Interesting commentary from DeLeone on N. Williams and M Nebrich

[IMind]

WRs have been our biggest issue by far. i think we're recruiting good ones, they're just not developing. does anyone know who our WR coach was in the DanO years? it seems odd that we got so much production out of Keron Henry, Feldheisen, ONeill Wilson, etcetera, but can't get squat out of the Moores, Williams and company now. even Kanuch seemed to get worse every year (even accounting for the injuries he seemed to regress). the one great WR we've had didnt' really get to show his stuff off until halfway through his senior year. i know that players seem to like Coach Sos, but there's obviously some kind of deficency in how we develop WRs

I think you're under rating the talent we had at WR during the DanO years... both Keron Henry and O'Neil Wilson went on to pro careers. Heck, Wilson is still in the CFL.... The funny thing is before he came to UConn Coach Moorhead was known for producing some great WRs... and very productive WRs. I do think we've been snakebit at WR and QB... we've had a lot of injuries at both positions. Particularly at QB over the last three years. That can't help the situation out at all.

 

[huskyrob1]

JM throws the ball a little better than Zach did. Better at some throws, not as good at others, but as a thrower he is as good to slightly better. Zach was far, far superior to JM at the decision making and moving in pocket prior to throwing the ball. And I didn't think Zach was particularly good at those aspects.

But I agree with Carl. It is what it is, and where we are is 12 good quarters from defending our conference championship. All I need from JM Saturday is turnover free football. I don't need him to turn into an average Big East QB.

I know you've been to more games than I have this year but I really don't think McEntee is a better passer than Zack was, McEntee has big problems throwing short passes into the flat in that they are almost always into the grass, and he has bigger problems with accuracy in throwing to receivers running lateral routes across the field, either they're behind or way out in front and get picked off. If he has time to throw and no pressure he's a little better but not much. Add to that his running ability is zero so QB draw plays are out of the question, he can't scramble and if he does he also has problems throwing off of his heals so even play action is a crapshoot. The only thing he can do well is throw straight down the field or deep routs down either sideline and that's only if he has time. Bottom line is defensive coordinators love him.

 

[Palatine]

Mac can throw three passes.

An 8-yard button hook to Griffin.
A 12-yard down and in to I. Moore.
A 9-yard square out to K. Moore

He has shown some consistency with those three routes. The rest is pretty chancy. Not exactly the stuff of nightmares for defensive coordinators.

 

[sdhusky]

Then run him on an end around. Throw him a bubble screen. Put him in the backfield and have him run an out to the corner (SF did this with Crabtree on the two-point conversion Last Sunday). None of those involves running complex routes.

If if he didn't get it. How did he win the Buffalo game when none of the other receivers did squat.? Explain that?

I agree with her completely with you on this.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Completely disagree. Frazer's upper body throwing motion was closer to ideally throwing motion of a shotput, rather than a football. He threw high velocity knuckleballs, and couldn't hit the side of a barn when he tried to do anything else but throw a ball on a frozen rope. He had a great lower body and footwork though, and could reset and throw if he got knocked out of his rhythm. Never ceased to amaze me how much force he could get behind those knuckleballs he threw.

McEntee is the textbook definition of a rhythym passer. This guy can spin the ball, and thread a needle anywhere on the field, and change velocities, arcs on the ball, if, HUGE IF, he's able to drop back, step and throw without getting his lower body and footwork disturbed. see you tube video. He gets inconsistent when his rhythym with the lower body is disturbed, and needs to make good decisions when he's not able to throw in rhythym. He's lost if he's throwing off his back foot, or having to throw on the run, but he's gotten a lot better at moving around, and then resetting if he's got time, and then throwing.

Johnny Mac's got to read the field, know the defense, know the offense, make a good decision and let the ball fly fast out of his hands. A ball that comes out in 2 seconds post snap and flies over the bench, is better for this guy than holding it 4 seconds and trying to make something happen out of nothing. Live to play the next play, and get the rhythym going of getting the snap, and letting it fly - FAST.

