Illinois Post Game Thread

[thekollieman]

Question for the non-casuals; Is Solo being tasked with taking harder outside shots this year? Perhaps it’s only in my mind but I remember him taking more set three pointers last year where he had great form. This year he seems to be curling around a pick, catching, and shooting a lot more. That is a much harder shot to make and he’s off balance, kicking, chucking, etc. more than I remember in the past. Is this the progression a shooter has to make? Anyway, he’s a great player and has certainly has improved on his drive-dribble and pull-up shots. He also looks like a great teammate to be around. Hopefully he can work out his mechanics beyond the arc. Very happy he is on our team.

I think much of it comes down to him being a high priority task on defense after he lit up all season last year. So he’s covered with greater intensity than ever before, and it’s affecting his three maybe even in instances where he’s more open because he’s thinking about the impending double-team or foul that he’s experienced a lot so far this year. In the meantime, he’s finding ways to put up points regardless, so I think he’ll be just fine in the long run and his 3pt percentage will balance out to something maybe not as high as last year, but still relatively efficient.

 

[Magic32]

Question for the non-casuals; Is Solo being tasked with taking harder outside shots this year? Perhaps it’s only in my mind but I remember him taking more set three pointers last year where he had great form. This year he seems to be curling around a pick, catching, and shooting a lot more. That is a much harder shot to make and he’s off balance, kicking, chucking, etc. more than I remember in the past. Is this the progression a shooter has to make? Anyway, he’s a great player and has certainly has improved on his drive-dribble and pull-up shots. He also looks like a great teammate to be around. Hopefully he can work out his mechanics beyond the arc. Very happy he is on our team.

To me it seems like he really put in the work on his mid range game and driving to the basket, both improved. It could be a simple mental block like Karaban had last year, feeling pressure to lead the team. I believe his shot will come around, they are good looks for the most part.

 

[Umami Zen]

Reed's HC said in presser he played like a warrior in the 15 minutes he was allocated. I'll go with the coach's vibe and hope that Tarris is closer to more minutes on Tuesday and not worry about what version of Reed you saw on Friday.

 

[RuffRuff]

Reed's HC said in presser he played like a warrior in the 15 minutes he was allocated. I'll go with the coach's vibe and hope that Tarris is closer to more minutes on Tuesday and not worry about what version of Reed you saw on Friday.

Our guy Danny tends to go a little hyperbolic with the press. He said he was about a week away from being fully ready - so I'm guessing by Tuesday, he's incrementally closer to being totally ready but not all the way there. I'd guess he's good for 20. Bidunga would be a guy that would give Reibe fits given his athletecism.

 

[upstater]

I know Hurley is saying it's mental, and it most likely is, but I am left wondering how the extra bulk may have affected his shot. Watching him live at MSG it's clear that the new guns and boulder shoulders are giving him confidence and power to finish near/at the rim--last year he missed so many layups it was comical.

He is never going straight up on his shot. He is always off balance. He didn't shoot that way last year.

 

[Umami Zen]

Our guy Danny tends to go a little hyperbolic with the press. He said he was about a week away from being fully ready - so I'm guessing by Tuesday, he's incrementally closer to being totally ready but not all the way there. I'd guess he's good for 20. Bidunga would be a guy that would give Reibe fits given his athletecism.

Bidunga is a solid two way player. Gotta keep him out of the paint and/or get him in early foul trouble. Peterson playing or not playing will have a big impact on outcome. Make a few threes and keep the crowd quiet. Would be cool to see us starting to improve our FT%-esp. away from home.

 

[cwh20]

Interesting… so the rabbit hole goes deeper. Love the picture. How do we go from 30 (when it should have been 20) on the clock at 2:32 to 19 at 2:29? If you measure it from this moment in time then it never would have been a shot clock violation at all, but they still did initially reset the shot clock upon Reibe’s possession of the rebound at 2:32.

I just put a stopwatch to when the ball was secured by Reibe to when Malachi was fouled. 21.5 seconds. The foul and made shot were not in time at least according to actual time and not factoring in clock reset errors.

 

[thekollieman]

I just put a stopwatch to when the ball was secured by Reibe to when Malachi was fouled. 21.5 seconds. The foul and made shot were not in time at least according to actual time and not factoring in clock reset errors.

I agree with that, but the whole reset to 30 seconds followed by a countdown from 20 appears to be standard when preparing for a defensive rebound while the ball hasn’t been secured yet. The clock operator reset to 20 on the shot clock a second or two after Reibe already secured it. So the actual time elapsed was 21.5, like you said, but per the sloppy clock operation it was under 20 (is what I’ve gathered, anyway). The whole thing was a mess.

