell hoping he'd make them both so we didn't do a suicide. Make the first and miss the 2nd half a suicide. Miss the front end, full suicide. Make them both you big cheer. We were a great FT shooting team needless to say. All this for 2 years prior to getting to HS which was candy in comparison quite honestly, no joke!
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I've done those both as a player and coach, they're so fun.

I think you may have also mentioned our "Jungle" or "Cage" drill, one on one rebounding and finishing, prison-style, haha -- the most fun 10 minutes of practice.

On topic, I think anyone that size and skill could be worth the shot.

These guys end of developing at such crazily variant levels in college, you never know.
 
TopDogs said:
Looks like we've finally offered:
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Well hope this means we will get a commitment pretty soon. Need something good after the all the drama and the horribly long Waters soap opera.
 
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AZHuskiePop said:
He probably thinks he is a guard so,
If I were KO I will tell him how much his game reminds me of Kemba's
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Prepare film of Bobby Wilkerson from the 70's-70's Indiana Hoosier - 6'9 PG and tell him "this can be you"!

Whatever it takes I agree AZpop
 
Doctor Hoop said:
Exactly. Point is, he's 6'10 and pretty athletic. Good strength & conditioning and good fundamentals can be taught/developed.

And I remember those drills myself, the rollout drill, and box out drills. On my HS team I was a 6'3" power forward (at 165 lb the term 'power' is used loosely). We didn't have much size, but we did have shooters. If I didn't box out and play D the way the coaches drew it up I wasn't playing.
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And I was a 6' 3", 163# center on one team and power forward on another. SIGH. Never did need to develop a handle.
 
RichZ said:
And I was a 6' 3", 163# center on one team and power forward on another. SIGH. Never did need to develop a handle.
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Kinda hard to carve out position in the post, too.
 
Doctor Hoop said:
Kinda hard to carve out position in the post, too.
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The biggest guy I had to play against regularly was a 6-8 center who didn't weigh too much more than me. We're talking rail thin. The guy who flat out physically dominated me was 6-5 and about 235.
 
RichZ said:
The biggest guy I had to play against regularly was a 6-8 center who didn't weigh too much more than me. We're talking rail thin. The guy who flat out physically dominated me was 6-5 and about 235.
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Cared....
 
mauconnfan said:
"3 on 3 Box out drill"? When it came we rolled our eyes back in the day. Heck the first time I had to do it was when I was 12 years old on our Jr Pro team. Our coach was a lunatic (great guy, great coach Fairfield captain a few years prior under Barakat) treated us like we were college kids, but it worked. He also had the "animal drill" where 2 guys stand under the basket one on each of the foul line extended and he was in between us with he ball. He'd roll it straight out towards the foul line or mid court but you couldn't begin to go after it until he blew the whistle so you never know how far it would be, the expectation was to get to the ball no matter how grab it and then score it. The loser stayed if scored upon. I'm talking NO WAY they'd allow this even in HS now, bloody noses, floor burns galore and if you didn't dive you were considered a pVssy. It was indoor fumblelina for those who used to do that as kids with your buddies. And the practice ended with 12 guys shooting one-one on the FT line. Lined up watching the guy turned as hell hoping he'd make them both so we didn't do a suicide. Make the first and miss the 2nd half a suicide. Miss the front end, full suicide. Make them both you big cheer. We were a great FT shooting team needless to say. All this for 2 years prior to getting to HS which was candy in comparison quite honestly, no joke!
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Who ran the drill?
 
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mauconnfan said:
Think it used to be the 3 on 3 drill where the 3 defenders have the inside in a half circle and the other 3 are facing the basket. Coaches throw the ball up at the rim and the all of the defenders need to box out and seal their guy allowing the ball to hit the floor once and then go get it securing the ball. If any one of the defenders fail they stay on the floor until they don't. They keep changing the 3 guys so that's the better place to be so there's 3 very active offensive players looking to get that rebound at all times. Can be very fatiguing if you can't make this happen, very tiring.
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Do we have enough dudes to do this?
 
I’m looking at the Rivals top 80 recruits for 2017, and here are the listed weights for players that are 6’8 to 6’10:

190, 197, 200, 200, 200, 200, 201, 210, 210, 210, 220, 220, 220, 220, 225, 235, 235, 246

Upper Quartile: 220
Median: 210
Lower Quartile: 200

Polley is listed at 6’9 210. Carlton is 6’10 235. Diarra is 6’8 215. Cobb is 6'9 290. Whaley is 6’9 200.

