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I only went to a few games of UC vs RU. The RU fans were disturbing in their excessive use of "colorful language". Geno had his mother and wife at those games.
Geno mad a joke after that game.

“Yeah, I heard someone behind us calling me names. It could have been my wife, she was at the game”.

Geno cracks me up.
 
@MilfordHusky----How did you like the Marquette (sp?) Vs Miss St. --super great game.
Did you personally know anyone on that team??
I haven't watched it yet. My granddaughter is a sophomore there, but I can't get her to go to see the women's team, even though the Al McGuire Center is only 2 blocks from her dorm. Her younger sister is looking at soccer scholarships and is considering being a walk-on at Marquette. She has several scholarship offers and is taking her time to decide--far more deliberate than Aliyah Boston and Haley Jones! ;)

I believe that Brockton set the school career scoring record this week. They have some players. Imagine if Arike had stayed in Milwaukee to play at Marquette!
 
I haven't watched it yet. My granddaughter is a sophomore there, but I can't get her to go to see the women's team, even though the Al McGuire Center is only 2 blocks from her dorm. Her younger sister is looking at soccer scholarships and is considering being a walk-on at Marquette. She has several scholarship offers and is taking her time to decide--far more deliberate than Aliyah Boston and Haley Jones! ;)

I believe that Brockton set the school career scoring record this week. They have some players. Imagine if Arike had stayed in Milwaukee to play at Marquette!

See the replay. It was great I don't usually watch replays again, except Uconn, but that game was that good. Marquette impressed.
 
Pat's team did not beat UConn early on. In fact, Tennessee has never had the edge against UConn in their head-to-head series.
That’s not true, at one time in the late 90s TN DID lead UCONN in head to head match ups, including a 97 elite 8 upset. Obviously UCONN leads now.

Edit: I’m incorrect. The best the LVs did was tie the series in the early 2000s.
 

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I avoided this topic because i wasn't sure where a thread like this was headed. There are so many new posters on this site and no slight to the one above me but some are 'undercover' and here to stir the drama stick.

Choosing one or the other is easy for me. Having been a long time UCONN fan I will always take the Irish over the Vols any day of the week. What the fans and board went through!! Hostility and pure vile spewed from Vol fans will never go away. I will never forget the things said, typed, or implied. They--at that time--were a fan base that was mostly unchallenged on the basketball court. When Connecticut started to win it took a turn to the ugly side. For us posters that were around I imagine they feel somewhat the same way. While many may see Tennessee as 'irrelevant' right now some scars are just too deep.

I cheer for UCONN and anyone that is playing against Tennessee. I am happiest when UCONN has a win and almost equally happy with a Lady Vol loss.
 
Rocky!! Is this really you? I have come to expect the highest of standards from you. In terms of complaints what you state is accurate. And some of what was done by UT during the recruiting process is true. That is a given.

The disease which took out Pats life is dreadful. Caregivers for them are saints. What most don't realize is that the disease is there inside these victims for long before some one says"
Ah Ha--It's Alzheimer's! The mental thought processes, actions, and deeds are changed it gets worse every year until it is bad enough to be diagnosed.

I detest all the things that UT brought on that damaged UConn and hurt Maya's image (about the nicest young woman to wear Uconn blue and white).
My feelings are that if you want to point a fist at anyone point it towards the UT administration. They were complicit and directly responsible for all words, actions and deeds associated with any damaging actions by Pat. Hopefully all at UT did not have the disease.
I'm a firm believer that a person is no better in death than life.
Sorry Rocky Pat was a lot of things good and bad and the disease is nothing but BAD.


No problem @BroadwayVa. All good information. And we agree that death doesn't or shouldn't be the reason to be blinded to the foibles of the life one led. I do think we have to acknowledge Pat Summit's extraordinary record and what it did to elevate the sport of WCBB.

But to let her off the hook for what she tried to make a clandestine/unattributed effort to severely damage Geno's reputation and career because of Alzheimers, is too facile. And highly questionable and, of course, both unsupported and unknowable. Pat fired off the 30 pages of nonsense to the NCAA through the SEC offices in 2006, the same year (you didn't notice til 2007) that Tenn ended the UConn series. She announced her diagnosis in August 2011 and coached the following season. After filing that some say addled by Alzhaimers complaint Pat took home to more national championships and thereafter coached for 3 more seasons. No whispers of what was wrong with Pat before her revealing of the disease. Not a trace.

So to me Pat earned her blame for killing off the greatest rivalry in the game and attempted a low down smear job on Geno out of an unreasoning outrage at facing the challenge by Geno as the greatest in the game .
 
