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The prep/HS talent in the Northeast has rarely been better. Lots of great great prospects. The sport isn't dying- its that the Big East is a house of cards.

May I ask where are those players going?
 
How can our college administrators be so shortsighted and sell their soul for short term gains, and long term losses. duck* duck* duck*

Ask Pittsburgh.
Ask Providence.
Ask Syracuse.


Those three are the problem trio.
 
Its not about winning it all. Its about have teams late in the tournament every year.
Huh?? Since 1999, we've done this...
Champs - 1999, 2004, 2011, 2014
Final Four - 1999, 2004, 2009, 2011, 2014
Elite Eight - 1999, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2014
Sweet Sixteen - 1999, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2014
 
Yeah. We not even in the tourney right now.

Our Region is getting picked apart just like College football in the Northeast was killed.

Its only a matter of years before people stop watching college basketball in the Northeast and the rest is history. Sad Sad Sad
Dear lord.
 
Dude, I said this a thousand times before. Connecticut alone is not enough to make the region watch College basketball. You need at least 5-6 teams playing each other every year that are on the running for the championship. For example: Syracuse, Connecticut, Providence, Villanova and any other team (st. john's, GT, Temple). That will keep people interested. Who the ** wants to watch a Kentucky team or a team from the Midwest every day on TV... a team you can't relate and you can't watch live even if you wanted to...

The breakup of the Big East is gonna have a more long lasting impact on the region than many of us think
Okay, but there is nothing Uconn can do about the NE region sucking. I agree it is pretty bad right now.
 
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It's sad that such a great conference was blown up because the Catholic basketball oriented schools wouldn't budge to add football members.
 
Huh?? Since 1999, we've done this...
Champs - 1999, 2004, 2011, 2014
Final Four - 1999, 2004, 2009, 2011, 2014
Elite Eight - 1999, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2014
Sweet Sixteen - 1999, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2014

bro. you are living in the past. we are talking about now and the future of CBB in the northeast
 
The Pac 12, Big 12 and ACC have a stranglehold on the glitz factor. It's going to be tough to overcome.
 
Okay, but there is nothing Uconn can do about the NE region sucking. I agree it is pretty bad right now.

I Agree. I'm not blaming UConn at all. Connecticut is more like a victim in all of this movement.

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For those folks that are old enough:

How strong was college basketball in the Northeast prior to the creation of the Big East in the 80s? Did people watch it? Did it have a mainstream following?
 
The past!!! It was motherf***ing last year. Literally 12 months ago.

Yeah but unfortunately. ESPN and the Power-5 are quick to make people forget that. Its crazy how on a yearly basis they re-write which conference is the most powerful, which one gets the most bids... things move very quickly in the CBB landscape. Everyone is quick to point out that conference is weak, this conference is strong, this conference is the best... etc.
 
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bro. you are living in the past. we are talking about now and the future of CBB in the northeast

No bro you are living in the past, so some NE teams lost, that was soooo yesterday (or earlier today). Get over it already.
 
No bro you are living in the past, so some NE teams lost, that was soooo yesterday (or earlier today). Get over it already.

I hope this is just and off year and that the Northeast bounces back next year. It would be sad to see this happen more often
 
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Pitt and Cuse made their move to protect football. Football is always going to be the first priority with them. The hybrid model was going to fail eventually. UConn recognized that, which is why they moved up in football. The BE was shortsighted not to add Penn State during the 80's. It was Penn St. going to the Big 10 that destabilized everything. With Penn St. in the fold, it would have been easy to start the football league. No league with PSU in it was ever going to be marginalized. You would have added the rest of the eastern football schools (WVU, Rutgers, etc), and maybe a school or two from bordering regions. None of the core schools would have ever left.
 
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Why complain now? BC, PC, StJ, Hall, Pitt haven't done anything for decades.

Gtown has been to 1 F4 in 28 years!

