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Is Andre ready to take a bigger role?

Milo65 said:
When Andre, is on the floor he brings hustle, strong defense and athleticism. But, at this point, he is a liability as a ball handler, and outside shooter. As a freshman, I love what he brings to the table and he will develop into a star. I just contemplate the number of minutes he's getting as except in isolated flashes, Andre, Sanogo, Polley, Whalley, and Gaffney are inconsistent at best offensively. That's a lot of minutes for guys who struggle at the offensive end.
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I really am trying to see what others see, and I am too lazy to look up whatever metric would either prove or disprove this, but...
I think Jackson has the size to be a versatile defender, and he does have serious ups (blocked a jumper against Nova), but people seem to blow by him pretty easily and he picks up silly fouls. As such, I would not say he is a good defender right now. Happy to be proven wrong.
 
freescooter said:
We have had incredible athletes who have been great basketball players and incredible athletes who ended their careers at mid major programs. Jackson is hard to evaluate because he lost so much time to injury. But until he actually makes shots I’m going to wait on calling him a great player. I mean he has passed up pretty wide open shots an awful lot. Even bigs who have no outside shot would take some of them if left that wide open. We’ll see.
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I agree totally with this. Sometimes when kids are athletic enough to do things that stand out and jump off the page, that player becomes a potential superstar in the minds of fans. I agree 100% with this post. The jury is still out on where this kid is heading. I've said it before, he has a very high ceiling, but sometimes those players never get out of the basement. He is scoring 1 hoop a game, and people are saying he will be a superstar and lottery pick next year. I think he can be a very good player, but like freescooter, I need to see more.
 
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If Hawkins doesn't start from day 1 I will be very surprised but I do know one thing, he will turn many heads by the end of the season - nationally
 
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bendm said:
if you disagree then you actually dont like him as much as anyone...but if not sanogo than who? he and cole are the only two conceivable possibilities and we'll be a better team if sanogo is our leading scorer as opposed to cole. sanogo shoots at a high percentage whereas cole is a volume scorer
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so, if he feels that Sanogo wont/should be the leading scorer means he can't like Sanogo as much as anyone?
That's convoluted
If Cole is the leading scorer then the team is in trouble and unless a big is totally dominant they usually aren't the main scorer - Hawkins, Cole, Martin, Sanogo and Andre all will get their points - if all of them average in double figure the team will be lethal.
 
I'm not sure that this is the thread for this, but what is up with Gaffney? Every time he gets on the court it just looks like he's trying not to make a mistake instead of just being Jalen Gaffney. I thought after that 15 point game recently that it was one of the first times where he just went out there and played. I'm not sure I've seen that since. For as supportive of a coach as Hurley is during games, it's really odd to see somebody playing scared. Just go play.

I'm really okay with Cole on offense and his shot selection as he's one of the only players who actually looks to score every trip down the court. Outside of him and Bouk, who takes it to the rim on a consistent basis? Martin can for sure do it but to me it seems like he hasn't been as aggressive recently. Not sure it that's true or not, just going off what I remember.

It kinda felt like Gaffney's shot was starting to come around after starting off slow, but he just doesn't look to score. He's had some great passes off the pick and roll that I'm not sure anyone else on the roster can make. If Cole actually is better off the bench, it would really make the team better if Gaffney could assert himself and allow Cole to come off the bench.

Gaff has had some great finishes over the course of his first two years here, and he's shooting the 3 at a decent clip, so it seems he has the ability.
 
gtcam said:
so, if he feels that Sanogo wont/should be the leading scorer means he can't like Sanogo as much as anyone?
That's convoluted
If Cole is the leading scorer then the team is in trouble and unless a big is totally dominant they usually aren't the main scorer - Hawkins, Cole, Martin, Sanogo and Andre all will get their points - if all of them average in double figure the team will be lethal.
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Yes, it seems pretty straightforward actually. If one person says he'll score 15 and one person says he'll score 10, the person saying 15 likes him more
 
gtcam said:
If Cole is the leading scorer then the team is in trouble and unless a big is totally dominant they usually aren't the main scorer - Hawkins, Cole, Martin, Sanogo and Andre all will get their points - if all of them average in double figure the team will be lethal.
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Isn't this about as meaningful as saying, "If they can hold opponents to 30 or less they will be really hard to beat"?
 
gtcam said:
If Hawkins doesn't start from day 1 I will be very surprised but I do know one thing, he will turn many heads by the end of the season - nationally
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i think we have a clear top 5 next season and it doesnt include any freshmen: cole/aj/martin/akok/sanogo.

if hawkins ends up starting at some point next year the team will be all the better for it but who is he sending to the bench? no chance it's aj or sanogo. i doubt it would be seniors cole or martin. so right now it would have to be akok just based on him not being 100% and no one wants that to be the case
 
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bendm said:
i think we have a clear top 5 next season and it doesnt include any freshmen: cole/aj/martin/akok/sanogo.

if hawkins ends up starting at some point next year the team will be all the better for it but who is he sending to the bench? no chance it's aj or sanogo. i doubt it would be seniors cole or martin. right now it would have to be akok just based on him not being 100%
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Isn't Martin a junior next year?
 
