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Impact on Recruiting for Move to Big East

DaveHuskiesFan said:
I mean are you ignoring facts? Look at the conference ratings. 15.33 is almost 3x as much as 5.59. It’s 3x as good. The last 3 years 9/10 teams have been ranked inside the top 100. The American has never had a year with more than 8 teams inside the top 100. The big east worst ranked team last year was 118. The Americans was 283.
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I completely agree with your point that the BE is better than the AAC and am pumped to be back playing against old rivals, but if you are going to use Kenpom conference ratings you should really include last year as well which was a much closer margin. Either way, the hope is we get back to being a top team and keep the BE in the ~3 range going forward.

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skies88 said:
That's fair, but at the same time we're still traveling to Omaha, Milwaukee, and Chicago. The differences in finances would be slim *assuming you were talking strictly about travel
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Including all sports. Flight housing food insurance and staff for 60 football players not called Alabama carries quite the pay tag.
 
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Bonehead said:
Thank god we didnt go acc.
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I don't think he (or anybody else) is saying the Big East is better than the ACC. It was never an option, either. But let's say we are competing with Syracuse for a recruit. There would be nothing about the AAC that we could sell them on compared to the ACC. Now, at the very least, we can try to see the games at MSG. That's the point I believe he was trying to make, and I don't think it's insignificant.
 
Everyone who doesn’t like the move keeps saying how this doesn’t do anything for UConn men’s basketball but what did staying in the AAC do for UConn in the long run? Yes football is up in the air but that has nothing to do with the basketball team. What benefits do y’all AAC loyalist see by staying in the conference? More travel, more opponents nobody gives a damn about, empty stadiums and far less recognition nationally?

Instead of saying the negatives on the move to the NBE let’s hear some positives if we stayed in the AAC? Honestly can’t think of too many. Maybe a little more money? (which hopefully a new SNY contract can help offset). We haven’t been able to recruit the NE region successfully or for that matter any region successfully. Not trying to take shots at anyone but can anyone actually give me positives about staying in the AAC? I see far more benefits for the b-ball program with this move home.
 
nashusky109 said:
Everyone who doesn’t like the move keeps saying how this doesn’t do anything for UConn men’s basketball but what did staying in the AAC do for UConn in the long run? Yes football is up in the air but that has nothing to do with the basketball team. What benefits do y’all AAC loyalist see by staying in the conference? More travel, more opponents nobody gives a damn about, empty stadiums and far less recognition nationally?

Instead of saying the negatives on the move to the NBE let’s hear some positives if we stayed in the AAC? Honestly can’t think of too many. Maybe a little more money? (which hopefully a new SNY contract can help offset). We haven’t been able to recruit the NE region successfully or for that matter any region successfully. Not trying to take shots at anyone but can anyone actually give me positives about staying in the AAC? I see far more benefits for the b-ball program with this move home.
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I agree. The AAC did nothing for basketball - the rivalries were never going to develop and it just plain was not fun! The NBE is going to be fun, we are going to become a NE/NY/NJ recruiting powerhouse and for the high school kids coming up we are going to be the #1 option for staying close to home AND exposure on the national stage. Complete win - Hurley will make it happen!
 
Lefty2one said:
It's huge. Every negative recruiting angle another school could throw at recruits is out the window.

- Terrible basketball conference
- No traditional rivals
- A ridiculous amount of travel
- Awful TV times/schedule (death to those Thurs 9 PM and Sunday 2 PM games on CBSSN)
- Playing in front of small crowds on the road

All gone.
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Couldn’t of said it better myself. And to think, some boneyards are actually complaining about the move back to BE. Lolololol
 
How bout playing our big east semifinal game in the garden on Friday night against nova? Back in the spotlight. Or wud u guys rather play at 3pm on a Saturday against temple down in Memphis? Comical. Did u guys see how weak the aac crowds were this past year? Cmon. This is a no brainer. AAC people need to stop. Football is done. Sad but let’s be real. This is a new day and a great day for uconn.
 
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Patiently waiting for the Uconn football fan to explain to us how the big east move is going to hurt basketball recruiting.
 
Patiently waiting for the UConn basketball fan to explain to us how the big east move is going to help football recruiting.
 
Here’s what we need to remember about the AAC. KO wins a national championship in 2014 along with the UCONN women. We’ve done that twice. There was a huge parade (I attended) and it was great. That was the part where I envisioned a line of top recruits outside KO’s office door elbowing their way into our program, especially since our profile couldn’t be better coming off 2011.
Instead we pulled in the kind of talent that has led to our current sad state. Even with the negativity regarding APR and Calhoun’s departure we should have gotten better players. We could not and still can’t get a big man to come here. I can’t even guess how many quality recruits the AAC has killed off from coming here and the players will never say that. These kids don’t want to play Tulsa and East Carolina and have a crappy schedule. The Memphis class with Hardaway is an outlier. It really is that simple.
We should know in 6-12 months if this juices our recruiting. You simply cannot win without players, and winning cures all ills unless your in the AAC.
 
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Kids do not care about the Big East brand like they used to do. This imo is living in the past. Plus Espn is way more important branding network than Fox. I dont think this will help recruiting either, as.the high school basketball scene has changed drastically in a decade. Kids will go where they can get play time and have a chance at winning. Uconn is not going pay big dividends from this move.
 
Portico said:
Kids do not care about the Big East brand like they used to do. This imo is living in the past. Plus Espn is way more important branding network than Fox. I dont think this will help recruiting either, as.the high school basketball scene has changed drastically in a decade. Kids will go where they can get play time and have a chance at winning. Uconn is not going pay big dividends from this move.
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You’re wrong
 
Portico said:
Kids do not care about the Big East brand like they used to do. This imo is living in the past. Plus Espn is way more important branding network than Fox. I dont think this will help recruiting either, as.the high school basketball scene has changed drastically in a decade. Kids will go where they can get play time and have a chance at winning. Uconn is not going pay big dividends from this move.
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They care about it so much more than the AAC though. If kids' perception of the old Big East was 9/10, new Big East is 6/10 and the AAC is a 2/10
 
Here are my thoughts as someone who is intimately familiar with the NBE and pretty familiar with college basketball as a whole...

The Big East clearly gets lower recruits than the other P5 conferences in general. However, college basketball is not what it was. If you haven't noticed, kids who are fresh and sophs are leaving for the NBA (or more accurately the G-league) without even being on any draft board in droves.

Six players were picked from the Pac-12 in last weeks draft and the Pac-12 was an abomination last year.

Big East schools as a generality recruit in the 40-150 sweet spot (occasionally higher) and generally look for kids to stay 4 years. Big East also is a guard's league. Very rarely does the league get or develop lottery quality big men, we play on the perimeter, which obviously works in every level of basketball in 2019.

So, that is what I believe Hurley will sell. If UConn wanted to be one and done, or a one hit wonder and recruit the James Wisemans of the world and have the #1 recruiting class, then they probably don't come to the Big East.

UConn is recruiting at a high enough level ranking wise NOW to win the national championship. Look at the Texas Tech roster for . It's about getting the right kids in and getting the right culture in place ... and the Big East is better for that.
 
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