 

[Waquoit]

I made the same mistake. It was Petrovic that got in foul trouble.

Not the same guy? Anyway, I was throwing superjohn a bone.

 

[dennismenace]

I just put a stopwatch to when the ball was secured by Reibe to when Malachi was fouled. 21.5 seconds. The foul and made shot were not in time at least according to actual time and not factoring in clock reset errors.

Love the depth and creative analysis the BY will go to on any single incident. This is becoming an all time epic BY commentary subject. Imagine if the call had gone the other way.

 

[thekollieman]

Love the depth and creative analysis the BY will go to on any single incident. This is becoming an all time epic BY commentary subject. Imagine if the call had gone the other way.

That was my primary motivation trying to get to the bottom of it. If UConn were down by 7 with some momentum with over two minutes left, I’d have faith they could win a game like that. I would’ve been irate if that happened in reversed roles and the explanation was so poor.

 

[KingAG]

That was my primary motivation trying to get to the bottom of it. If UConn were down by 7 with some momentum with over two minutes left, I’d have faith they could win a game like that. I would’ve been irate if that happened in reversed roles and the explanation was so poor.

I was grumpy yesterday. Don’t mind me. Was going to DM you. Decided to do it in the open instead. I was being a d o u c h e. Salute to you . Go Huskies

 

[RuffRuff]

I was grumpy yesterday. Don’t mind me. Was going to DM you. Decided to do it in the open instead. I was being a d o u c h e. Salute to you . Go Huskies

That is really healthy accountability right there. Too much trypotphan?

 

[thekollieman]

I was grumpy yesterday. Don’t mind me. Was going to DM you. Decided to do it in the open instead. I was being a d o u c h e. Salute to you . Go Huskies

No worries bro I promise I understand your passion. Go Huskies

 

[KingAG]

That is really healthy accountability right there. Too much trypotphan?

I set my oven on fire yesterday. Baked ham. Hole in the pan. Kaboom.

=

KingAntG being a jerk

 

[Palatine]

Don't worry the refs will do something that hurts us soon. And then you can forget all about the shot clock in the Illinois game.

 

[Gurleyman]

I just put a stopwatch to when the ball was secured by Reibe to when Malachi was fouled. 21.5 seconds. The foul and made shot were not in time at least according to actual time and not factoring in clock reset errors.

I was hoping they'd give us the ball out of bounds with 2 seconds. Pleasantly surprised they counted it, and would be upset if I was an Illinois fan for sure. There is some human reaction time setting the shot clock, especially now that it's either 20 or 30 depending on who gets it, but if the refs were to go to a stopwatch, they'd probably have to eliminate that element.

Reibe also probably fouled on the rebound reaching over the top of a guy, and that could have cut it to 5 - and then things are getting a little hairy. We'll get better at not playing with our food - just needed to hit some of the open looks we were getting to finish them off. That was what we did down the stretch against Purdue - milked the shot clock, and finished the play. Even while Edey was going off with Clingan in foul trouble, we matched them basket for basket and it never got below 13.

 

[CL82]

Sounds like the name of a law firm. And they will be bringing their law to the paint this year.

The way you phrase it sounds like a 70s weekly drama.

 

[Husky Alien]

hurley was pretty clear that he was not 100% and pretty much the only reason he played was to give reibe a break.

If hurley wasn't happy with his focus,he would have said so.

My comment was more particularly about him being engaged or as you would say focus. I did mention his injuries that seem to set him back. Now he is able to run but not at full strength and we hardly threw the ball down low to him in the 1st half. He tends to get down on himself when this happens even when he is healthy. I don't think at this point Hurley would mention his lack of focus when he/Tarris has other obstacles to get over. Once his conditioning gets better he will get the ball much more and you should see a much more engaged Tarris Reed. It would not be a good motivating comment if Hurley had mentioned the "focus".

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Now he is able to run but not at full strength and we hardly threw the ball down low to him in the 1st half.

The problem with the armchair psychology is that Hurley explicitly referenced this in his post-game and made it sound as if getting the ball to Tarris on an island to let him take someone one on one was not an option yesterday due to his injury.

 

[Scottobot]

Love the depth and creative analysis the BY will go to on any single incident. This is becoming an all time epic BY commentary subject. Imagine if the call had gone the other way.

I think the refs made a bunch of questionable calls in Illinois favor leading up to that point to try to stop the game from getting out of hand and to be more exciting for TV, and they felt guilty taking away that basket after all of that so they didn’t.