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Milo65 said:
When Andre, is on the floor he brings hustle, strong defense and athleticism. But, at this point, he is a liability as a ball handler, and outside shooter. As a freshman, I love what he brings to the table and he will develop into a star. I just contemplate the number of minutes he's getting as except in isolated flashes, Andre, Sanogo, Polley, Whalley, and Gaffney are inconsistent at best offensively. That's a lot of minutes for guys who struggle at the offensive end.a shooter
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Milo65 said:
When Andre, is on the floor he brings hustle, strong defense and athleticism. But, at this point, he is a liability as a ball handler, and outside shooter. As a freshman, I love what he brings to the table and he will develop into a star. I just contemplate the number of minutes he's getting as except in isolated flashes, Andre, Sanogo, Polley, Whalley, and Gaffney are inconsistent at best offensively. That's a lot of minutes for guys who struggle at the offensive end.
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Liability as a shooter? Yes
Liability as a ball handler? No, I disagree

I think AJ is a fantastic ball handler considering his size and everything else he can do. He seems extremely comfortable with the ball in his hands unless he’s taking a 3.
 
I think we could still have Martin for 2 more years after this, considering that this year doesn't count towards eligibility. But I think the final year would depend on what Martin wants to do and what direction Dan Hurley wants to go.
 
SeattleHoop said:
Liability as a shooter? Yes
Liability as a ball handler? No, I disagree

I think AJ is a fantastic ball handler considering his size and everything else he can do. He seems extremely comfortable with the ball in his hands unless he’s taking a 3.
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Liability as a shooter? Yes
SeattleHoop said:
Liability as a ball handler? No, I disagree

I think AJ is a fantastic ball handler considering his size and everything else he can do. He seems extremely comfortable with the ball in his hands unless he’s taking a 3.
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The point is more that there’s a multitude of guys getting minutes that can’t/don’t/won’t score. That’s the issue.
 
Milo65 said:
I disagree and the point is, he

The point is more that there’s a multitude of guys getting minutes that can’t/don’t/won’t score. That’s the issue.
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Eh, I think he will look to score more next year with Bouk gone. And I think he is capable to do so. Agree to disagree
 
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SeattleHoop said:
Eh, I think he will look to score more next year with Bouk gone. And I think he is capable to do so. Agree to disagree
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I agree with that, he lost a lot coming off the injury and with all the COVID delay. He should develop more with a real off season and a full season under his belt. Plus the weight training.
 
Andre is shooting 14% from three. Small sample, only 14 shots.

He needs to find ways to get on scoreboard. Put backs, fouls shots, leak outs. If he can score just a little bit, he becomes much more valuable.
 
bendm said:
i think we have a clear top 5 next season and it doesnt include any freshmen: cole/aj/martin/akok/sanogo.

if hawkins ends up starting at some point next year the team will be all the better for it but who is he sending to the bench? no chance it's aj or sanogo. i doubt it would be seniors cole or martin. so right now it would have to be akok just based on him not being 100% and no one wants that to be the case
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Hawkins will absolutely be starting at some point next season.
 
Andre needs to improve his handle so that he can blow by people with a dribble or two. A point guard camp over the summer would help him immensely.
 
superjohn said:
Hawkins will absolutely be starting at some point next season.
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ok so who do you think is getting benched for him? one proclamation deserves another
 
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superjohn said:
I have no idea but Hawkins will be our most talented scorer.
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i guess i can narrow it down. youve said akok and sanogo are the two starting bigs. you're as high on aj as anyone. that means you must think it's either of the seniors cole or martin. i'm just not ready to pencil something like that in yet.

i think hawkins will be our best shooter but idk if he can create his own shot. for that reason im hoping sanogo will be our most talented scorer
 
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bendm said:
i guess i can narrow it down. youve said akok and sanogo are the two starting bigs. you're as high on aj as anyone. that means you must think it's either of the seniors cole or martin. i'm just not ready to pencil something like that in yet.

i think hawkins will be our best shooter but idk if he can create his own shot. for that reason im hoping sanogo will be our most talented scorer
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It won't be Cole as Hawkins isn't a PG.
 
Psolo12 said:
It won't be Cole as Hawkins isn't a PG.
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if AJ can't play PG then that's probably true. But does that mean he thinks Martin would be the odd man out? Our second leading scorer, leading rebounder, and best one on one defender, i.e., second best player overall? kudos to hawkins if he's that good as a frosh.

as i said, i'd have to think akok has the least secure starting role next year due to his recovery but then that would mean we're playing small ball with martin at the 4....
 
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bendm said:
people thought we was gonna play pro ball after 2 years, which i'm a realist about (he's not) but he's still gotta make a big sophomore leap lest he be labeled a disappointment

playing alongside whaley for long stretches has really shackled him and he's been way too foul prone but he should be on the floor for 30+ mpg next year so i can realistically see 15+ ppg. we're gonna need it
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I hear you brother I do so let’s hope ur right
 
Article in today's New London Day. Maybe he'll be the leader the team needs next season.

"Dre brings just a real maturity and a real energy that's different than what James does," coach Dan Hurley said on Monday. "James has got a swagger and a confidence that he brings whereas Dre is a real captain type with the way he communicates with everybody and just his energy level.

"And since James has been back, he hasn't taken a step back because he's really good as a leader, even though he's just a freshman. He's probably our most vocal player."

www.theday.com

UConn notes: Don't measure Jackson's impact by statistics

Freshman Andre Jackson's impact on the UConn basketball team can't solely be measured by statistics. He's significantly more valuable to the Huskies than his 2.9 scoring and 2.7 rebounding averages in...
www.theday.com www.theday.com

Alternate free access: Don’t measure Jackson’s impact by statistics
 
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