There's a lot of complaining about a lack of size in the frontcourt, but looking at the numbers, is our frontcourt size really that much different than the top-end talent that's entering in the NCAA next season?

If you include Whaley, we have a guy in the lower quartile, Polley is the median, Diarra is above the median, Carlton is above the upper quartile and Cobb is, well, a big dude.

Source: Rivals.com
 
Hey Adrien! said:
I’m looking at the Rivals top 80 recruits for 2017, and here are the listed weights for players that are 6’8 to 6’10:

190, 197, 200, 200, 200, 200, 201, 210, 210, 210, 220, 220, 220, 220, 225, 235, 235, 246

Upper Quartile: 220
Median: 210
Lower Quartile: 200

Polley is listed at 6’9 210. Carlton is 6’10 235. Diarra is 6’8 215. Cobb is 6'9 290. Whaley is 6’9 200.

There's a lot of complaining about a lack of size in the frontcourt, but looking at the numbers, is our frontcourt size really that much different than the top-end talent that's entering in the NCAA next season?

If you include Whaley, we have a guy in the lower quartile, Polley is the median, Diarra is above the median, Carlton is above the upper quartile and Cobb is, well, a big dude.

Source: Rivals.com
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You just gave me stats 101,Alan Stein, flashbacks at Uconn Waterbury. (Quiver).

I do like your analysis of team beef however.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
I’m looking at the Rivals top 80 recruits for 2017, and here are the listed weights for players that are 6’8 to 6’10:

190, 197, 200, 200, 200, 200, 201, 210, 210, 210, 220, 220, 220, 220, 225, 235, 235, 246

Upper Quartile: 220
Median: 210
Lower Quartile: 200

Polley is listed at 6’9 210. Carlton is 6’10 235. Diarra is 6’8 215. Cobb is 6'9 290. Whaley is 6’9 200.

There's a lot of complaining about a lack of size in the frontcourt, but looking at the numbers, is our frontcourt size really that much different than the top-end talent that's entering in the NCAA next season?

If you include Whaley, we have a guy in the lower quartile, Polley is the median, Diarra is above the median, Carlton is above the upper quartile and Cobb is, well, a big dude.

Source: Rivals.com
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Here's the problem. None of ours are top 80.
 
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I've never been an advocate for steroids, but after seeing recruit after recruit coming in at 6' 8" to 6'10" and 180 to 200 lbs, I've begun to see the error of my ways.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
I’m looking at the Rivals top 80 recruits for 2017, and here are the listed weights for players that are 6’8 to 6’10:

190, 197, 200, 200, 200, 200, 201, 210, 210, 210, 220, 220, 220, 220, 225, 235, 235, 246

Upper Quartile: 220
Median: 210
Lower Quartile: 200

Polley is listed at 6’9 210. Carlton is 6’10 235. Diarra is 6’8 215. Cobb is 6'9 290. Whaley is 6’9 200.

There's a lot of complaining about a lack of size in the frontcourt, but looking at the numbers, is our frontcourt size really that much different than the top-end talent that's entering in the NCAA next season?

If you include Whaley, we have a guy in the lower quartile, Polley is the median, Diarra is above the median, Carlton is above the upper quartile and Cobb is, well, a big dude.

Source: Rivals.com
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The problem is that Carlton and Diarra are both about 3 inches less than their listed heights.
 
King Husky said:
The problem is that Carlton and Diarra are both about 3 inches less than their listed heights.
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It's not 3" but mau-surements do agree they're a bit less but so is everyone else. Guessing Carlton to be a solid 6-8" and Diarra 6'6-6'7" which is fine with his frame. And Carlton has a nice frame to build on while Cobb is the wide body we just may need. And he's not 6'9" either but at 6-7 1/2 with his size all good there. We may have "the big man" we're all waiting for already locked up we just don't know.
 
Question: Why do all teams lie (er...... exaggerate) on the height of their players? Then we always have two sets of metrics (real vs unreal) to work through to get an accurate picture?
 
TheDude said:
Okafor was around 100 Voshkul was over 100. They just need to rebound and play physica
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Not saying each class doesn't hold hidden gems. There always will be. But think how far recruiting "intelligence" (oxymoron?) has come since Jake and Emeka. So much more video, instantaneous sharing of game tape, even more (yuk) AAU tourney action. It's harder and harder to hide as a gem and so it comes back to what so many here are bemoaning: player development at UConn since boat/bazz/giff.
 
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