No problem @BroadwayVa. All good information. And we agree that death doesn't or shouldn't be the reason to be blinded to the foibles of the life one led. I do think we have to acknowledge Pat Summit's extraordinary record and what it did to elevate the sport of WCBB.

But to let her off the hook for what she tried to make a clandestine/unattributed effort to severely damage Geno's reputation and career because of Alzheimers, is too facile. And highly questionable and, of course, both unsupported and unknowable. Pat fired off the 30 pages of nonsense to the NCAA through the SEC offices in 2006, the same year (you didn't notice til 2007) that Tenn ended the UConn series. She announced her diagnosis in August 2011 and coached the following season. After filing that some say addled by Alzhaimers complaint Pat took home to more national championships and thereafter coached for 3 more seasons. No whispers of what was wrong with Pat before her revealing of the disease. Not a trace.

So to me Pat earned her blame for killing off the greatest rivalry in the game and attempted a low down smear job on Geno out of an unreasoning outrage at facing the challenge by Geno as the greatest in the game .
Paranoia is one of the earliest signs of Alzheimers and it can appear before the disease itself is suspected. Such an insidious thing, Alzheimers, robbing its victims of their sense of self and their dignity.

When Geno first heard of PHS's illness he reacted with respect and compassion. Can we not do the same?

Summitt, who has more victories and national championships than any coach in Division I women's basketball history, has announced she has early-stage dementia. And on Tuesday, her fiercest rival reacted with compassion.

"I was shocked and saddened to hear about the news regarding Pat Summitt's diagnosis," Auriemma said in a statement released from Italy, where the Huskies are touring. "You don't necessarily associate dementia with people our age [Summitt is 59, Auriemma is 57] so this announcement really put things in perspective.

"Pat has great support from her family, friends and staff and I know they will help her immensely. There is no doubt in my mind that Pat will take on this challenge as she has all others during her Hall of Fame career — head on. I wish her all the best."

Feud Between Geno Auriemma, Pat Summit, Rapidly Thawing
 
No problem @BroadwayVa. All good information. And we agree that death doesn't or shouldn't be the reason to be blinded to the foibles of the life one led. I do think we have to acknowledge Pat Summit's extraordinary record and what it did to elevate the sport of WCBB.

But to let her off the hook for what she tried to make a clandestine/unattributed effort to severely damage Geno's reputation and career because of Alzheimers, is too facile. And highly questionable and, of course, both unsupported and unknowable. Pat fired off the 30 pages of nonsense to the NCAA through the SEC offices in 2006, the same year (you didn't notice til 2007) that Tenn ended the UConn series. She announced her diagnosis in August 2011 and coached the following season. After filing that some say addled by Alzhaimers complaint Pat took home to more national championships and thereafter coached for 3 more seasons. No whispers of what was wrong with Pat before her revealing of the disease. Not a trace.

So to me Pat earned her blame for killing off the greatest rivalry in the game and attempted a low down smear job on Geno out of an unreasoning outrage at facing the challenge by Geno as the greatest in the game .

Emotionally I agree with you. Logically, admittedly without proof or facts, I give her a limited pass.
I never felt the REAL culprits in this whole mess the Administration of Tenn U. were publically and properly chastised.
It is their job to fact check, verify, and fully vetted any communications, Ncaa complaints or similar possibly wrong, libelous, slanderous communication
If truly Pat's mental capacity was dropping over the year that of the U of Tenn should not have been.
Who is ultimately responsible for the words Geno spurts forth, if libelous in nature? ---Uconn the University. U of Tenn has not been fully taken to task over this issue.

That 's it. If you are correct in all you say about what Pat may have done, I apologize.
But please never allow U Tenn off the hook. .
 
Pat's team did not beat UConn early on. In fact, Tennessee has never had the edge against UConn in their head-to-head series.
Yeah, but Geno lost titles to PHS early when he had the better team.
 
Yeah, but Geno lost titles to PHS early when he had the better team.

When was that? UConn has never lost to Tennessee in the finals and dispatched them pretty handily a few times.
 
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That’s not true, at one time in the late 90s TN DID lead UCONN in head to head match ups, including a 97 elite 8 upset. Obviously UCONN leads now.

Edit: I’m incorrect. The best the LVs did was tie the series in the early 2000s.

Thank you for the attached chart. It seems to debunk the notion that Pat had an early edge on UConn.
 
Hey, I have Tenn and its coach so far in my rear view mirror it's for all intents and purposes gone, though Holly's post game pressers keep bringing them back in a deliciously humorous way. But I gotta be honest in answering a Q like ND or Tenn. It is always going to be the team that took their ball and went home.
 