This is the first time in years not a single team from the Northeast makes it to the second weekend of the tournament. again, is not necessarily about winning titles. Its about having multiple teams from the region go deep into the tournament (Sweet 16, Elite 8, F4)... Teams that get a lot of press time and TV airtime when it matters the most to keep our top HS players at home. This is what gets me worried. Our region has a lot of great talent rising, yet they are not staying at home. it sucks
 
Pitt and Cuse made their move to protect football. Football is always going to be the first priority with them. The hybrid model was going to fail eventually. UConn recognized that, which is why they moved up in football. The BE was shortsighted not to add Penn State during the 80's. It was Penn St. going to the Big 10 that destabilized everything. With Penn St. in the fold, it would have been easy to start the football league. No league with PSU in it was ever going to be marginalized. You would have added the rest of the eastern football schools (WVU, Rutgers, etc), and maybe a school or two from bordering regions. None of the core schools would have ever left.
How in the same post can you say the hybrid model was never going to work and then the Big East with Penn St even though they had a bunch of catholic schools with no football, making it a hybrid model, would have been fine?
 
I don't know the solution because I always look at things through a basketball prism. But if football has to get stronger in our conference then so be it, our league teams are in football rich zones. Not all of the power 5 conference football teams are good. But as far as basketball goes right now they have a stranglehold on the good TV time and that affects our potential recruits. They know what's on and when as far as marquee matchups and they want exposure. Even crap ACC teams play he high visibility ones.
 
With this situation. Soon you are going to see Connecticut have to travel thousand of miles in their OOC to play teams that are considered legit enough to boost RPIs and credibility. This is what I been talking all along. We can hate all the Northeast programs because they are our rivals... but overall we need the region to succeed. Do you we really wanna be forced to play games across the country in the OOC season. Teams that you can't relate to, teams that generate no interest back home? teams that have no history against us? teams that don't draw TV ratings in the Northeast. Teams that you can't hop on your car and drive 2-8 hours to watch your team play at their home

Maybe I'm exaggerating. But I do feel the worst is yet to come. Not only for Connecticut... but for everyone.

these sanctions on Syracuse only make it worst (as much as I hate them)
 
With this situation. Soon you are going to see Connecticut have to travel thousand of miles in their OOC to play teams that are considered legit enough to boost RPIs and credibility. This is what I been talking all along. We can hate all the Northeast programs because they are our rivals... but overall we need the region to succeed. Do you we really wanna be forced to play games across the country in the OOC season. Teams that you can't relate to, teams that generate no interest back home? teams that have no history against us? teams that don't draw TV ratings in the Northeast. Teams that you can't hop on your car and drive 2-8 hours to watch your team play at their home

Maybe I'm exaggerating. But I do feel the worst is yet to come. Not only for Connecticut... but for everyone.

these sanctions on Syracuse only make it worst (as much as I hate them)

I'd rather play strong teams in our region as opposed to having home and home contracts with Texas and Stanford. We need other programs to step up.
 
Dude, I said this a thousand times before. Connecticut alone is not enough to make the region watch College basketball. You need at least 5-6 teams playing each other every year that are on the running for the championship. For example: Syracuse, Connecticut, Providence, Villanova and any other team (st. john's, GT, Temple). That will keep people interested. Who the ** wants to watch a Kentucky team or a team from the Midwest every day on TV... a team you can't relate and you can't watch live even if you wanted to...

The breakup of the Big East is gonna have a more long lasting impact on the region than many of us think
I think you're the first Ignore of the post-season. You keep saying the same thing.
 
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I think you're the first Ignore of the post-season. You keep saying the same thing.

Yes I'm saying the same thing. I'm glad you realized. I'm saying the same thing because I'm worried about it. It seems like no one else truly cares.
 
How in the same post can you say the hybrid model was never going to work and then the Big East with Penn St even though they had a bunch of catholic schools with no football, making it a hybrid model, would have been fine?
Penn State is the difference. Even though they stink at hoops, they were the big dog among eastern schools. They would have solidified the league. Without Penn St., the football schools got no respect. This is why they went out and got Miami. Unfortunately, because Miami was such an outlier, they always had their eye on the door.
 
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