Its on the refs to notice on a rebound if there is a shot clock resetting incorrectly and they didn’t notice. Had there not been a foul
on that play would it have gone completely unnoticed?

 

[thekollieman]

I think the refs made a bunch of questionable calls in Illinois favor leading up to that point to try to stop the game from getting out of hand and to be more exciting for TV, and they felt guilty taking away that basket after all of that so they didn’t.

Its on the refs to notice on a rebound if there is a shot clock resetting incorrectly and they didn’t notice. Had there not been a foul
on that play would it have gone completely unnoticed?

I think Underwood was screaming about it and ultimately helped bring it to their attention. Although he could’ve been protesting a no call that could’ve been Reibe over-the-back (I was braced for a whistle on the rebound and obviously so glad it didn’t come).

 

[dennismenace]

The way you phrase it sounds like a 70s weekly drama.

The name rang a bell and now I remember:

Reid and Riege, P.C.

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www.tagalliances.com

 

[Umami Zen]

Understand the back and forth on Smith's 4 point play. Refs are calling it like they see/saw it. Part of the game. I'll just say over the last few years we've had a fair amount of "judgment calls" go against us. Nice to have a call go to the Good Guys. It all evens out over the course of a season. The Law of Large Numbers. Pretty decent reflexes by Smith to get off the shot-with the bench telling him to shoot it- with a big dude in his face and even get it close to the basket-let alone make it.

No interest in debating. Just an opinion.

 

[Mr. French]

I think the refs made a bunch of questionable calls in Illinois favor leading up to that point to try to stop the game from getting out of hand and to be more exciting for TV, and they felt guilty taking away that basket after all of that so they didn’t.

Its on the refs to notice on a rebound if there is a shot clock resetting incorrectly and they didn’t notice. Had there not been a foul
on that play would it have gone completely unnoticed?

Honestly, that is part of it - I agree.

The refs are supposed to notice that if it happens - if they didn't notice it and Mali is going off of the 20 on the shot clock, how do the refs justify taking away that shot? He was basing not shooting right away on the fact that the 20 got reset.

It wouldn't exactly have been fair if they just gave the ball to Illinois either. So in that situation, I think they had to just let it play out.

 

[Husky Alien]

The problem with the armchair psychology is that Hurley explicitly referenced this in his post-game and made it sound as if getting the ball to Tarris on an island to let him take someone one on one was not an option yesterday due to his injury.

I'm not disputing that he was not getting the ball because of him coming back from his injury and he was limited. It's great to see him get some run in a big game to get him possibly in better condition for the Kansas game. But it does not negate his body language when he is not getting touches. I did not see Tarris on an island reference in the post game presser.

 

[aboogieee]

FWIW, Indiana, Texas, and UNC all cut double-digit leads to single digits in the second half against the 2023–24 team (Gonzaga, 18 to 10). Texas even got it down to four before Alex hit back-to-back jumpers, both coming late in the shot clock. Give this group some grace—they’re just getting started. They missed a few dagger shots that would’ve buried BYU and Illinois. No big deal. There’s no such thing as a bad win, especially in November.

 

[KingAG]

FWIW, Indiana, Texas, and UNC all cut double-digit leads to single digits in the second half against the 2023–24 team (Gonzaga, 18 to 10). Texas even got it down to four before Alex hit back-to-back jumpers, both coming late in the shot clock. Give this group some grace—they’re just getting started. They missed a few dagger shots that would’ve buried BYU and Illinois. No big deal. There’s no such thing as a bad win, especially in November.

Agreed. And by the end of the year they bad it figured out. The same will happen with this team

 

[TheHorde]

it’s November ; relax . This is when you learn about the team as it is preparing for conference and tournament play. We have significant depth which means their are nights when some players aren’t major contributors but as long as others pick up piece we will be fine ( just need to not have a game where no one plays well - too many negatives in that sentence but you get the point) . What we know 1) point guard situation is a strength 2) lots of wings and we only need two or three to play well 3) Alex and Solo are the main pieces that everything revolves around but they don’t have to dominate ( alex’s 12-9-5 plus blocks good example while solo opens up a lot) 4) reibe way better sooner than expected probably even for coaching staff 5) with a solid seed we will be positioned well going into the second weekend of the tournament 6) 2024 was close to the perfect team don’t expect that but we can still win it all understanding that their will be a couple of 1-2 point games at the 4 minute mark where someone will need to make a play and we got a lot of someones

This team legitimately goes 9 deep

 

[Conndog]

Mullins impressed me even with only scoring 2 points. He seemed quicker on defense than I anticipated, and he was in the mix of the action quite a lot. His shot looks great too. Once he gets going, look out!