No problem @BroadwayVa. All good information. And we agree that death doesn't or shouldn't be the reason to be blinded to the foibles of the life one led. I do think we have to acknowledge Pat Summit's extraordinary record and what it did to elevate the sport of WCBB.

But to let her off the hook for what she tried to make a clandestine/unattributed effort to severely damage Geno's reputation and career because of Alzheimers, is too facile. And highly questionable and, of course, both unsupported and unknowable. Pat fired off the 30 pages of nonsense to the NCAA through the SEC offices in 2006, the same year (you didn't notice til 2007) that Tenn ended the UConn series. She announced her diagnosis in August 2011 and coached the following season. After filing that some say addled by Alzhaimers complaint Pat took home to more national championships and thereafter coached for 3 more seasons. No whispers of what was wrong with Pat before her revealing of the disease. Not a trace.

So to me Pat earned her blame for killing off the greatest rivalry in the game and attempted a low down smear job on Geno out of an unreasoning outrage at facing the challenge by Geno as the greatest in the game .
In 1973 my Grandfather died from Alzheimer's, he was one of the first to ever be diagnosed with it and it wasn't pretty. I remember about 5 years before he died that he wasn't himself, always seemed to be petty and paranoid. He also seemed to forget who his grand-kids were and living in the past. his final years were not so great and many of us were thankful when he passed because he wasn't suffering anymore. Unfortunately I went through the whole thing again when my father was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and passed on Veterans Day 2004. I in good conscience can not hold it completely against Coach Summit without taking the Alzheimer's into account. Now with all that being said, with the thought of me rooting for ND in any sport both of my Grandfather's would come back to haunt me from the grave. My Grandfater from my Mother's side was one of the leaders in the agriculture department at Purdue and traveled the World bringing back many different plants to the University for studies. While my Grandfather from my Father's side was a top Administrator at Purdue.
 
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When was that? UConn has never lost to Tennessee in the finals and dispatched them pretty handily a few times.
They never lost in the final but UT beat UConn in the NCAA tournament in 96 and 97. UT won the title both times.
 
Actually, that urban myth was recently busted by our friend @Orangutan , who posted the video. Muffet and her husband withheld their applause, but most of the ND players didn't.
I remember watching the video live. Poor sportsmanship.
 
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Too bad when the conversation sinks to the point of sniping..... the fact is that Pat was the bomb in her time.... and deserves an awful lot of credit for lifting the game to the level to which she brought it....

what to say about the unfortunate chapter with Maya, Maya's mom, Sue, Diana, etc.... oh well

now looking back.... Geno and Chris D have all the accolades.... eclipsed all of Pats marks with the exception of total wins.... which UConn will own in the 19-20 season.... and in a career significantly shorter than Pat's ..,. i think GA and CD have accomplished all they have in 4 and a half seasons shorter than Pat's tenure ... of course in an era where the competition is much tougher....

that comparison is unassailable.... congratulations to the Huskies and its basketball programs....
 
'Tis the season to revive a Holiday post of yore.

With apologies to both Virginia O'Hanlon and New York Sun editor Francis Pharcellus Church --

"Yes, Virginia, there is a Vol Villain"
Dear JS,

I am 8 years old. Some of my little friends say there is no Vol Villain. Papa says, "If you see it on the Boneyard, it's so." Please tell me the truth, is there a Vol Villain?

Virginia O'Hanlon
115 West Ninety-Fifth Street
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Dear Virginia -

Virginia, your little friends are wrong. They have been affected by the skepticism of a skeptical age. They do not believe except what they see.

They think that nothing can be which is not currently seen in Knoxville. All minds, Virginia, whether they be adults’ or children's, are little. But especially those of Vol Villain skeptics.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Vol Villain. She exists in the resentful hearts of living Vol fans who participated in the unmentionable events and in the equally despicable minds of those who echo their sentiments.

She exists as certainly as slanderous accusation and jealous disparagement and malicious mendacity exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its most gratifying moments of both revulsion and schadenfreude.

Alas! how dreary would be a Boneyard if there were no Vol Villain. It would be as dreary as if there were no Virginias. There would be no faith in orange evil then, no certainty of right versus wrong in the realm of WCBB endeavor, no enjoyment, except in sense and sight.

No Vol Villain! Thank God! she lives, and she lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay, ten times ten thousand years from now, any woe that befalls her will continue to make glad the hearts of Husky faithful.

Enjoy the gifts of her stumbling and frustration at the Holidays to come and always.

JS, Christmas 2018
 
when they become irrelevant, as I believe the Lady Vols will remain under their present "coaching", I have to say my disdain (I try not to hate anyone) is for those whose mantra is the Notre Dame fight song. In my years of watching, others rise and fall but there has been only one constant - and their home is Storrs.
 

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