That's this man's opinion.

 

[Carl Spackler]

If the offensive line dominates scrimmage on Saturday, I think you'll see McEntee have a good game. That's what I hope to see. The offensive line needs to control scrimmage, and it's easier for McEntee to get into rhythym and make good decisions.

 

[Husky68]

Completely disagree. Frazer's upper body throwing motion was closer to ideally throwing motion of a shotput, rather than a football. He threw high velocity knuckleballs, and couldn't hit the side of a barn when he tried to do anything else but throw a ball on a frozen rope. He had a great lower body and footwork though, and could reset and throw if he got knocked out of his rhythm. Never ceased to amaze me how much force he could get behind those knuckleballs he threw.

McEntee is the textbook definition of a rhythym passer. This guy can spin the ball, and thread a needle anywhere on the field, and change velocities, arcs on the ball, if, HUGE IF, he's able to drop back, step and throw without getting his lower body and footwork disturbed. see you tube video. He gets inconsistent when his rhythym with the lower body is disturbed, and needs to make good decisions when he's not able to throw in rhythym. He's lost if he's throwing off his back foot, or having to throw on the run, but he's gotten a lot better at moving around, and then resetting if he's got time, and then throwing.

Johnny Mac's got to read the field, know the defense, know the offense, make a good decision and let the ball fly fast out of his hands. A ball that comes out in 2 seconds post snap and flies over the bench, is better for this guy than holding it 4 seconds and trying to make something happen out of nothing. Live to play the next play, and get the rhythym going of getting the snap, and letting it fly - FAST.

That's this man's opinion.

What you are saying is that if you needed a QB to shoot a YouTube trick passing video (hopefully with no mean defensive lineman included) you'd pick JMc hands down over Zach.

 

[huskyrob1]

Completely disagree. Frazer's upper body throwing motion was closer to ideally throwing motion of a shotput, rather than a football. He threw high velocity knuckleballs, and couldn't hit the side of a barn when he tried to do anything else but throw a ball on a frozen rope. He had a great lower body and footwork though, and could reset and throw if he got knocked out of his rhythm. Never ceased to amaze me how much force he could get behind those knuckleballs he threw.

McEntee is the textbook definition of a rhythym passer. This guy can spin the ball, and thread a needle anywhere on the field, and change velocities, arcs on the ball, if, HUGE IF, he's able to drop back, step and throw without getting his lower body and footwork disturbed. see you tube video. He gets inconsistent when his rhythym with the lower body is disturbed, and needs to make good decisions when he's not able to throw in rhythym. He's lost if he's throwing off his back foot, or having to throw on the run, but he's gotten a lot better at moving around, and then resetting if he's got time, and then throwing.

Johnny Mac's got to read the field, know the defense, know the offense, make a good decision and let the ball fly fast out of his hands. A ball that comes out in 2 seconds post snap and flies over the bench, is better for this guy than holding it 4 seconds and trying to make something happen out of nothing. Live to play the next play, and get the rhythym going of getting the snap, and letting it fly - FAST.

That's this man's opinion.

This man's opinion is McEntee should be playing at Marist, not at UCONN. He's in way over his head more often than not, and what's worse is the defenses know it.

 

[Carl Spackler]

What you are saying is that if you needed a QB to shoot a YouTube trick passing video (hopefully with no mean defensive lineman included) you'd pick JMc hands down over Zach.

Yup. and if I could play 6 million dollar bionic man, I'd put together individual pieces and parts of the brains, hearts, legs, hips, arms, upper body's, eyes, hands and feet and lower body's from the 3 QB's we've got now, and several of the ones we've had recently.

Be real nice to have it all in one package. I'm not so sure we don't have it right now, but the kid is jsut 18 years old and trying to grow into a body and develop the brain.

 

[Carl Spackler]

This man's opinion is McEntee should be playing at Marist, not at UCONN. He's in way over his head more often than not, and what's worse is the defenses know it.

