If you make a little stretch for Kansas, it’s an all blue blood Final Four. | The Boneyard

If you make a little stretch for Kansas, it’s an all blue blood Final Four.

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The 4 blue bloods are Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and UNC.
Villanova, UConn, MSU and Arizona are in my tier 2 blue bloods.
and the historical honorable mentions are UCLA and Indiana.
 
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Cuse Socks said:
The 4 blue bloods are Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and UNC.
Villanova, UConn, MSU and Arizona are in my tier 2 blue bloods.
and the historical honorable mentions are UCLA and Indiana.
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With that said, Arizona is hanging by a thread with Gonzaga waiting in the wings
 
shizzle787 said:
It might actually pay off to root for Kansas the rest of the way. Their title may be vacated.
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Feel free to cold take me here... but I can almost guarantee that when the Duke/Kansas championship game happens, there's NO WAY the NCAA will let Kansas beat Duke.

You thought Duke got favorable calls throughout the year? Just wait until this final. The NCAA doesn't want to have the title vacated, and they want Coach K to have the fairytale ending. Book it.
 
Cuse Socks said:
The 4 blue bloods are Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and UNC.
Villanova, UConn, MSU and Arizona are in my tier 2 blue bloods.
and the historical honorable mentions are UCLA and Indiana.
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Arizona, MSU? Do titles matter?

Here are your first tier blue bloods of the modern era, 1980 to present, not updated for this years Final Fours, adding to the counts.

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Cuse Socks said:
The 4 blue bloods are Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and UNC.
Villanova, UConn, MSU and Arizona are in my tier 2 blue bloods.
and the historical honorable mentions are UCLA and Indiana.
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What makes Duke a blue blood? Slightly older recent success? Nova is definitely not a blue blood, but our Wildcat friend knows that.

The phrase “blueblood” is the Roshack test of college basketball. It means whatever people want it to mean. Old time programs that were good half century ago? Most NCAA championships? Most consistent winning percentage? No one really knows.
 
Zissou said:
Arizona, MSU? Do titles matter?

Here are your first tier blue bloods of the modern era, 1980 to present, not updated for this years Final Fours, adding to the counts.

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I think you’ve made a mistake. According to the NCAA record books Louisville did not win a championship in 2013.
 
CL82 said:
What makes Duke a blue blood? Slightly older recent success? Nova is definitely not a blue blood, but our Wildcat friend knows that.

The phrase “blueblood” is the Roshack test of college basketball. It means whatever people want it to mean. Old time programs that were good half century ago? Most NCAA championships? Most consistent winning percentage? No one really knows.
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That’s why it’s an interesting discussion topic.

UConn is a blue blood in my book simply for winning 4 titles in 5 tries in the modern era. Duke is almost universally considered a blue blood, but also only had title success in the modern era, all under K.

Arizona only has 1 title! Not in the same tier as UConn (or Nova).
 
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Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, UCLA, and UNC have at least 16 final fours each.

Nobody else has more than 10. It's a real clear delineator. Those 5 have had the most total, the most consistent, and the longest success. Plus they're all blue uniforms.

Duke, UNC, and Kansas have each made a Final Four in every single decade since the 1960's, including the 2020's. 7 straight decades with at least 1 FF for each. Kentucky missed the '00s and hasn't gotten '20s yet, but made 4 in the decade in-between. UCLA missed the '10s and technically their 1 in the '80s was vacated, but they have the 2nid most in total.

Nova, for comparison, has 6 FF total. 10 less than all of the above. 4 since 2009 makes them a New Blood, not a Blue Blood.
 
CL82 said:
What makes Duke a blue blood? Slightly older recent success? Nova is definitely not a blue blood, but our Wildcat friend knows that.

The phrase “blueblood” is the Roshack test of college basketball. It means whatever people want it to mean. Old time programs that were good half century ago? Most NCAA championships? Most consistent winning percentage? No one really knows.
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Honestly, "blue blood" clearly relates to, as the dictionary says "membership in a noble or socially prominent family". As applied to basketball, it's not primarily about championships, it's about history. It's "old money" rather than "new money". Villanova is new money. UConn is, to some extent, new money (with some decent history). Kentucky, Kansas, UCLA, Duke and North Carolina are old money that have remained relevant. Indiana is old money trying to become relevant again.

Does it matter? No. Just as being royalty isn't as useful as being Elon Musk. This is the era of kids making money from their Instagram profile. Ancient history isn't moving the needle although it may help those few that have managed to remain relevant. Look at football, Nebraska is a "blue blood" but that isn't winning them recruits or games anymore. UConn needs to worry about UConn. Whoever wins these next 3 games won't make any difference.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Honestly, "blue blood" clearly relates to, as the dictionary says "membership in a noble or socially prominent family". As applied to basketball, it's not primarily about championships, it's about history. It's "old money" rather than "new money". Villanova is new money. UConn is, to some extent, new money (with some decent history). Kentucky, Kansas, UCLA, Duke and North Carolina are old money that have remained relevant. Indiana is old money trying to become relevant again.

Does it matter? No. Just as being royalty isn't as useful as being Elon Musk. This is the era of kids making money from their Instagram profile. Ancient history isn't moving the needle although it may help those few that have managed to remain relevant. Look at football, Nebraska is a "blue blood" but that isn't winning them recruits or games anymore. UConn needs to worry about UConn. Whoever wins these next 3 games won't make any difference.
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Don’t disagree, except when you add Duke to the blueblood list using your definition. Their first Natty was in 1991.
 
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