Well, too bad for you then that McEntee actually does play for UConn, and will play Saturday. I hope you're not at the game Saturday. High level sports always attracts energy suckers, and football is the highest level of energy. Energy is what it's all about. Experiencing it, contributing to it is what makes it great. Energy suckers are the worst though, they just come to suck. Stop sucking.

 

[mauconnfan]

i don't care how many uconn fans youve run into or what they thought of anybody, but McEntee has averaged 168 passing yards/game compeleting 52% of his passes with 1.5 TDs/IN with 6.4 yds/attempt. if you don't think that's in the same ballpark as the production we've gotten over the last 5 years i suggest you spend less time talking to other fans and more time watching games. i never said McEntee was as good as Endres or anyone else, i said he was about as productive, and he was, and he did it without Donald Brown, Todman or Dixon to hand off too. McCombs is good, but he's not those guys yet

Not sure I was pointing at you mattp and you can think what you want about me watching games because I could honestly care less. I admit I don't watch them all and I admit McCombs isn't as fun to hand off as Brown and Todman, not yet at least. But I have another scenario for you - maybe McCombs would like it a heckuva lot more if the other defense was worried about the pass just a lilttle or worried that the QB could actually get out of his own way and make a play??? Lorenzan could make plays with his legs so hence it made life a littel easier for the RB's from what I remember. TL was twice as good (and he wasn't all that good)as this kid, not close.

Anyway between you and the flyer88-dude I may be ignorant and I'm certainly more of a hoops guy than a football guy but I am a UConn guy no matter. I may not know the ins and outs of the game itself but I can see athletes and playmakes and for now UConn is embarrassing at the Qb position like it or not!! Just one ignorant mans opinion and he has no shot of changing it I promise - there will be no bowls if he's taking snaps!! Unless the defense scores a lot!! lol

 

[gars44]

You may not be able to define the word "playmak

Not sure I was pointing at you mattp and you can think what you want about me watching games because I could honestly care less. I admit I don't watch them all and I admit McCombs isn't as fun to hand off as Brown and Todman, not yet at least. But I have another scenario for you - maybe McCombs would like it a heckuva lot more if the other defense was worried about the pass just a lilttle or worried that the QB could actually get out of his own way and make a play??? Lorenzan could make plays with his legs so hence it made life a littel easier for the RB's from what I remember. TL was twice as good (and he wasn't all that good)as this kid, not close.

Anyway between you and the flyer88-dude I may be ignorant and I'm certainly more of a hoops guy than a football guy but I am a UConn guy no matter. I may not know the ins and outs of the game itself but I can see athletes and playmakes and for now UConn is embarrassing at the Qb position like it or not!! Just one ignorant mans opinion and he has no shot of changing it I promise - there will be no bowls if he's taking snaps!! Unless the defense scores a lot!! lol

Hey Mau! You may not be able to define "playmaker" but you know one when you see one, eh? I think you have it right. But how did we get to this place where even MAC teams have much better looking quarterbacks and running backs than we do? I was watching Western Michigan v. Miami (Ohio) the other night, and their skill players were way ahead of ours. How does that happen? I'm not a RE basher, but how the name of Mary and Joseph did RE leave the cupboard so bare? How could he never recruit a serviceable quarterback?

 

[Chin Diesel]

You may not be able to define the word "playmak

Hey Mau! You may not be able to define "playmaker" but you know one when you see one, eh? I think you have it right. But how did we get to this place where even MAC teams have much better looking quarterbacks and running backs than we do? I was watching Western Michigan v. Miami (Ohio) the other night, and their skill players were way ahead of ours. How does that happen? I'm not a RE basher, but how the name of Mary and Joseph did RE leave the cupboard so bare? How could he never recruit a serviceable quarterback?

Let's face it, QB's and RE don't' go together all that well. Look what he is doing at Maryland where he was returning the conference's freshmen of the year.

 

[gars44]

Let's face it, QB's and RE don't' go together all that well. Look what he is doing at Maryland where he was returning the conference's freshmen of the year.

true dat. It's now almost 11. Time to head to the Rent! Cya later!